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Contempt Proceedings | 14 comments (14 topical, editorial, 0 hidden)

Re: Contempt Proceedings (none / 0)

they need to be in office if / when sentences are handed out so that they can commute jail time in exchange for silence.

Not so. Ford's pardon of RMN established a precedent for the "indeterminate pardon."

Now, therefore, I, Gerald R. Ford, President of the United States, pursuant to the pardon power conferred upon me by Article II, Section 2, of the Constitution, have granted and by these presents do grant a full, free, and absolute pardon unto Richard Nixon for all offenses against the United States which he, Richard Nixon, has committed or may have committed or taken part in* during the period from July (January) 20, 1969 through August 9, 1974.

*italics mine

Assuming arguendo that somehow the Shrubberies have actually been persuaded to leave office peacefully, I think we can expect to see blanket pardons for all Bush appointees or GOP officials "for any crimes they may have committed between October 31, 1999 and January 20, 2009 or related to actions taken during that period."

And I think we can expect that regardless of the state of any investigations at that time.

I think it's more likely this is being put off in hopes that the public will be distracted by another missing blonde bimbo (or equivalent) so that they won't actually have to address the issue at all....

We are all captives of the pictures in our heads -- our belief that the world which we have experienced is the world that really exists. -- Walter Lippman

by stormkite on Wed Jul 25th, 2007 at 01:21:20 PM EST
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Re: Contempt Proceedings (none / 0)

True.

Bush's last act will be a blanket pre-emptive pardon of anyone and everyone who may have the dirt on his administration's misrule.

A conservative is a man with two perfectly good legs who, however, has never learned how to walk forward. Franklin D. Roosevelt

by Steven D on Wed Jul 25th, 2007 at 01:27:22 PM EST
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Re: Contempt Proceedings (none / 0)

I believe there's a difference in what protections you can claim in further testimony after you've been pardoned vs. having part of a sentence commuted, but I'm not a lawyer. I thought that had something to do with why Bush commuted Libby's jail time instead of just pardoning him.

The way I understand it, even if they're pardoned for crimes committed during the entire reign of the Bush administration, the day he is out of office and they still haven't shown up to testify before Congress, they're still in contempt of congress and could be prosecuted as such. Unless he's going to write blanket pardons into the future, which I don't believe there is precedent for but wouldn't put past them to try.

Tengo un sueño.

by ejmw (ewitham (at) umich (dot) edu) on Wed Jul 25th, 2007 at 01:36:48 PM EST
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Re: Contempt Proceedings (none / 1)

Yup. Commuted sentence means that threats of prosecution remain valid, thus Scooter can climb into a hole and pull the fifth amendment over himself. A pardon wouldn't allow that.

However, a blanket pardon for everyone at the end of his term means the investigations will be, for all intents and purposes, moot. Nobody will be left liable, nobody can be charged with anything and all the documents will be classified until the end of the world - in essence all the faits will be accompli'd.

And the D's will announce "our long national nightmare is over" and go on to assume the quasi-dictatorial powers Shrub has left them to continue the conquest of the world.

We are all captives of the pictures in our heads -- our belief that the world which we have experienced is the world that really exists. -- Walter Lippman

by stormkite on Wed Jul 25th, 2007 at 02:45:13 PM EST
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