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Hackett Rumored to be Dropping Senate Bid | 48 comments (48 topical, editorial, 0 hidden)

Re: Hackett Rumored to be Dropping Senate Bid (4.00 / 4)

Hackett doesn't strike me as someone who is likely to backdown and renege on his word...I suspect the rosy scenario of another run against Schmidt may not come to pass.

It sure looks like another Casey-Pennacchio fiasco...just another example how how the system is perverted and broken. Is the D leadership really this stupid?...to pressure this man to the point of withdrawing completely is spitting in the face of all progressives and liberals.

Peace

the revolution will not be televised...

by dada on Tue Feb 14th, 2006 at 01:06:34 AM EST
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Re: Hackett Rumored to be Dropping Senate Bid (none / 1)

Any chance the other candidates would voluntarily withdraw and leave the field to him?

by maryb2004 on Tue Feb 14th, 2006 at 01:10:10 AM EST
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Re: Hackett Rumored to be Dropping Senate Bid (none / 0)

That's a complete mystery to me, I don't know who the others might be. I'm not in Ohio and was following the Hackett primary bid because of his initial showing against Schmidt.

I'm sure some of our Ohioans will weigh in on this soon.

Peace

the revolution will not be televised...

by dada on Tue Feb 14th, 2006 at 01:14:43 AM EST
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Re: Hackett Rumored to be Dropping Senate Bid (none / 0)

Yeah, exactly what dada said, and then some.

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by NorthDakotaDemocrat (NorthDakotaDemocrat at g mail dot com) on Tue Feb 14th, 2006 at 01:10:55 AM EST
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Re: Hackett Rumored to be Dropping Senate Bid (4.00 / 2)

Agree. What they said. (WTS). Makes me think that D party has become some corporate enterprise. Maybe that is how I've ended up with a choice in MI-08 between R1 and R2. Oh no. I know. It's my fault for not being more involved with the party. I suppose if I was fighting for a progressive anti-war candidate in marginal district, there would be no party pressure by use of money and influence to ensure R2 gets nomination. More evidence that we are in system failure IMHO.

"Have you no sense of decency, sir. At long last, have you left no sense of decency?" -- Boston Attorney Joseph Welch, taking down Sen. Joseph McCarthy.

by BostonJoe on Tue Feb 14th, 2006 at 07:29:43 AM EST
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Re: Hackett Rumored to be Dropping Senate Bid (4.00 / 3)

Oh look, a pattern of behavior by Reid and Schumer. Smash the progressive candidates out of the race.

Assholes.

by CabinGirl on Tue Feb 14th, 2006 at 07:34:29 AM EST
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Re: Hackett Rumored to be Dropping Senate Bid (none / 1)

Stoller calls it "ugly", kos defends the dems. Can't blame Hackett for systemic political corruption.

by rba (nearnight12@yahoo.com) on Tue Feb 14th, 2006 at 09:05:38 AM EST
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Re: Hackett Rumored to be Dropping Senate Bid (none / 1)

Smash the progressive candidates out of the race.

In this case, unless you know something I don't about Brown's voting record or character, I don't think this is true. Indeed Brown strikes me is very progressive. The unfortunate tendency of the Dem leadership to try to control primary races by any means necessary is true, of course.

by the other colleen on Tue Feb 14th, 2006 at 10:32:34 AM EST
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Re: Hackett Rumored to be Dropping Senate Bid (4.00 / 2)

I realized after I hit post that I made a bad choice of words there. Sorry!

It's really the systematic elimination of voter choice in the primaries that I'm pissed about, anyway.

by CabinGirl on Tue Feb 14th, 2006 at 10:34:25 AM EST
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Re: Hackett Rumored to be Dropping Senate Bid (4.00 / 2)

It's really the systematic elimination of voter choice in the primaries that I'm pissed about, anyway.

