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Dear Mom | 127 comments (127 topical, editorial, 3 hidden)

Re: Dear Mom (4.00 / 2)

I am really disappointed that it seems like some posters have no compassion for someone that is in pain. Do you have to get the last word? Do you need to badger someone to DEATH? Can you find it in yourselves to accept that there are differences in opinion and that yours might not be the only correct one?

Are we adults? Have we no empathy or compassion?

I am really troubled by this.

"Don't waste your time on the clowns, watch the real show"

by Second Nature on Thu Feb 1st, 2007 at 11:00:52 AM EST

Re: Dear Mom (4.00 / 2)

There is an element of baiting that goes on when Tracy posts comments. It is done in an insidious way so that it can later be denied as being "just snark" or "just a question". But reasonable people can infer what is going on in those posts and realize that they are meant to be bait.

Tracy, however, needs to deal with this in ways other than blowing up.

I would refer Tracy to Teach313's excellent diary about how he taught third graders the tactic of ignoring bullies and not taking the bait.

by maryb2004 on Thu Feb 1st, 2007 at 11:18:49 AM EST
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Re: Dear Mom (4.00 / 2)

Oh get over it. Baiting Tracy by posting our opinions? For fucks sake is this Free Republic or a progressive community? I am allowed to have whatever opinions I want and to express them. That's not baiting, it's a community discussion.

If you'll take a look, Tracy had the first bait comment in super's thread and it worked quite well for her. Look at all the sympathy she's garnered.

Yup, BooTrib's Armando/BTD.

by spiderleaf (spiderleaf at gmail dot com) on Thu Feb 1st, 2007 at 11:22:37 AM EST
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Re: Dear Mom (2.75 / 4)

No, I will not get over it.

I will, however, refer YOU to Teach313's excellent diary about ignoring baiting. Since you fell for my bait.

You are a bully spiderleaf. And, to make it perfectly clear, I will be ignoring your further comments in this diary.

by maryb2004 on Thu Feb 1st, 2007 at 11:26:51 AM EST
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Re: Dear Mom (none / 1)

If you were baiting then you proved your own point; that I fell for it proves mine. Nice one.

Whatever Mary, I stopped respecting you a long time ago when I saw how you operate over at dkos. Really couldn't care less that you think I'm a bully... right, by posting my words disagreeing with you and others you agree with. I'd point you to my diary on "the road to kingdom come" but obviously you can only see the perspective you want to.

Okay, I get it now. Thanks so much for enlightening me.

by spiderleaf (spiderleaf at gmail dot com) on Thu Feb 1st, 2007 at 11:30:56 AM EST
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Re: Dear Mom (none / 1)

btw, troll rated for personal attack.

by spiderleaf (spiderleaf at gmail dot com) on Thu Feb 1st, 2007 at 11:35:51 AM EST
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I'm in a much better mood now (none / 0)

and I just don't feel like lettin ya get the best of me spidey. Troll rate MaryB though? I'm not really too sure how out of whack someone has to be to troll rate MaryB. MaryB is very solid, very centered, very balanced.

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by Militarytracy on Thu Feb 1st, 2007 at 08:38:20 PM EST
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Re: Dear Mom (4.00 / 3)

SN, I think you know I have no end of compassion for military families, as a Gold Star family member myself. I have very vivid memories of how it felt to know my brothers life was on the line while having to listen to the whole military condemned for the actions of some, and for the war itself. I felt the anguish, the rage, all of it. And I also lashed out in his defense sometimes.

But my suffering did not give me some right to try control other peoples opinions or to deny them their right to express them in public forums or community settings.

I certainly did exercise my right to not have those people in my home and my right to avoid subjecting myself to this kind of dialog by avoiding groups and places where it was going on. I had to, because it literally drove me mad with rage, at the time.

ONward!

by scribe (scribe40@comcast.net) on Thu Feb 1st, 2007 at 11:49:21 AM EST
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Read this fabrication... (4.00 / 2)

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/2/1/91624/00318

Frodo failed...Bush has got the ring.

by alohaleezy on Thu Feb 1st, 2007 at 12:40:08 PM EST
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Re: Read this fabrication... (4.00 / 3)

Tracy, how is taking this all over to Dkos honoring what you daughter has asked of you, which is to just let go of your involvement with all of this, because it's hurting her and all of you?

ONward!

by scribe (scribe40@comcast.net) on Thu Feb 1st, 2007 at 02:29:48 PM EST
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Re: Read this fabrication... (4.00 / 3)

Hi Aloha, I just ran over and read the diary...wow.

Click here to step into the Village Blue2

by diane101 (dianed101 @ yahoo.com) on Thu Feb 1st, 2007 at 02:35:15 PM EST
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Re: Read this fabrication... (4.00 / 5)

yeah, wow -- what's that all about?

by bogo bear on Thu Feb 1st, 2007 at 02:53:10 PM EST
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Re: Dear Mom (none / 1)

She's not the only one in pain SN. And for her to claim monopoly on that and continue to bully, harrass, and insult members of this community who have every right to express themselves in a way that eases THEIR pain is hypocrisy at best.

But please, you, CG, Boo, continue to enable this horrible and hurtful behaviour. SHE picked a fight in super's diary and now is claiming the whole community hurts her. Pretty lame and quite transparent for all who take a real look at what went down... prior to this, during it, and now in this crazy diary.

If you can tell me what super said in the comment that justifies IN ANY WAY Tracy's response please do so vs. throwing around strawmen like "we have no compassion".

by spiderleaf (spiderleaf at gmail dot com) on Thu Feb 1st, 2007 at 11:12:03 AM EST
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Re: Dear Mom (none / 0)

I'm saying that as humans, not Americans, Canadians, women, men - as humans, can we not see that something is out of control here and have some compassion. And if you're a mother you no doubt understand that your children are sacrosanct and if anyone says anything that is even PERCEIVED to be threatening, you come out like a lion.

I'm human. I don't know Tracy that well - but I can see she is in trouble. I'm not interested in comparing levels of pain right now.

"Don't waste your time on the clowns, watch the real show"

by Second Nature on Thu Feb 1st, 2007 at 11:15:44 AM EST
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Re: Dear Mom (4.00 / 2)

SN, I can understand that, but I am under no obligation to stop expressing what I think in order to lessen her pain. The onus is on her not to participate if she can't control herself. It's counterproductive to what we are trying to accomplish and stifles the very rights American's claim to uphold -- free speech for starters.

Janet was in pain too, but it was acceptable for Tracy to shit all over her.

I don't do hypocrisy as a general rule.

I can appreciate she is in pain, so am I, but I will not let spin or deception or behaviour that seeks to garner attention to the detriment of others to stand unchallenged. No matter who is doing it or what their situation.

by spiderleaf (spiderleaf at gmail dot com) on Thu Feb 1st, 2007 at 11:26:17 AM EST
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