#1 is hillary isnt that bad

Yes, she is.  I'd already read Larry's piece on her but I've been watching her since she first announced her intent to run for the Senate in 2000, and she has tracked further and further to the corporate right every year, culminating (for me) with her hawking the Iraq war in 2002-3.  She either lacks judgment, courage or integrity, and I don't seriously doubt her judgment or courage.  She's simply not on my side, and that's cool, but I simply won't support her, and I have been surprised to find that I am not alone on that score.

At what point do you believe Hillary will be an improvement over George Bush? Her differences with Bush have been in matters of degrees, not in substance.  She apparently figured that was the politically-pragmatic position, much like John F'ing Kerry on Iraq, and I see her in much the same light as Kerry.  The biggest difference is that Kerry lacked the courage to make substantive changes, Hillary seems to lack the will - her constituency does not demand dramatic change, just a little tinkering around the edges, because every-day people are not the constituency of the DLC, and we never have been.

#2 is hucklberry isnt a real christian....he is a pseudo christian...he hates

One of the biggest mistakes that anyone can make is to actually believe your own caricatures of those who disagree with you.  It is useful in shaping public opinion to characterize one's opponents as irrational, emotionally unstable individuals who are prejudiced against a specific people-group for no rational reason, but one actually believes that characterization at one's own peril.

You say that you "will never defend anyone who would vote for someone who will legislate their right wing intolerant narrow minded pseudo christian hateful religious sounding doctrine above what i believe are fundamental human rights that should be american citizen rights" - and that is your right, of course - as is it the right of others to "never defend anyone who would vote for someone who will legislate their left wing intolerant narrow minded pseudo christian hateful religious sounding doctrine above what i believe are fundamental human rights that should be american citizen rights" - namely, the 1st Amendment.

Specifically, the basis of one's political positions is irrelevant - if someone believes that the Iraq War is wrong because of utilitarianism, the Bible, the flight velocity of migratory swallows (African, not European), or Ms. Cleo, it matters not - all that matters is if they can convince a majority of their peers to vote with them on that issue.  Regardless of the basis of one's support or opposition to homosexuality and its acceptance by society, all that matters is if you can convince a majority of your peers to support your particular position - there are no invalid bases for one's position if we truly have a freedom of speech, assembly, religion, and to petition the government.  The separation of church and state simply keeps the state from establishing an official church or mandating a specific religion as the national religion - as Thomas Jefferson himself pointed out - it is not the separation of religious thought and legislation. Saying that someone can believe something but they can not act on that belief is essentially saying that they can not, in fact, believe something that you do not agree with or approve of - much like George Bush's "Free Speech Zones" - and that, too, is quintessentially un-American.

black church going folks have to stop the hating

Again, the emotion that you ascribe to me and mine simply does not exist - it's not hatred, it's opposition to the validation of an activity and lifestyle that we understand to be immoral.  You may disagree, and that is fine, but one of the points that I've made here is that if submission to your opinion becomes a litmus test for remaining within the ranks of the Democratic Party then we will, indeed, walk.  As for me, I've laid out in detail how I balance all of this (homosexuality, abortion, et al.) in a post, Why I'm Not A Republican last year.

Obviously, if I'm no longer welcome in the Democratic Party then that will change...

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