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Hate Groups and the Anti-Immigrant Brigade | 35 comments (35 topical, editorial, 0 hidden)

Re: Hate Groups and the Anti-Immigrant Brigade (4.00 / 5)

I've just about given up on DKos and immigration. Every time someone tries to address some of the fall out from the immigration debate there, someone starts screaming "what part of ILLEGAL don't you understand". If you espouse any kind of Latino solidarity, you are called a racist. The majority are not that way, but there are enough there who poison the well. It's sad that the "left" doesn't understand how toxic this immigration issue has become.

by mariachi mama (jcgonzalezp at prodigy.net.mx) on Wed Mar 21st, 2007 at 10:25:38 PM EST

Re: Hate Groups and the Anti-Immigrant Brigade (4.00 / 4)

To which I reply "a person cannot be 'illegal'." Illegal is not immoral, or even always wrong. What part of that is so hard to understand?

(La raza has always been good to me, it's mi gente that I worry about).

by keres on Wed Mar 21st, 2007 at 10:34:04 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Hate Groups and the Anti-Immigrant Brigade (4.00 / 5)

hi mariachi mama. I rarely post diaries over there because it is frustrating. I think the reason it boils up there is because there are alot more people overall at that site. Their sentiment is certainly part of the mainstream, it's just unfortunate that they are blinded to the ways they enable truly racist behavior. Of course, some of them are racist, but that's a whole other ball of wax. Thanks for your comments and recommends, they're always appreciated.

Latino Político v3.0 has launched!

by Man Eegee (man.eegee at gmail.com) on Wed Mar 21st, 2007 at 10:34:09 PM EST
[ Parent ]

What really bothers me (4.00 / 5)

on a very personal level, is how many times I have been called a racist there. It's caused some self examination, which is good.

Like this:

I've seen your hiddeously racist posts on here before (And I say this as a native Californian).

But I never see you, or any of the other spanish speaking folks respecting the other cultures that contributed to the greatness that is America.

No, you are all just a bunch of cry-babies. Me. Me. Me. Me.

Just like the rethuglicans. My Church. My Church. My Church. My money. My money. My money.

And the funniest thing of all is:

I refuse to, and will NEVER EVER learn Spanish. Ever.

And yet I get a shit load of work in Mexico. That pays quite well. Why is it that everybody in Mexico that is worth a sh*t knows English or German or Portugese or Chinese, but all the racist pigs on here want to tell me I need to learn Spanish.

Oh yeah, cuz yer racist pigs.

by djpat on Sun Jan 07, 2007 at 07:31:21 PM MDT

or this:

mama mama mama (0+ / 6-)
Trollrated by:maryb2004, mem from somerville, Duke1676, Albatross, Dianna, Brahman Colorado
you might fool some around here with your racial self-pity and Latino Kos bullshit but not me. Why don't you migrate over to La Raza.com and have done with it....

by sooner on Fri Mar 09, 2007 at 01:37:40 AM MDT

Am I a racist?

by mariachi mama (jcgonzalezp at prodigy.net.mx) on Wed Mar 21st, 2007 at 10:48:09 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: What really bothers me (4.00 / 4)

i believe that's called projection.

I've received the same type of vitriol, but it's usually in the form of emails because the trolls at my blog are too cowardly to say what they have to say in public.

Like I said in the orange thread: It's alright tho, through the work I do in real life and the anti-Latino sentiment I receive first-hand, I know that I'm not talking about straw men. These things are happening everyday and until enough people recognize that it must be directly confronted, these types of diaries will not be stopped.

I like to think of them as the Fingers-In-Ears Crew; they don't want to hear nor believe that the political views they hold lead to some of the worst, violent actions in society. You are aware of the negative sentiments because you probably interact/live the situation. That's why we have to keep speaking out, imo

Latino Político v3.0 has launched!

by Man Eegee (man.eegee at gmail.com) on Wed Mar 21st, 2007 at 10:54:48 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: What really bothers me (4.00 / 6)

This is so important:

You are aware of the negative sentiments because you probably interact/live the situation. That's why we have to keep speaking out, imo

And yet it can become so draining to continually keep calling out or explaining when someone says (or writes) something that is some sort of racist, sexist, or other "ist." But that is what teaching is and, in a way, it doesn't end. But the "teacher" has to be sure to get plenty of support and respite and renewal... or they burn out.

What matters to me, what I find so incredibly valuable here, is the opportunity to understand other people's lives and their thinking and view of the world. And if I choose to, I can engage with them... writing my questions and wonderings.

My world expands... and I see differently. For example, when I cross paths with people in the real world, I think, "Oh, this might be Man Eegee." And I smile.

Thank you for being one of my teachers ;)

Those who dance are considered insane by those who can't hear the music. (George Carlin)

by tampopo on Wed Mar 21st, 2007 at 11:20:46 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: What really bothers me (4.00 / 3)

hi tampopo! every comment you write provides such great insight, thanks for sharing them with us.

our perspectives are all we can offer and hopefully they will, on occasion, resonate with another story and produce an outcome that brings about a more humane world.

Latino Político v3.0 has launched!

by Man Eegee (man.eegee at gmail.com) on Wed Mar 21st, 2007 at 11:28:19 PM EST
[ Parent ]

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