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Greensooner: "The one area in which I might disagree involves kos and the DLC.  I say "might" because you're not clear on what you think kos's objections to the DLC are"

I don't know what his objections ARE. I know what they WERE. The DLC insisted that opposing the war was a losing political strategy, that it was folly to oppose a 'popular war-time President' and that opposing the war resolution in 2002 or supporting Dean or even Clark in 2003-2004 was a one way track to 49 state electoral blowout. Well the Party by and large went along in big numbers and managed to pull out two losses in a row anyway. The second one narrowly and during which a lot of people were just waiting for a Murtha moment. Whereupon a bunch of DLC'ers insisted that the proper political course was to embrace overt (and exclusive) religiousity and rally around 'stay the course'. That just because a certain group of generally pro-military but staunchly anti-Iraq war folk were fully vindicated on the facts about minor things like WMD and the necessary force levels needed to successfully occupy Iraq (Shinseki was right, we didn't have them) doesn't mean that they had any obligation to listen to us, or even grant us credit for being right. Well in the immortal words of Kos "screw'em"

As for only 70 Dems being willing to vote for Murtha's original resolution, well the last couple have days have been a political eternity. A lot of people ducked and found that not only weren't people swinging they were actually applauding. I am not talking Profiles in Courage here, but the dialogue on the Democratic side shifted dramatically in the two days post Murtha.

Paradox "I vividly remember reading Soto and Billmon as regular commenters." Quite the irony there. Because I missed that first great way altogether. My first tentative step on the dKos stage was just after Steve and Billmon left to establish their own places. I visited, and then after the hiatus continue to visit the Whiskey Bar, but for me their only real association with dKos is their presense in the Alumni blogroll. But it highlights a point I made on some other thread on this topic: except for a handful of veterans like Paradox there was a dKos before you. I remember what was probably a fourth wave ranter who demanded to know where dKos was before the war. He clearly had no idea that the center of anti-war speech in the blogosphere was pretty much right there. I suggested he was barking up the wrong blog, and in what is an odd coincidence was immediately backed up by Meteor Blades.

(Let me post this, and then unfortunately for some I will be right back)

Social Security: Changes in trustees' projections over time

by Bruce Webb (bruce.webb2@verizon.net) on Sat Nov 26th, 2005 at 01:34:32 PM EST
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Talex, unfortunately I have to admit that you in turn have hit this on the head. dailyKos at one time was a true blog. Pre-Scoop and for a time after Scoop he had his archives posted. A time or two I went back to the beginning. Markos would put up a post. Then a couple of hours later another post. And then he would get a comment, and maybe a comment on a comment. But in the beginning it was a blog like any other blog. And then what he had to say started resonating and with some cross fertilization from Atrios and a couple other places it started to cook. At a time when Bush was in the eighties in approval and you had few other places to go to vent your Buck Fushness this was the place to be. There were other liberal bloggers but for the most part they were getting the WMD piece tragically wrong (which for the most part they are freely admitting today). And then by stages it expanded and then exploded. And at some point during that process Markos stepped back and let it not really be about him at all. As you say it became a money making business which allowed all and sundry to post and vent.

But I have to disagree with you on this one "The problem for Kos is that eventually his original "draw" - serious progressives - is going to get so diluted that advertisers will figure out that there are more productive and less expensive places to spend their as dollars and get more bang for the buck." Advertisers did not come to dKos for "serious progressives", they came here for eyeballs and clicks. They could care less that the real action among progressives has moved elsewhere, they have product to move.

In the world of "Enders Game" you had local and regional discussion groups where skillful writers and debaters would eventually be invited up to higher level and eventually world discussion groups. The model in mind was USENET newsgroups but some of the same principles apply here. dKos has become the minor leagues, a few big players rumble around on the main page, but other than that it is hard to be heard. So people move on to places where they can be heard.

I have been a lot more active on dKos in the last three months. Which translates to 9 posts in November. In the words of Yogi Berra, "no one goes there anymore, it is too crowded".

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by Bruce Webb (bruce.webb2@verizon.net) on Sat Nov 26th, 2005 at 02:12:49 PM EST
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Media Girl "I do not believe for a moment that Kos is a progressive. He's a Democrat. He's quite open about it. And he's openly hostile to many progressive causes, including reproductive rights, environmentalism, election reform and feminism."

I am not sure I agree, I haven't seen the hostility on these issues, but then again I have not been around much.

