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Dean: ''Skullduggery'' Caused Hackett Ohio Senate Bid Withdrawal | 35 comments (35 topical, editorial, 0 hidden)

Re: Dean: ''Skullduggery'' (none / 1)

{{{{Howie opinion: We have our divisions and conflicting agendas, like everybody else, and I don't have all the answers. But I do believe it's a good idea to avoid the temptation to DIVIDE BEFORE WE CONQUER, whenever possible.}}}}

I think Howie is right on with this one!

It was so obvious what was happening yesterday and Monday. The elite of the party has got to be taken down a notch or two, dont you agree???? :o)

At least the leader that Dean is, recognizes this.

by BrendaStewart (stormyweather1@hotmail.com) on Wed Feb 15th, 2006 at 12:37:18 PM EST

Re: Dean: ''Skullduggery'' (none / 0)

I'll probably write a whole post about this soon.

It is the primary season. It is appropriate for Democrats to discuss the direction of the party and to fight for their principles right now. That means we need to fight with each other and with the goons in D.C. that have a different opinion about that the party should represent.

But, once the primaries are over, I don't think there are but 5 or 6 Republicans in the whole Congress that deserve re-election. We need majorites more than we need purity.

We have already learned our lesson. In 2008 look for the netroots to have a lot more muscle, an alternate platform, our own candidates sworn to that platform, and improved financing.

But until then, we have to suck it up and go with the candidates that win our primaries. We must win majorities. The whole fucking world is depending on us. So, fight now, make up later, and work.

by BooMan on Wed Feb 15th, 2006 at 12:47:11 PM EST
[ Parent ]

We should we (4.00 / 3)

Again with the majority vs. purity argument. Let's look at the last Senate Dem majority, shall we? Patriot Act, NSA spying, Iraq... why does anyone believe that without change, the future will be any different from the past?

What good is a majority that sends our children to kill and die? Makes no difference to the thousands who have been killed and maimed, who are homeless and hungry.

Purity, my ass. How about something as simple as respecting the Constitution, international law and human rights. We're not talking about digging up Mother Teresa, we're talking about a party that doesn't sell out the public interest for corporate cash or political positioning.

Screw the "suck it up, the whole world is depending on us" justification. For what? Kinder, gentler pre-emptive war? Nicer permanent bases?

by debraz on Wed Feb 15th, 2006 at 01:41:44 PM EST
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Re: Dean: ''Skullduggery'' (none / 0)

I agree with Howie and, but of course, you too, Brenda. As if.

I PRAY we are right.

We hold our noses and vote for the bastards again in '06 and '08.

But, by god, if they can't get the majority in Congress and the White House by then, all bets are off.

And, by god, if they DO get the majority in Congress and get in the White House, they're going to get a non-stop litany of abuse from me until they get more progressive, and stop pandering to the unfree press.

Hickok: "You know the sound of thunder. Can you imagine that sound if I ask you to? Ma'am, listen to the thunder."

by susanhu (susanhuatearthlinkdotnet) on Wed Feb 15th, 2006 at 01:07:47 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Dean: ''Skullduggery'' (none / 0)

P.S. I fully -- pessimistically -- expect my theory to fail. But it's worth a last <strike>shot</strike>, er, chance.

Hickok: "You know the sound of thunder. Can you imagine that sound if I ask you to? Ma'am, listen to the thunder."

by susanhu (susanhuatearthlinkdotnet) on Wed Feb 15th, 2006 at 01:08:45 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Dean: ''Skullduggery'' Caused Hackett Ohio Senate Bid Withdrawal | 35 comments (35 topical, 0 editorial, 0 hidden)

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