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Open Thread | 90 comments (90 topical, editorial, 0 hidden)

Re: You get back what you give. (none / 0)

you're right, the next time I disagree with something you've written I won't say "you are mistaken", I'll say "you fucking liar, how dare you".

feel better now? more at home?

by spiderleaf (spiderleaf at gmail dot com) on Tue Jun 13th, 2006 at 01:28:12 AM EST
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Re: You get back what you give. (none / 0)

I hope you understand that I am not embarrassed by thoughtful conversations about privavy, nor did I delete anything. I'm embarrassed by the panty sniffing of Armando's private life and the glee at his misfortune. It's ungreen. Or at least I'd like to think so.

by BooMan on Tue Jun 13th, 2006 at 01:44:13 AM EST
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Re: You get back what you give. (none / 0)

Hey Boo, I do get all that. It just was really starting to feel raw for me. The deleted diaries where I felt I had made all the points I needed to, but then they were gone and it really was the feeling of having to resurrect everything because the same arguments were being put forth all over again. And it's a painful process to go through. I really would have liked to move on... hell, i have a million things going on in my own life, but the facts, or arguments need to be said.

For me, this FP post felt wrong... it felt like an election fraud FP by Kos, or Armando or the "fuck ohio" KO piece... I don't want you to feel embarrased by us. We are doing a pretty fine job of hashing things out.. sometimes out of line, but enough of us try to reel things back into focus. Yeah, we can get testy, and mean sometimes, but that's life. In the end, we're learning how to interact. And I guess that's the bottom line for me with your post... it isn't specific enough about the whole 'boxers or briefs' thing and paints all discussion with a broad brush... and then of course brings in even more disscusion...

ugh. one of these days we'll figure this 'text based communicaton' thing. I swear. ;)

by spiderleaf (spiderleaf at gmail dot com) on Tue Jun 13th, 2006 at 01:59:17 AM EST
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Re: You get back what you give. (none / 0)

It's a bit jarring to sit in a room of dedicated and serious people and to try to tell them that i am a dedicated and serious person too, and have them come look at my site and see 10 people sniffing Armando's panties.

I hope that is obvious. It's not complicated.

by BooMan on Tue Jun 13th, 2006 at 02:18:20 AM EST
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Re: You get back what you give. (none / 0)

I was going to bed but got up for a smoke and took a quick peek at his thread.
Your above post just kind of irks me to no end.
I understand you don't want to be anti-kos, I really do, and what I have seen you write on the subject has been very fair handed and reasonable.

You seem to have a sort of fatalism regarding the hopeless situation and I respect that so far you've taken a hands on approach.
For my part, I think there are great people here and I respect ALL of them. We ARE all in this together even though the past few days some of us have been at each others necks over this issue. I do not hate any of them and I don't even hate Armando. I would be proud to sit and have a beer with anyone here.

But I think your portrayal of this discussion of panty sniffing is off base. First of all, as you know, the man himself ignited the controversy. Second, I really feel that this discussion has been about the concept and legalities of something a whole lot bigger than just one man blogging.

And if the people you are talking with truly are serious, then they are not going to hold you accountable for a conversation going on at your blog that you have nothing to do with. At least I hope they wouldn't. And if they do, then my advice for you would be to say fuck them. I think this more than anything is probably what brought on the mass bannings at the big Orange. Kos was embarrassed by what was going on at his site. Your statement really smacks of a pattern I'm seeing of a catering to snobbishness and eliteism. It just makes me kind of sad and hopeless feeling.

Be proud of what you have here. It's a good community.
You have nothing to be embarrassed about.

If at the end of the day what you have here has all the seriousness of John Kerry without the edge of Lenny Bruce and the self wonderment of George Carlin (The ultimate originator of META) and the indignation of Bill Hicks and maybe even a little of the out and out humor of Pee Wee Herman, Then all you'll be left with is a bunch of serious boring drones taking each other, you guessed it, too seriously.

I'm so super duper

cereal

about this!

for a more subversive take on the world visit nowhereweb

by Brian Nowhere on Tue Jun 13th, 2006 at 03:07:35 AM EST
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Re: You get back what you give. (none / 0)

Add Stephen Wright and Flavor Flav to da list, and you got it made.

Visit Notes From Underground: red state rebel scum since 2003.

by James Benjamin (durito_don at yahoo dot com) on Tue Jun 13th, 2006 at 03:33:38 AM EST
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Re: You get back what you give. (none / 0)

it's really about a reality check, Brian. I agree that Markos also reacted to the same impulse and that it could become a form of censorship if I started making comments like this all the time. You could even call it elitist. But, goddamn, it is embarrassing to see people obsessing over Armando's private life when there are so many people tackling real issues. It's just that simple.

by BooMan on Tue Jun 13th, 2006 at 09:21:31 AM EST
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Thanks (none / 0)

I'm pretty sure the whole thing is over now anyway and I understand where you are coming from.

Karl Rove is going to be back on the loose, it is time to get back to the good fight.

Myself, I've got to focus on work again for a few days and then it's back to the good fight.

for a more subversive take on the world visit nowhereweb

by Brian Nowhere on Tue Jun 13th, 2006 at 09:58:14 AM EST
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