For me the key issue was always the war and the fundamental will to power that characterizes the Bush Administration. I'll agree that is not the entire Progressive agenda, but every bit of power the Administration has to roll back progress on all sides is the power he is claiming as a War Time President and it was important and remains important to challenge him on his home ground.

Kos is a Democrat, I am a Democrat. Anti-war Democrats and for the longest time the institutional Democratic Party insisted that fighting back against the war meant you were not a true Democrat at all. And so Markos welcomed all that were willing to take on the Republican war machine, and some people jumped on board dKos and helped us turn the tide around and then were shocked to find that Kos was neither a Green nor a Socialist Democrat.

I am saddened that you think that 'progressive' and 'Democrat' are somehow exclusive. I think you are going to see a counter offensive mounted next Spring that will being progressives back on board. I for one have plans but the proof is in the pudding and I don't expect any disillusioned progressives to take anything on faith. Hope to see you then.

Social Security: Changes in trustees' projections over time

by Bruce Webb (bruce.webb2@verizon.net) on Sat Nov 26th, 2005 at 02:29:09 PM EST
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and I'm sad to say that a counteroffensive next spring will not likely change my opinion. It isn't just the progressives who are tired and hungry for substance, it is well over half of the country. We want real change, we want real progress, not new and improved brand image.
by debraz on Sat Nov 26th, 2005 at 05:29:23 PM EST
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Enjoy your time in the wilderness. If you believe that "well over half of the country" shares your views then you have the power to take over either party. Personally I believe that the FDR wing of the Democratic Party can wrest power from the DLC wing. But some people would rather bitch and moan from the sidelines and not recognize the effort it took to move Bush from 90% to 36%. Explain to me exactly how you would implement "real progress" given the real world, how you would package "real change" given the fact that the Republicans currently control both houses of Congress. We need to capture the center to elect Speaker Pelosi and yet true to the entire history of the Left you demand ideological purity.

Peoples' Judean Front vs the Judean Peoples' Front. It is not just a joke from Life of Brian it is a dead on diagnosis of the kind of splinter group manuevering that characterized the Left for most of the last century. FDR welded together southern bigots and northern machine politicians and put through the most progressive policy agenda in history. He even put Wallace on the ticket. And yet the far Left ended up turning on him.

Excuse me for living in the real world. And by the way Embrace your Inner FDR.

Social Security: Changes in trustees' projections over time

by Bruce Webb (bruce.webb2@verizon.net) on Sun Nov 27th, 2005 at 05:59:48 AM EST
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Excuse me for living in the real world. And by the way Embrace your Inner FDR.

Why is it that the party centrists - and I don't mean the vast center of America - I mean a subset of a subset, the Democratic Party centrists - label progress as out of touch with reality? And then you go on to claim responsibility for Bush's plummeting polls to boot?

The fact that you want real change "packaged" speaks for itself. The fact that you link real change with "ideological purity" sticks a fork in it. Progress means progress for America, the real America, not demographic subsets of subsets, or tales told by idiots, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.

Progress:

  • Education: invest in the next generation instead of outsourcing education to the unaccountable "faith based" and private sector while dumping millions off the NCLB rolls
  • Energy Independence: alternative, renewable energy sources
  • Environment: responsible stewardship, real capitalism, not govt. granted corporate liability shields and taxpayer funded pollution
  • Fighting Corruption, no matter which political party
  • Financial Equality: Roll back the draconian personal bankruptcy bill and end the tax-payer subsidized "bankruptcy" for corporations, roll back the tax cuts for the richest at the expense of basic services and infrastructure
  • Fiscal Responsibility: restore pay as you go, restore  open bidding for gov't. contracts, gut pork, end the corporate liability shields and offshore tax havens
  • Foreign Policy: restore the definitions of both the words "foreign" and "policy". The word "sane" should be a given
  • National Security: let's actually have some instead of spending billions on scaring the daylights out of us and doing dick here, while spending billions more under the guise of "fighting them over there".
  • Preemptive War:  see Foreign policy and Rule of Law.
  • Rule of Law: The Bill of Rights, the Constitution, treaties are operative - under any and all circumstances.
  • Transparent Government: verifiable voting, open source, open debate, open access, close the gov-to-lobbyist revolving door.
  • Wages: enforce existing labor laws without the "help" of corporate cronies like Wal-Mart
  • Work: "Free" trade policies are killing entrepreneurial America, eroding the tax base and gutting innovation. Put the American worker on a level playing field by ending tax incentives and corporate subsidies for outsourcing American industry and jobs.
by debraz on Sun Nov 27th, 2005 at 10:00:24 AM EST
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He banned many progressives outright. He doesn't want us on board.  We are hippies, women's studies nuts and conspiracy theorists to him.