No need to apologise at all. I was a rabid supporter of Howard Dean 2 frickin years before the '04 election and have been critical of the DLC for about a decade and so completely understand your anger.
I'm hoping they don't do Jon Tester (who is rapidly gaining ground in Montana) in and the the slimy Schumer does not succeed in his attempt to take Eliot Spitzer down. (I don't expect he will, I expect that Spitzer's popularity far exceeds Schumer's) I do not buy any of the rationales for promoting Casey in PA and believe that to be the worst bit of political strategy since the party backed Zell Miller.
It's just that I don't see Brown as a bad candidate, at least we were spared that.

by the other colleen on Tue Feb 14th, 2006 at 10:57:01 AM EST
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Re: Hackett Rumored to be Dropping Senate Bid (none / 1)

Now that I've read about Brown (CG hangs head sheepishly)...I agree with you about him.

The Casey thing makes my blood boil.

by CabinGirl on Tue Feb 14th, 2006 at 11:33:53 AM EST
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Re: Hackett Rumored to be Dropping Senate Bid (none / 0)

Is the process open for him to get on the ticket as an Independent or other?

by rumi on Tue Feb 14th, 2006 at 01:18:16 AM EST
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Re: Hackett Rumored to be Dropping Senate Bid (none / 0)

That would probably go against his pledge not to run against the other Dem candidates.

by maryb2004 on Tue Feb 14th, 2006 at 01:24:16 AM EST
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Re: Hackett Rumored to be Dropping Senate Bid (none / 0)

Yeah, it's likely not to be an option but I would say all deals are off, now. I haven't looked closely yet but my guess is he won't just sit around.

by rumi on Tue Feb 14th, 2006 at 01:32:35 AM EST
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Re: Hackett Rumored to be Dropping Senate Bid (none / 0)

According to the NYT article, the deadline for filing is 2 days away so I would assume that is not an option.

Peace

the revolution will not be televised...

by dada on Tue Feb 14th, 2006 at 01:27:46 AM EST
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Re: Hackett Rumored to be Dropping Senate Bid (none / 0)

I think for Inds it might be May 1
2006 Ohio Congressional and Statewide Races
Primary Filing Deadline: 2/16/06, Primary: 5/2/06, Independents Filing Deadline: 5/1/06, General Election 11/7/06,

by rumi on Tue Feb 14th, 2006 at 01:35:44 AM EST
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Re: Hackett Rumored to be Dropping Senate Bid (none / 0)

spot on and profound, brother, right on. Thanks. Love the sig, Gil Scott-Heron is quite the fine prolific urban poet.

by concerned on Tue Feb 14th, 2006 at 03:00:48 AM EST
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Re: Hackett Rumored to be Dropping Senate Bid (none / 0)

Actually no. To pressure him to withdraw is spitting in the face of grassroots activists. The difference is really important. A lot of misunderstanding has occurred over the Hackett-Brown thing because people believe Grassroots = Progressive and Beltway Insider = Centrist. It's often that way but not this time. This time you had Grassroots Centrist Hackett and Progressive Insider Brown. No matter the outcome in this primary, we Progressive Grassroots people were going to half win and half lose. In that way, it is not like PA at all, where Grassroots Progressives lose out completely if/when Bob Casey gets the nomination.

Secondhand Sun

by furryjester on Tue Feb 14th, 2006 at 10:31:13 AM EST
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Re: Hackett Rumored to be Dropping Senate Bid (none / 0)

that's what I keep telling my friends here in PA. Casey wasn't picked for his positions, but with no regard to his positions.

Brown would be the most progressive Senator since Wellstone. But people don't know him. Schumer just forced a fighting Dem out for a leftie.

The point is, let's the voters decide. But in this case, we win. Hackett might have been effective as a partisan, but we have no idea how he would have voted.

by BooMan on Tue Feb 14th, 2006 at 10:43:20 AM EST
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Re: Hackett Rumored to be Dropping Senate Bid (none / 0)

Yeah I am not disappointed with this outcome at all. And a lot of people in Ohio know and like Sherrod Brown. (I actually spent some time in Ohio and talked to them so I'm not just pulling that out of my ass.)

But I can understand why people to whom the power struggle is more important than the ideology struggle - OR people who are grassroots activists on the ground in Ohio - feel shat upon. It's not a nice feeling at all.

Secondhand Sun

by furryjester on Tue Feb 14th, 2006 at 10:52:34 AM EST
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