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Madame Speaker | 9 comments (9 topical, editorial, 0 hidden)

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Somehow it hadn't struck me that she'd be the first female speaker. That would explain the hysteria the GOP is fanning about what an intolerable outrage it would be to see her in charge of the House -- just more code for the usual rightwing hatred of women except as sex objects, servants, and baby makers. I'd been wondering why somebody who has voted far too often with Bush, a committed moderate, would be the object of such rabid attacks. Finally the simple answer: she's a woman.

FDR's response to progressive demands: "I agree. Now go out and make me do it."

by DaveW on Sat Oct 21st, 2006 at 01:27:13 PM EST

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Dave, it really is a little much to describe Pelosi as a committed moderate. I know you think there is no left in this country, but she ranks as the twenty-second most progressive member of the House. In a caucus of 202, she is in the top 10% for most progressive, based on her voting record. And, since she is the minority leader, her votes are not always her own.

She has a 100% voting record on family planning and housing. No matter how you slice it, she is not a committed moderate in her personal votes. How she decides to lead the party may be more accommodating than you would like, but I have to defend her here.

by BooMan on Sat Oct 21st, 2006 at 01:42:41 PM EST
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Boo, I wasn't attacking her, just saying that she's no Conyers or Kennedy or Feingold or Boxer, so the GOP hysteria about her is unexplainable except as fear of a woman being in charge. She voted for the Patriot Act, for example, and for the Iraq budget reauthorization (though, to her great credit, not for the original Iraq war resolution), as examples of what I wouldn't call "progressive" moves.

I don't put much stock in these indexes of left-right voting. Some things matter much more than others. There are more issues in the political universe than abortion rights. I have no problem with her being speaker -- it could be much worse, even with Dems in charge. But she does not stand out as deserving the crown as Number 1 "conservative" nightmare, even though you'd think so if you watch the GOP attack ads.

FDR's response to progressive demands: "I agree. Now go out and make me do it."

by DaveW on Sat Oct 21st, 2006 at 02:21:54 PM EST
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I just wanted to add here that the objection to Pelosi also happens to be she comes from 'San Francisco', in interviews I have seen with Reps. they use that to associate her with gays and they also have tried to tie her to the 'man on boy'(manbia' or something like that) group by virture of the gay pride parade which they say she was standing by a representative of that group. Also SF is seen as extreme liberal..

Click here to step into the Village Blue2

by diane101 (dianed101 @ yahoo.com) on Sat Oct 21st, 2006 at 02:29:05 PM EST
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Yeah, it' North American Man/Boy Love Association and it's all over the internets that Pelosi marched with a NAMBLA leader -- they are pretty repulsive IMHO but the truth is that in San Francisco's 2001 Pride Parade she was 4 floats back from a grand old activist named Harry Hay who had protested when NAMBLA was excluded from the Los Angeles Pride Parade in 1986.

I agree that it's both the women-haters and the San-Francisco-Homosexual haters that are behind this ravenous vilification of Pelosi.

by librarylil on Sat Oct 21st, 2006 at 03:23:36 PM EST
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I noticed that Blackwell of Ohio used this also against his opponent in gov. race in debates the other night asserting his opponent had member of his staff who was a child sex offender, therefore by extension he was guilty. This nambla thing is used often in the reps. rhetoric, especially in recent weeks. When you have nothing else, I guess you will use anything!!!!!
Thanks for giving me the correct initials for the group Lil.

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by diane101 (dianed101 @ yahoo.com) on Sat Oct 21st, 2006 at 03:54:27 PM EST
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I was there when NAMBLA was allowed in the parade and they were booed by the entire community from one end of the parade route to the other.

Doing My Part For The Left

by refinish69 (refinish69 at gmail dot com) on Sat Oct 21st, 2006 at 05:25:20 PM EST
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