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Reality and Non-Reality | 60 comments (60 topical, editorial, 0 hidden)

Agnostic (4.00 / 7)

means "not-knowing" or "lacking wisdom or knowledge".

In this sense, I am agnostic.

However, if I had to bet money, I'd bet that this attack was carried out by muslim terrorists.

The fact that we don't yet have any leads indicates to me that this operation was not done to maintain war support. I think we would have provided patsies, most likely a flat where several radical muslims live and traces of the explosives.

Or we would be blaming some state-sponsor that we want to intimidate.

I also have a hard time believing that they would pull the trigger on such an operation. I have no problem believing that a few muslim terrorists would pull the trigger.

by BooMan on Sat Jul 9th, 2005 at 06:23:37 PM EST
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Re: Agnostic (4.00 / 5)

Thanks for that. I really am agnostic because I don't know enough. But your thoughts, especially that if there was some US complicity we would have left traces to someone as a cover, are helpful in leading me away from the "conspiracies." See, thats what happens when you actually talk about it.

Doesn't information itself have a liberal bias? Steven Colbert

by NLinStPaul on Sat Jul 9th, 2005 at 06:38:20 PM EST
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You understand (4.00 / 8)

the problem though, I hope.

If you analyze my logic, you'll see it's circular.

If we had leads indicating that Muslim terrorists did this that would be evidence that Muslim terrorist did not do this.

That is how covert ops are designed. We can't know the truth because there is no logical path to the truth.

by BooMan on Sat Jul 9th, 2005 at 06:44:49 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: You understand (4.00 / 4)

And the fact that you recognize this and are willing to front page it makes you both smarter and more fair than the average blogger.

You can't possibly be intelligent and honest if you're not willing to admit that the world is comprised of countless shades of gray, and that there are rarely any easy answers. I, for one, find it refreshing to see that generally reflected from the top down in this place.

by IndyLib on Sat Jul 9th, 2005 at 07:06:39 PM EST
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Re: You understand (none / 1)

Perfect! I have to say this because that is how I think LOL! Sorry for the enthusiasm, but I like being in the presence of open minds!

"Time is for careful people, not passionate ones."

by roseeriter (roseeriter@yahoo.com) on Sun Jul 10th, 2005 at 06:44:30 AM EST
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Re: Agnostic (4.00 / 3)

Thank you. Perhaps it's been discussed at length somewhere, but this is the first time in recent memory that I've seen someone say 'Why not be agnostic about it?'

In light of the current... er conspiracy kerfuffle, that thought can't be expressed often enough, if for no other reason than trying to maintain community cohesion.

My bad wolf ate my inner child. -Damnit Janet

by zander (zemael at gmail) on Sat Jul 9th, 2005 at 06:49:25 PM EST
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Re: Agnostic (none / 1)

I don't know who did this either, but I would like to note that one day, at the least, after the bombing, Al Zaqarwi was mentioned in relation to the bombing and slo-mo video of him turning his head was shown repeatedly on CNN. (I don't usually watch CNN, but I did for this to hear Amanpour.)

He is, conveniently, Iraqi-identified.

This occurred when support for the Iraqi occupation is at an all time low...and everyone knows all the issues..the DSM, Plame, falling poll numbers, British move from Iraq to Afghan...

The bombs in "ethnic" neighborhood...

And yet, even so, an equal case can be made for the opposite argument.

I think people have been expecting something for so long, this moment sort of equals the squeal of the teapot when the water hits the boiling point. Whoever did it, all rhetoric is heated up, and rational decisions are harder to implement.

by fauxreal on Sun Jul 10th, 2005 at 12:10:54 AM EST
[ Parent ]

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