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Find textbooks at Alibris!

NOTE: Overstock bests Amazon's prices and is "blue."

THE BOOKS WITH "BUZZ":
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Senator Edward M. Kennedy tells his extraordinary personal story:

True Compass: A Memoir
by Edward M. Kennedy.

Read Barack Obama's vision for America:

The Audacity of Hope: Thoughts on Reclaiming the American Dream
by Barack Obama

Boran2 and maryb2004 recommend:

The Big Over Easy: A Nursery Crime
by Jasper Fforde

Must-have information for all presidents-and citizens-of the twenty-first century?

Physics for Future Presidents: The Science behind the Headlines
Richard A. Muller

rae recommends:

Dark Ages America: The Final Phase of Empire
by Morris Berman.

On BooMan’s shelf:

Team of Rivals: The Political Genius of Abraham Lincoln
by Doris Kearns Goodwin

This looks interesting:

Adventure Divas
by Holly Morris

Here’s a good one from
Elizabeth Gilbert:

Eat Pray Love
by Elizabeth Gilbert

"Crash" * Best Motion Picture, Academy Awards * Only $11.79 at Overstock * 2006 SAG Winner, Best Ensemble

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Selected new arrivals at 30% off

Recommended by Indianadem and ejmw:
The Conscience of a Liberal
by Paul Wellstone

From northcountry’s bookshelf:

The New Golden Age:
The Coming Revolution Against
Political Corruption and Economic Chaos
by Ravi Batra

A novel about contractors in Iraq from the woman that runs The Spy That Billed Me:

Outsourced: A Novel
from RJ Hillhouse.


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Find mystery novels by Nancy Pickard ("Kansas")



Challenging Empire: How People, Governments, and the UN Defy US Power by Phyllis Bennis (interviewed on DN!)


Featured by Keith Olbermann, New (Powell's Sale): Rogue State: A Guide to the World's Only Superpower by William Blum (whose other books merit serious consideration)


"Explosive" State of War: The Secret History of the CIA and the Bush Administration
by James Risen


The book the CIA doesn't want you to read: Jawbreaker: The Attack on Bin Laden and Al Qaeda: A Personal Account by the CIA's Key Field Commander
Larry Johnson's review


BT's all-time best seller:

PERMACULTURE:
A Designers' Manual

$79.95 * Sale: $59.95


Unequal Sisters: A Multicultural Reader in U.S. Women's History (Third Edition)


The Undercover Economist: Exposing Why the Rich Are Rich, the Poor Are Poor And Why You Can Never Buy a Decent Used Car!


The Worst Hard Time: The Untold Story of Those Who Survived the Great American Dust Bowl
by Timothy Egan


Green Press Initiative
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Journalistas: 100 Years of the Best Writing and Reporting by Women Journalists by Eleanor Mills * NYT review


Bury Me Standing: the Gypsies & Their Journey


1491: New Revelations of the Americas before Columbus



Brokeback Mountain
by Annie Proulx
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"At The Movies"


Imperial Ambitions: Conversations on the Post-9/11 World by Noam Chomsky (Power & Terror: Post 9-11 Talks)


The Price of Privilege:

How Parental Pressure and
Material Advantage Are Creating a Generation of
Disconnected and Unhappy Kids

by Madeline Levine


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First, I would guess that legalizing torture would mean more casualties. If I knew that I was likely to be tortured (possibly even to death), I would probably resist capture by any means necessary. I'd rather go down in a hail of gunfire or by blowing myself and as many enemies as I can, rather than be waterboarded and beaten for months.

Secondly, there is no moral justification to criticize any group who captures and tortures American soldiers or civilians. Thousands of innocent civilians have been captured and tortured by the US government, making all Americans a target for retaliation.

Violent torture has never been proven to produce any useful information. What it is very good at producing is false confessions and inaccurate information as the torture victim attempts to tell their torturer whatever they want to hear to end their agony. Besides, the experiences of POWs will tell you that some people cannot be broken by torture, if they have a strong enough will then you can torture them to death and not get a scrap of useful information.

As for the Rev. Sheldon? The religious right disgusts me and has turned me quite strongly against religion in general. Considering the amount of blood that has been shed in whatever god's name and the surprising amounts of justification for holy war and attacking unbelievers in whatever holy book you want to read, organized religion lost any claim to speak on behalf of peace a long time ago. Christianity has nothing to do with Jesus, it's an imperial religion explicitly modeled on Roman government and designed to keep people dominated by a small group of ecclesiatical elites. I'm surprised that anyone is still surprised when Christian leaders support war, torture, violence, etc, given the long history of holy wars, crusades against foreign non-believers and heretical Christians, burning of witches, etc. The only way to be a Christian or Jew or Muslim against war, violence, torture, etc, is to accept that large parts of your holy book are complete and utter bullshit. You can cherry-pick out the pacifist parts, but there are even more parts advocating violence in the name of God.

