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Mind Control: Military Blocks Juan Cole's Site | 23 comments (23 topical, editorial, 0 hidden)

Re: Mind Control: Military Blocks Juan Cole's Site (4.00 / 3)

I haven't found the quote by an FBI official to which Pat Lang refers. (He didn't link it.) I'll see if I can ask him directly.

Then there's more of this:

A quote from today's WaPo piece by Cohen that Pat Lang refers to:

... But a pundit should not recommend a policy without adequate regard for the ability of those in charge to execute it, and here I stumbled. I could not imagine, for example, that the civilian and military high command would treat "Phase IV" -- the post-combat period that has killed far more Americans than the "real" war -- as of secondary importance to the planning of Gen. Tommy Franks's blitzkrieg. I never dreamed that Ambassador Paul Bremer and Gen. Ricardo Sanchez, the two top civilian and military leaders early in the occupation of Iraq -- brave, honorable and committed though they were -- would be so unsuited for their tasks, and that they would serve their full length of duty nonetheless. I did not expect that we would begin the occupation with cockamamie schemes of creating an immobile Iraqi army to defend the country's borders rather than maintain internal order, or that the under-planned, under-prepared and in some respects mis-manned Coalition Provisional Authority would seek to rebuild Iraq with big construction contracts awarded under federal acquisition regulations, rather than with small grants aimed at getting angry, bewildered young Iraqi men off the streets and into jobs.

I did not know, but I might have guessed.

Hickok: "You know the sound of thunder. Can you imagine that sound if I ask you to? Ma'am, listen to the thunder."

by susanhu (susanhuatearthlinkdotnet) on Sun Jul 10th, 2005 at 10:05:29 AM EST

Re: Mind Control: Military Blocks Juan Cole's Site (4.00 / 2)

The abundance of willful ignorance and the complete lack of serious thought are at the core of how fucked up the Iraq situation has been allowed to become.
godDAMNit!

by lp (mooshter@aol.com) on Sun Jul 10th, 2005 at 10:43:20 AM EST
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Re: Mind Control: Military Blocks Juan Cole's Site (none / 1)

So, do they think blocking Cole's site will cover up the massive ineptitude and lack of foresight that comes from the top down in the Iraq folly?

Why do these folks always remind me of the tailors in the story of The Emperor's New Clothes?

"Life is always better with clean pants."

by CabinGirl on Sun Jul 10th, 2005 at 10:20:02 AM EST
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It may help in a small way (none / 0)

to preserve the mindset of those who are still hypnotic under the spell of their military indoctrination. For those who may be questioning the programming it helps to make them feel isolated and "wrong" and condemned in a way so that they will keep their mouths shut around the others. It is rough being at Rucker right now. Most of the soldiers here haven't seen Iraq, my husband is almost treated to some sort of celebrity as someone who has been to Iraq and man do they seem like they are chunks of walking toast to me somedays. All the T.V.s at the hospital facility are tuned to FOX News with big signs on them forbidding anybody from turning the channel ever!! WELCOME TO THE GRINDER! It is a mindset as much as Al Qaeda is to me anymore, it also shares a funny thing in common with Al Qaeda programming. If a soldier defies his own natural tendencies to preserve himself and seek a peaceful way to resolve all of this and he is killed while defying his human tendencies.....he is a hero. Whether it is 40 virgins or being placed on a HUGE ENORMOUS PEDASTAL OF AMERICAN DIETY OF PATRIOTISM it is still all the same old crapola to me. The key is to never see anybody other than your group as other human beings or worthy of your consideration, they must be seen as less than to be able to accept that they need your help and to accept their daily collateral deaths as necessary unpleasantness. The second key is that your groups survival is what is important and your own survival is of no consequence....if that starts to bother you remember that if you are killed you will be the biggest hero you could ever hope to be if you are killed. If one started thinking or feeling for ones self others around may start to do it also and begin to allow the "enemy" to do it and the war machine breaks down.

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by Militarytracy on Sun Jul 10th, 2005 at 03:56:15 PM EST
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Re: It may help in a small way (none / 0)

This pains me to hear -- the hospital facility forces FOX news down their throats? Is it like this everywhere? What are the people in the surrounding town like?

I want something else, to get me through this, semi-charmed kinda life..
Third Eye Blind

by brinnainne on Mon Jul 11th, 2005 at 09:59:30 AM EST
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I read Cohen's terrible op-ed. (none / 0)

His neocon-centric perspectives are appalling in every respect.

In response, I sent this LTE to WaPo.

Reading Eliot Cohen's disturbing commentary, I am reminded of the gratitude I feel for my own father, (a military man),; someone who understood that when one's child goes off to war, it's an occassion for lamentation and true regret, not a time for pride and ideological self-certainty.
I feel sorry for Mr. Cohen's child, as I would for the child of anyone who seemed more interested in reinforcing his own rational for a war he pushed so vigorously than he does in truly questioning the wisdom of initiating that conflict in the first place.
Godspeed to the child; shame on the father.

Denial is our most dangerous adversary.

by sbj on Sun Jul 10th, 2005 at 11:23:19 AM EST
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Re: Mind Control: Military Blocks Juan Cole's Site (none / 0)

Susan, how have they blocked mr. Coles site? I have just returned from his site an dhe is still online. It seems to be current, as well.

by BrendaStewart (stormyweather1@hotmail.com) on Sun Jul 10th, 2005 at 11:49:56 AM EST
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Re: Mind Control: Military Blocks Juan Cole's Site (none / 0)

Just military ISPs, apparently. I hope Pat Lang does some more hunting on this ... he has the contacts to do so. And I expect that Juan Cole may comment on this (I sent Prof. Cole the story).

Hickok: "You know the sound of thunder. Can you imagine that sound if I ask you to? Ma'am, listen to the thunder."

by susanhu (susanhuatearthlinkdotnet) on Sun Jul 10th, 2005 at 12:16:49 PM EST
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Re: Mind Control: Military Blocks Juan Cole's Site (none / 0)

good then, I would hate to not have his site up and running for I so enjoy reading on it. Thanks

by BrendaStewart (stormyweather1@hotmail.com) on Sun Jul 10th, 2005 at 03:19:21 PM EST
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