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Man Eegee is a Stud-like Hoss | 53 comments (53 topical, editorial, 0 hidden)

Re: Man Eegee is a Stud-like Hoss (4.00 / 4)

What an excellent job.
I had the same problems as CabinGirl with most of the links.

I have only one minor suggestion for the write-up:
In the section for Recommended Diaries it is stated that diaries with the most recos end up there (which obviously is correct), but for completeness, maybe also mention that the mojo of the diary diminishes with time - causing the diary to eventually drop off the list.

by ask on Fri May 6th, 2005 at 10:13:15 AM EST

Re: Man Eegee is a Stud-like Hoss (4.00 / 4)

Yes, if I remember correctly, a diary loses a quarter of it's mojo ever 8 hours. So, after 32 hours, you lose all your mojo from a given recommend. Also, if you recommend, unrecommend, and recommend again, it will not defeat the system.

by BooMan on Fri May 6th, 2005 at 10:27:37 AM EST
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Re: Man Eegee is a Stud-like Hoss (none / 0)

Should we add that, after a diary has been up on the Rec lists for a couple days, it's nice -- I think -- to Unrecommend a few of the diaries so that other, new diaries have a chance to climb up?

(I originally got the Unrecommend idea from a diary that MaryScott posted at Kos, and it seemed like a neat way to get more people's diaries on the Rec list.)

Hickok: "You know the sound of thunder. Can you imagine that sound if I ask you to? Ma'am, listen to the thunder."

by susanhu (susanhuatearthlinkdotnet) on Fri May 6th, 2005 at 10:25:21 AM EST
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Re: Man Eegee is a Stud-like Hoss (4.00 / 3)

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Please, no tactical mind games!

Let your heart speak by recommending while you read and when a decision is made. The feature unrecommend should be used for diaries gone wayward in discussion phase.

BooMan's algorithm should take care of the length in time and decay, for the recommended diary to stay up!

The number of recommendations is like a Tip Jar, stays with the diary as expression of reader's appreciation.

Daily Kos is flexible and recently changed their criteria. One difference is, at dKos you can Unrecommend but blocks a chance to Recommend again. Method of false play. At dKos after a period of time the diary is up, the recommend, rating and comment feature is disabled.

System should be fair, honest and straightforward.

Oui - Liberté - Egalité - Fraternité

by Oui on Fri May 6th, 2005 at 10:58:24 AM EST
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One other reason for unrecommending (none / 1)

If a diary has outlived its usefulness, it should be unrecommended to make room for others. Example: If a live debate on the floor of Congress is being covered by C-SPAN and a diary has been posted to comment on the debate in real-time, sometimes the diary will become unwieldy. In such cases it's common to start a new diary, titled "Debate Part II" or something similar. When this happens, if the original diary is on the recommended list it's good etiquette to unrecommend the original diary to make room for the followup. I don't know if this has ever happened here but it happens on other sites all the time (no names, koff koff) and we should be prepared for the eventuality.

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Our Man In Redmond is now Omir the Storyteller

by Our Man in Redmond (omir.the.storyteller -DORT- gmail -ART- com) on Fri May 6th, 2005 at 03:11:20 PM EST
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Re: One other reason for unrecommending (4.00 / 2)

My gut feeling for the Newbie Guide is that we shouldn't get too specific regarding Recommends/Unrecommends. I'd rather leave it simple and if a diary author specifically asks for Unrecommends, then we go from there. Thoughts?

Latino Político | "We are condemned to kill time, thus we die bit by bit." - Octavio Paz

by Man Eegee (man.eegee at gmail.com) on Fri May 6th, 2005 at 03:24:26 PM EST
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Good point (none / 1)

Sorry, I got carried away. :) But maybe that should go into the FAQ, Booman.

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Our Man In Redmond is now Omir the Storyteller

by Our Man in Redmond (omir.the.storyteller -DORT- gmail -ART- com) on Fri May 6th, 2005 at 03:43:05 PM EST
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Re: Man Eegee is a Stud-like Hoss (none / 0)

I wasn't proposing a game. I was proposing a way to make room for more diaries to make the recommended list. And Booman will watch out for such things, but it's okay to unrecommend a diary that's been up for two-plus days to make room for more.

Hickok: "You know the sound of thunder. Can you imagine that sound if I ask you to? Ma'am, listen to the thunder."

by susanhu (susanhuatearthlinkdotnet) on Fri May 6th, 2005 at 04:20:57 PM EST
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A game is a damn fine idea (none / 1)

we should have our own BooTrib drinking game...

Each time BooMan or a Boo'per says Frog-marched you have to drink... okay, nevermind, I'd turn into an alcoholic in a matter of days... ;)

Great user guide Man Eegee!

by spiderleaf (spiderleaf at gmail dot com) on Fri May 6th, 2005 at 04:47:58 PM EST
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Re: A game is a damn fine idea (none / 0)

Alcohol poisoning! We almost all expired the night I foolishly proposed we drink everytime someone said f--k on Deadwood.

Hickok: "You know the sound of thunder. Can you imagine that sound if I ask you to? Ma'am, listen to the thunder."

by susanhu (susanhuatearthlinkdotnet) on Fri May 6th, 2005 at 05:24:03 PM EST
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Re: A game is a damn fine idea (none / 0)

Good point Susan! I wrote that last night then went out to play pool with the hubby at a local bar... it was a stressful week so we decided to (ahem) drink a lot. It's now 3:30 on the east coast and we finally made it out of bed an hour ago.

Which totally messed up our plans for enjoying this lovely spring day by going bike riding... tonight I drink tea, write and try to recover!

by spiderleaf (spiderleaf at gmail dot com) on Sat May 7th, 2005 at 12:34:20 PM EST
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Recos = mojo? (none / 0)

Do recommends affect a user's mojo? Or only comment ratings?
If recos do, then it may be unfair to unrecommend simply to free up space (there may be other valid reasons)?

by ask on Sat May 7th, 2005 at 06:36:18 AM EST
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Re: Recos = mojo? (none / 0)

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In special circumstances mentioned by Omir and MaryScott, when author has a new follow-up diary, he could request to UNRECOMMEND.

Not fair for other reasons beyond author's request.

The only instance I got a troll rating at dKos was at my own request, to hide a thread in the PropaGannon investigation not meant for lurkers to read.

Recently on World Diaries Recom list, due to lack of other authors, there was a moment when four of my diaries were still listed. Trick I used, was to make sure when World authors showed up with a new diary, they got a RECOMMEND hit from me and problem was solved.

Oui - Liberté - Egalité - Fraternité

by Oui on Sat May 7th, 2005 at 07:10:58 AM EST
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Man Eegee is a Stud-like Hoss | 53 comments (53 topical, 0 editorial, 0 hidden)

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