He probably banned me out of ignorance.  I recommended a diary that pointed out that some conspiracies have turned out to be real, like the Standard Oil conspiracy that created the Sherman Antitrust Act.  He banned me as one of the conspiracy theorists.  He banned me a second time for giving a one to a front page poster, who fucking deserved a one..  I don't give a crap about him anymore and I prefer Booman.

Armando admits Kos is a conservative Dem, and not a progressive.

 Kos burnt his own bridges.

Stray Roots Message Board,Thus far unmoderated! Dameocrat Blog

by StrayRoots (dameocrat@STUFFTOREMOVEpeacemail.com) on Sat Nov 26th, 2005 at 06:00:51 PM EST
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Maybe it is a whole different world over there. But in my experience people who claimed they were 'banned' by Kos personally generally were just having their comments hidden by the community for being content free.

Blogs are private property, you are a guest. If you want to express yourself freely get your own free blog. The people at Democratic Underground tap into this best with their Hate Mailbag. Wingnuts for years have come on and complained about being deleted. To which the DU says "fuck you, what part of DEMOCRATIC Underground didn't you understand" I have weeks and weeks of outraged wingnuttery to catch up on. But some people here might want to consider what distinguishes them from these wingers:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/mail/index.html

Social Security: Changes in trustees' projections over time

by Bruce Webb (bruce.webb2@verizon.net) on Sun Nov 27th, 2005 at 06:10:17 AM EST
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Well that isn't true in my case.  You can look up my record as Dameocrat and Noalterntive.  I had very few comments hidden, and they in no way contributed to my banning.  I was banned because of Kos's attack on conspiracy theorists and for giving ones to dhinmi.  

No other reasons.

I don't like the guy and I don't have to, I shouldn't be expected too either. I don't think I owe him anything.

Stray Roots Message Board,Thus far unmoderated! Dameocrat Blog

by StrayRoots (dameocrat@STUFFTOREMOVEpeacemail.com) on Sun Nov 27th, 2005 at 08:44:36 PM EST
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It is really odd to enter this discussion out of context. I don't even know the significance of "pie". Silly me because it must have been the most importantist issue ever for a single person to spend so much time spreading "ones" about to the degree that it brought down the wrath of the Wizard of Kos.

"I sense a disturbance in the Force" "What does it mean Lord Bruceder?" "I am not sure but it smells like pie"

Social Security: Changes in trustees' projections over time

by Bruce Webb (bruce.webb2@verizon.net) on Mon Nov 28th, 2005 at 02:49:03 AM EST
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Or Kos has male pms and blatantly favors frontpagers even when they troll. Needless to say, I won't recommed him.  I think Du sucks too by the way.  They eliminated war protesters left and right after Kerry was nominated that is why "The Dean Underground" was formed.  They also completely  massacred pro palestinian liberals.  Nobody goes there anymore but people who used to be war hawks. They still make a point to kick off peace protesters and marginalize them even though they were the ones who were wrong. We're not on the same page, and probably never will be.  People on this blog are more forward thinking and less scared than duers or kossacks. I won't consent to marginalization and won't recommend my fellow liberals turn a blog that marginalizes me into a successful blog.  

I just find it incredibly funny that you kossacks can't live with it if we thrive on another blog.

Stray Roots Message Board,Thus far unmoderated! Dameocrat Blog

by StrayRoots (dameocrat@STUFFTOREMOVEpeacemail.com) on Mon Nov 28th, 2005 at 03:39:31 AM EST
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feminist, I have my issues with Kos (I'm betting you can guess what those issues are).

I've tried to go cold turkey on the site (particularly after the hairy-legged womens studies major crack) but haven't been successful as of yet.

What strikes me as ironical is that Kos slams the DLC for  clinging to their narrow interpretation of "centrism" (which hasn't brought the party  notable success in over a decade) and yet he seems to be promulgating a slightly different version of the same thing. The major difference is that it is stridently against the invasion of Iraq, and that it is markedly more friendly to labor. But the pro-choice plank in the party's platform, as far as Markos is concerned, can be discarded.

Markos, like the DLC, seems to have inherited a fear of the Left (ie, I feel as if he buys into the stereotype of a leftist fringe where women don't shave their legs, or wear lipstick, and dress like a convention of librarians and/or dykes -- at least, when they're not tearing off their bras and throwing them in flaming garbage cans -- while the men have long hair, scraggly beards, and say things like "peace, dude" in an exceedingly, ah, mellow fashion.