I'm completely in favor of the separation of Church and State. My idea is that these two institutions screw us up enough on their own. ----- George Carlin

by Poeschek (n_poeschek@yahoo.com) on Wed Sep 20th, 2006 at 12:37:09 PM EST
In fairness, the New Testament does not contain any jihadist language.  It is a book written by people suffering under Roman subjugation.  Their ethics reflect this.  Give unto Caesar that which is Caesar's and unto God that which is God's.  If someone slaps you on the cheek, turn the other cheek to them so it can slapped as well.  

Give up all your worldly possessions, and follow the way of the Lord.  

These are not warrior ethics.  And that is the point.  The Israeli Jews of the first century were not happy with being ruled by pagans.  They carried out a vicious insurgency, eventually leading the Romans to destroy the temple in Jerusalem (in 70CE) and then banned from entering Jerusalem in 135 CE.

Hadrian attempted to root out Judaism, which he saw as the cause of continuous rebellions. He prohibited the Torah law, the Jewish calendar and executed Judaic scholars. The sacred scroll was ceremoniously burned on the Temple Mount. At the former Temple sanctuary, he installed two statues, one of Jupiter, another of himself. In an attempt to erase any memory of Judea, he wiped the name off the map and replaced it with Syria Palaestina, as an insulting reminder of the Jews' ancient enemies the Philistines, long-extinct by then. He reestablished Jerusalem as the Roman pagan polis of Aelia Capitolina, and Jews were forbidden from entering it.

That is the context within which a schismatic sect of Jews and Greek converts built up a pacifistic and communal ethos that became Christianity.  

It was a philosophy of non-resistance and otherworldliness,  and it stressed social services.  Kind of like a pacifist Hezbollah.  

Obviously, this all changed when it became the official religion of the Roman Empire 250 years later.  But don't blame it on the book.  

by BooMan on Wed Sep 20th, 2006 at 12:54:57 PM EST
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Not true, Boo. The New Testament is full of violence along with the pacifism. Those have been widely quoted so I won't bother unless you want to see them yet again. More relevant is Luke 16:17 (NAB): "It is easier for Heaven and Earth to pass away than for the smallest part of the letter of the law to become invalid." In other words, the New Testament, far from renouncing the atrocities of the Old, explicitly upholds every word.

Can't have it both ways.

FDR's response to progressive demands: "I agree. Now go out and make me do it."

by DaveW on Wed Sep 20th, 2006 at 01:59:52 PM EST
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yes.  I want to see them again.  

The violence in the NT is reserved for the damned and is meted out by God.  

Show me where there is a call to arms for followers of Jesus?  Show me where they are instructed to smite unbelievers?  Show me any violence?

Bootstrapping the NT to the OT is not what I'm talking about.  That has always been a problem.  But that is different from saying the NT (alone) has any jihadist language.  It doesn't.

by BooMan on Wed Sep 20th, 2006 at 02:18:15 PM EST
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Matthew 10:34 "Do not think that I came to bring peace on earth. I did not come to bring peace but a sword. 35 For I have come to  `set  a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law'; 36 and  `a man's enemies will be  those of his own  household."

That's the classic I guess. Much of the rest is rather politically brilliant in the way it calls down curses on the unbelievers without explicitly telling the followers to make it so. For example, Matthew 15 4: "For God said, '(D)HONOR YOUR FATHER AND MOTHER,' and, 'HE WHO SPEAKS EVIL OF FATHER OR MOTHER IS TO BE PUT TO DEATH." Not his fault if the faithful decide to help God's plan along. As they've been doing for around 2000 years.

FDR's response to progressive demands: "I agree. Now go out and make me do it."

by DaveW on Wed Sep 20th, 2006 at 02:52:37 PM EST
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This is largely true, although the big problem has always been that Jesus is never recorded as saying that he repudiates the violence or bigotry of the Old Testament. Christian religions are thus free to cherry pick which elements of the Old Testament they like and don't like.

I completely agree that the Koran is a far more violent text though. I don't remember where I saw it, but I saw a list of the times that the Koran calls on believers to kill infidels and I seem to remember it being 4 or 5 pages of quotes.

Essentially, we've allowed this bit of Iron Age thinking to remain fundamental to the thoughts of billions in this modern world, which seems strange. We have expanded our minds in so many ways, but religion manages to march on...

I'm completely in favor of the separation of Church and State. My idea is that these two institutions screw us up enough on their own. ----- George Carlin

by Poeschek (n_poeschek@yahoo.com) on Wed Sep 20th, 2006 at 05:03:28 PM EST
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