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Le Roi Est Mort, Vive Le Roi! | 140 comments (140 topical, editorial, 0 hidden)

Re: You appear (4.00 / 4)

And lastly, you can usually do better by just saying, "I'm for goddamn small class sizes, America's children deserve it."

Plain talk can be the best framing. [Ducks head]

No really. The above is a statement of values that does not employ Republican-leaning words like "school choice" or "performance accountability," etc. It's the kind of thing Howard Dean tosses out, usually after having used several lovingly crafted framing sentences, and it's why I will still do anything the Governor asks me to.

So obviously we're converging on a common ground, which is always good. I do see your point that framing can be used to hide details of what ideally should be an open policy debate that does not hide the tradeoffs or negative aspects of our position.

I guess I do see what you hope for--a renewal of civic debate and honest, open issue debate by candidates--as unrealistic and naive. We hear entire speeches that never mention details. Even some of our better leaders hurt us regularly by reinforcing Republican ways of thinking. I think framing provides a realization of the power of words that many Democratic politicians lack.

But your argument is persuasive. Dean's plain and honest policy talk made him a hero well before he or I had read Lakoff, and somehow actively framing things became very natural for him. And he does it in a way that I don't think leads to any of the intellectual dishonesty you see. Framing is a tool that can be used well or poorly, but we need it in our toolbox.

Angie and Bill: Colorado's bright future!

by ubikkibu on Tue Oct 18th, 2005 at 12:54:55 PM EST
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Re: You appear (4.00 / 4)

The GOP spends about 200 million dollars a year in just "framing" their lies... and people believe them.

Let's beat the Republicans by by electing our own... Republicans.

by Parker on Tue Oct 18th, 2005 at 12:58:22 PM EST
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It may (4.00 / 4)

come as a shock to a lot of people, although I've made it clear before...but

I could never stand Howard Dean. I didn't like the way he talked, or his facial expressions, or his gestures, and I found him utterly unpersuasive even when I agreed with him.

The only thing I found appealing was when he dropped his comments about gunracks, his incredibly bad timing and tone-deaf downers (like poo-pooing the capture of Saddam the same day he was captured), and just called Bush a crook and a liar.

I said, "Hark, what did I hear? Did he just call the President a lying fraud?" That's my man Howie.

In other words, his frank talk was his appeal, at least to me, but his lack of political skills meant that his frank talk, and inappropriate pep-rallies were as much of a downside as an upside.

I'll make it up to you Deaniacs. I promise.

by BooMan on Tue Oct 18th, 2005 at 01:04:10 PM EST
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Re: It may (4.00 / 7)

Well most Dean supporters got beyond the superficial and recognized that Dean was the best candidate to lead the country.

Let's beat the Republicans by by electing our own... Republicans.

by Parker on Tue Oct 18th, 2005 at 01:35:22 PM EST
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Re: It may (4.00 / 6)

It was the Republican "framing" of Dean that killed his chances. It was done so well, the dems bought it. Just look at the Dean "scream" frame. Framing, imho, is not a bad word it is just how it is used. Take any issue and put it into its best light by framing it properly. Framing is a marketing tool. Let's use it to our advantage. You don't have to lie in order to frame something. Jeez, they even called the folks that wrote the Constitution "Framers".

Frodo failed...Bush has got the ring.

by alohaleezy on Tue Oct 18th, 2005 at 02:20:32 PM EST
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Let the atonement begin. (4.00 / 8)

First impressions are hard to break.

I loved Howard from the moment I heard him yelling "What I Want to Know." He's the guy we told...ordered, actually...to bring a bat on stage for his next appearance. A bunch of bloggers posting just like this, and a few hours later, here's Howard swinging the bat at his next stage appearance.

Now that is people power.

"Inappropriate pep rallies?" I'm not sure what you're referring to, but I guaran-damn-tee you BooMan Tribune would be a ghost town without the energy Howard catalyzed.

I disagree strongly with several of Howard's issue positions. But he has arrived at them honestly, through thought and debate and compromise. I ask for nothing more.

Angie and Bill: Colorado's bright future!

by ubikkibu on Tue Oct 18th, 2005 at 01:44:57 PM EST
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Re: It may (4.00 / 4)

LOL. In any case I eshew the term "Deaniac". It always was pejorative, esp when used by the press... despite the fact supporters embraced it...

One question, if I may, who did you support in the primary (that crowded horse race) and why.

Sorry, if you wanna swipe one guy (tho he led in spectacular fashion for a while and now is DNC Chair, an interesting trajectory) then, please, state who got your vote.

So,
-who did yuo support early on? And
-who did you vote for in the PA primary?

(I was Dean from July 2002 and voted for him March 2 in CA)

by Marisacat (Marisacat@aol.com) on Tue Oct 18th, 2005 at 03:17:39 PM EST
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