Kos, IMO, wants to remake the public's image of a "grassroots" Democrat into the existing image of a yuppie (the same image that the DLC wants to cultivate) while simultaneously pushing the frame vaguely leftward from where the DLC has mounted it.

In some ways, I get this and can sympathize it. I, often, felt like frothing at the mouth when my extreme opposition to invading Iraq meant people automatically categorized me as anti-war (ie, a peacenik) when, while I don't think war is a "good", I do firmly believe that it is, sometimes, necessary (I was, for example, for the invasion of Afghanistan).

Given that this is the  internet, and none of you can see me, I can loudly declare that I am not absolutist in my anti-war stance, and furthermore inform you that I don't wear peace signs, or beads (and do wear a bra), and am, in fact AM a (relatively) young urban professional who wears business attire on a regular basis. But none of this is provable, and I feel as if, when I assert my pro-choice stance on DailyKos, Kos relegates me (not me personally, perhaps, but the aggregate of others like me) to hair-legged feminists who overthink things and get hysterical at the least provocation.

Which, frankly, is the exact same dynamic that was at work when all of us who opposed invading Iraq were dismissed as peaceniks, ie, we were assigned to an easily dismissible (stereotyped) category, which meant that our arguments could be just as easily dismissed.

by renska ([behrenska] [at] [gmail] [dot] [com]) on Sun Nov 27th, 2005 at 10:00:58 AM EST
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I created my messageboard for people who feel marginalized unjustly by the mainstream blogs and messageboards like DU, and Dailykos. That would include prochoice people, people who believe in two states in Israel and Palestine and actually want the Democratic party to act like it, instead of playing lip service, and people who are against the war.  I won't triangulate you out of the equation like kos, and you are free to bitch about messageboard marginalization on other boards. Invite your friends as well.

Stray Roots Message Board,Thus far unmoderated! Dameocrat Blog
by StrayRoots (dameocrat@STUFFTOREMOVEpeacemail.com) on Sun Nov 27th, 2005 at 09:13:00 PM EST
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Just a brief reply since this thread is days old....

Media Girl "I do not believe for a moment that Kos is a progressive. He's a Democrat. He's quite open about it. And he's openly hostile to many progressive causes, including reproductive rights, environmentalism, election reform and feminism."

I am not sure I agree, I haven't seen the hostility on these issues, but then again I have not been around much.

As you don't even know to what the pie references refer, I'd say your "problem" is that you indeed haven't been around much.

For me the key issue was always the war and the fundamental will to power that characterizes the Bush Administration. I'll agree that is not the entire Progressive agenda, but every bit of power the Administration has to roll back progress on all sides is the power he is claiming as a War Time President and it was important and remains important to challenge him on his home ground.

Progressivism is not defined at all by anti-war views. While I oppose the war, and how he's conducted it, I do not believe that my position on the war is particularly progressive -- just an opinion of an American very concerned about what this idiot leader is doing in the name of our country.

Kos is a Democrat, I am a Democrat.

I ceased being a Democrat in the '80s, when they started to abandon Democratic principles. I think Dukakis' rambling "I am not a liberal!" statements in the debates with Bush the Elder sealed it for me. And while I could appreciate the intelligence and fiscal accomplishments of Clinton, he was destructive to many progressive causes and values, some by bungling, many by design.

I am saddened that you think that 'progressive' and 'Democrat' are somehow exclusive.

I am saddened, too. But I blame the Democrats for thinking that we'll just vote for them because they're Democrats, instead of voting our interests. We voted Democrat because, once upon a time, they were the party that did mostly represent our interests. But since the Republicans went batshit crazy in their neo-fascist "revolution" it seems the Democrats have felt they don't need to represent progressive or liberal values any more.

I think you are going to see a counter offensive mounted next Spring that will being progressives back on board.

Not of the likes of Chuck Schumer have anything to say about it. They want to pander more to the radical right. It's all gangbanger politics, fighting for territory to them, and to hell with the values or issues.

I will never ever vote party line just to vote party line ever again. I vote for people. Often they happen to be Democrats. But with the Democratic Party pushing ever rightward, while the Republicans are starting to run scared from their wingnutty social conservative special interests, I think the question of which party ends up being more progressive is looking less and less certain these days.

media girl

by media girl on Mon Nov 28th, 2005 at 11:35:12 AM EST
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