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Peace and Militarism at Church--Updated | 27 comments (27 topical, editorial, 0 hidden)

Re: Peace and Militarism at Church (4.00 / 4)

My father, so Catholic he was almost a priest, stood during a mass about a year ago and said "No!" to the priest in front of the whole congregation and walked out. If memory serves, the sermon was something along the lines of, right or wrong we need to support our President.

The Catholic Church preaches the importance of individual conscience. He really followed his.

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by Real History Lisa (lpeaseRemoveThis@gte.net) on Tue Feb 6th, 2007 at 05:24:06 PM EST
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Re: Peace and Militarism at Church (4.00 / 2)

That's a great story. I like to think I'd do the same thing if presented with the same provocation.

Was there more to the story? What kind of reactions did he get? Did he go back? Did he ever talk to the priest about it?

by Arminius on Tue Feb 6th, 2007 at 05:42:57 PM EST
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Re: Peace and Militarism at Church (4.00 / 3)

That is strange. My father spent many years in the seminary after a Classic education. Just before being ordained, I think he was a novice, he was refused into the priesthood for having hearing problems. After spending more than seven years under Jesuit teaching he was then sent out into this world, very ill prepared for what he had to face. To marry my mother, she had to renounce her religious belief, I believe she was a Unitarian or Baptiste, & convert to catholicism. Talk about some mixed up ideas I had. I spent years as an alterboy but was dissillusioned by it all when the priest I used to serve mass for, used to yell at me to bring a couple of more wine cruets during the ceremony. He`d burp & to me showed disrespect to Jesus. This after my father was refused entry into the priesthood because if he couldn`t hear the alterboy`s "et cum spiri tutu um" the mass would not be valid. hah! I was told finally to be quiet when asking pointed questions during a parish visit once [where the priests go door to door once a year to every one in town`s home. That sort of soured me on the whole idea, that followers should be mute.

The difference between theists and atheists is that the atheists don't set the theists on fire for refusing to agree with them.

by KNUCKLEHEAD on Tue Feb 6th, 2007 at 07:15:07 PM EST
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Re: Peace and Militarism at Church (4.00 / 3)

Hi Lisa!

I find it strange that the priest would ask the parishioners to support the President when he ignored the pleas of John Paul II and led this country to war against Iraq .

Thinking back to my catechism classes, wasn't it "obey your father and mother in all that is not sinful"? I guess that doesn't apply to George W. Bush.

Good for your father.

by venice ca on Tue Feb 6th, 2007 at 07:18:01 PM EST
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