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Fall in Line, Sayeth the House Liberal | 23 comments (23 topical, editorial, 0 hidden)

Re: Fall in Line, Sayeth the House Liberal (4.00 / 2)

On some level, the American people are responsible for the type of people that represent them. They are not wholly responsible because of the media messaging and the campaign finance rules.

But, to deny the appeal of conservative ideas and propaganda is just foolish. Countering it effectively is one of our greatest challenges.

by BooMan on Sun Oct 8th, 2006 at 01:06:50 PM EST
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Re: Fall in Line, Sayeth the House Liberal (4.00 / 1)

of course I don't. What I've been arguing all along is that there is a liberal message that people would respond to IF THEY WERE ALLOWED TO HEAR IT. Look at Russ Feingold here in WI, which is pretty much a 50/50 state ... he's very popular BECAUSE HE STANDS UP FOR WHAT HE BELIEVES, and he articulates it. He gets plenty of votes in upstate reddish WI.

The media has removed nearly everyone of the genuine left from the conversation. A few newspaper columns and a failing radio network being slowly strangled to death by the same wimpy centrism killing the party don't count as having a voice.

Keep standing up those straw madmen to knock down ... it's always entertaining.

"Whenever a Voice of Moderation addresses liberals, its sole purpose is to stomp out any real sign of life." - James Wolcott

by Madman in the Marketplace on Sun Oct 8th, 2006 at 01:31:57 PM EST
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Re: Fall in Line, Sayeth the House Liberal (4.00 / 2)

But, to deny the appeal of conservative ideas and propaganda is just foolish. Countering it effectively is one of our greatest challenges.

You cannot appeal to OR counter the republican trash if you do not offer something different than meekly echoing many of their right wing views.

If Democrats were to make a simple issue of asking for a "veto-proof" House and Senate and guarenteed universal health care in return for that clear-cut majority, I guarentee you that there would be a surge in registered voters AND landslide victories for the Dems. (BUT they would have to deliver...)

And the entire country would swing waaaay left in a good way.

But the Dems are unwilling to do this because of the lobbyists that own them. The same lobbyists that make Republicans their Washington pawns. The same lobbyists that keep this country out of the left hemisphere of politics by reenforcing the right wing talking points in both parties.

Just a little modified Chomsky fer yer choppers to chew on...
:) Not that y'all wouldn't know that already.

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by Connecticut Man1 (connecticutman1 AT gmail DOT com) on Sun Oct 8th, 2006 at 05:22:29 PM EST
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Operative phrase, (4.00 / 2)

(BUT they would have to deliver...)

And they haven't--just look at all the crap that Congress approved!! As a result, they have to prove they are different by acting on what they say, not just issuing a press release and rolling over and caving during an actual vote.

"First, they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win." Mahatma Gandhi

by Street Kid on Sun Oct 8th, 2006 at 05:45:12 PM EST
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Re: Fall in Line, Sayeth the House Liberal (4.00 / 3)

But, to deny the appeal of conservative ideas and propaganda is just foolish. Countering it effectively is one of our greatest challenges.

I don't have any trouble effectively countering cultural misogyny at all. What I have trouble with is the fact that you guys do not have our backs at all and neither do your pathetic token women. The folks at DK and TNH don't try to counter and they disparage those who do.

by the other colleen on Mon Oct 9th, 2006 at 12:50:58 AM EST
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Re: Fall in Line, Sayeth the House Liberal (none / 0)

Can I ask what your ideal platform would be to end cultural misogyny?

I'm completely in favor of the separation of Church and State. My idea is that these two institutions screw us up enough on their own. ----- George Carlin

by Poeschek (n_poeschek@yahoo.com) on Mon Oct 9th, 2006 at 01:33:12 PM EST
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Fall in Line, Sayeth the House Liberal | 23 comments (23 topical, 0 editorial, 0 hidden)

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