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Four hundred years of slavery and one hundred years of Jim Crow...and they boycotted buses...did not blow them up.  They marched and we're beaten, and did not resist.  And they won.

I will never have an ounce of sympathy for someone that straps on explosives and kills innocent civilians.  But it isn't even about sympathy.  It's about results.  Is it effective?  Does committing acts of terrorism get your people what they want?  Or does it traumatize the victims and cause them to harden their hearts and support ever greater atrocities in response?  Does it cause that society to militarize itself?  Does it cause that society to clamp down on the rights and freedoms of its people?  Does it lead them to make peace?  

None of the great leaders of history won freedom for their people by resorting to terrorism.  They appealed to people's sense of fairness and morality.  Sometimes they failed and their people were decimated.  Sometimes their great-great grandchildren were the ones that finally saw liberation and justice.  But find me one case where terrorism ultimately prevailed.  

I don't dismiss your statistics out of Ramallah, though neither do I blindly accept them.  They are simply not relevant to me because they cannot justify terrorism.  The tactics of non-violence are well known and have an excellent track record of efficacy.  

Going back to Jim Crow...non-violence worked.  When the movement turned militant and cities began to burn, there was an inevitable backlash that hardened people's hearts and led them to look toward authoritarians like Nixon and Kissinger for safety.  

Terrorism is wrong and ineffective, and it harms everyone.

by BooMan on Thu Sep 20th, 2007 at 02:24:09 PM EST
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THIS: The tactics of non-violence are well known and have an excellent track record of efficacy.  

Going back to Jim Crow...non-violence worked.

AND THIS: Terrorism is wrong and ineffective, and it harms everyone.

No one disagrees with, including state terrorism as when a modern military equiped with American made weapons decimates civilian neighbors, producing the statistics I posted.

Your problem, and that of a lot of other people new to this area, is that they are unaware that Palestinian nonviolent protest has been going on in the West Bank and Gaza (earlier) for decades. WHY DON'T YOU KNOW ABOUT IT?

Simple: lack of publicity in the USA. And that lack of publicity is due to news censorship and propaganda that has been fed to the American public for decades.

Nonviolent protest cannot succeed as it did during the Civil Rights era without publicity. That is its purpose.

The other problem with your take on all this is the ease with which you blame a people under military occupation for 40 years, while their lands were being colonized, for their victimhood, while taking a view of the occupiers as innocents. In short, you have bought into the terrorist meme that Israeli propaganda has been pushing for the last several years, making it appear as though their occupation is for the purpose of fighting terrorism.

What boloney! You need to sit down and take a hard look at the documentary, Peace, Propaganda, & The Promised Land (Google for the full version), and get up to date.

Got it now?

by shergald on Thu Sep 20th, 2007 at 05:03:12 PM EST
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you constantly read things into what I write that I did not write.

  1. I'm not talking about non-violent efforts by the Palestinians, I'm talking about whether suicide bombers can be justified.

  2. I didn't say a word about the Israeli's actions because we weren't talking about the Israelis.  We were talking about Iran and your assertion that Iran cannot be rightfully accused of supporting terrorism because Hamas and Hizbollah are not terrorists...or if they are terrorists, they are justified...or if they aren't justified, the Israelis are just as bad...or something.

Let me put this another way.  When Detroit was burning during the '67 riots, it really wouldn't have been too effective to tell a scared white family that it wasn't really all that scary because a few years earlier all the protests had been peaceful and non-violent.  How is that relevant to their situation hiding their kids in the bathtub to avoid stray bullets?  

It's not.

The non-violent Palestinian movement is not relevant to their plight today.  If they continue to use violence they will continue to be beaten badly and their position will continue to erode.  If, on the other hand, they pursue an exclusively non-violent strategy, it will not be so easy for the United States to turn a blind eye to their situation.  

It seems like all day I've been discussing tactics over what's right and just.  

by BooMan on Thu Sep 20th, 2007 at 05:49:01 PM EST
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No one would also disagree with the proposition that Palestinian violence in the form of suicide bombings harmed their cause. That is obvious from the way Israeli hasbara used it to their advantage.

But this I disagree with:

"If, on the other hand, they pursue an exclusively non-violent strategy, it will not be so easy for the United States to turn a blind eye to their situation."

Wrong. I said publicity is essential for nonviolent protest to be effective. There have been almost 150 protest marches in Bil'in, West Bank every Friday, some involving as many as 500 people from a variety of Israeli and Palestinian peace organizations plus internationals. Have you heard of even one of them? Well, maybe if your were blogging in the liberal wilderness and saw a publication by myself or some other propeace activist.

That is the point you're not getting. When Palestinians have resorted to peaceful protest, the press was silent. They only seem to find reason to publish something when Palestinian violence is entailed because that is what the Israeli armed forces communication services feeds the press.

This is not also to say that suicide bombing is justified, ever. But I have often covered this issue and see them as atrocities committed in retaliation for IDF committed atrocities again Palestinian civilians including children. That is at least what the data say. Do you think those 27 children who were shot in the head, before a suicide bombing occurred, were intentionally shot in the head by IDF soldiers. Well, in the next three months of the Second Intifada, another 159 Palestinian children, presumably rock throwing Intifada boys and girls, lost an eye to rubber bullets from IDF rifles. Do you think the IDF were intentionally head shooting? That they were shooting at children at all to me is appalling.

None of the latter information on Palestinian child deaths and head shooting ever got into the American press. So you wonder why Palestinians would resort to violence? At some point, the ineffectiveness of the peace activists becomes obvious, or I would suppose. It didn't change anything. Should we also blame silent newspaper editors in American for part of this tragedy?

I think so.

by shergald on Thu Sep 20th, 2007 at 06:21:50 PM EST
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Did you miss the word 'exclusively'?

It's the key word.  Is that realistic?  At this point, probably not.  

by BooMan on Thu Sep 20th, 2007 at 06:49:07 PM EST
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" If, on the other hand, they pursue an exclusively non-violent strategy, it will not be so easy for the United States to turn a blind eye to their situation."

Wrong again. It has been easy. Between 1998 and 2000, there were no hostile actions by even Hamas, and nothing was heard. After 2003 when suicide bombings stopped, largely due to the Wall, we heard nothing about nonviolent protests and the Wall stimulated many of them. When there was no violence, there has been silence, even when the protesters were being gased, water blasted, or shot with rubber bullets. That is to say, Israeli military violence receives no press. Only Palestinian violence is worthy of press. Little wonder why Americans believe Palestinians are terrorists.

Propaganda uber alles.

by shergald on Thu Sep 20th, 2007 at 07:19:02 PM EST
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PS: I've had this tip of the tongue phrase in the back of my mind in responding to your criticisms of Palestinian actions that have been counterproductive, such as suicide bombings or rocketing Sderot.

Like this one, they inadvertently employ a propaganda technique called de-contextualization, whose purpose it is to cut out the causal chains that lead to a false attribution of blame, often reversing the perpetrator-victim relationship, as is now done routinely by Israeli hasbara services. Understanding something is not intended to condone it, but only to get at the causality.

Thus, if Israel had not wantonly killed those adults and children at the start of the Second Intifada, there would not have been any suicide bombings. That statement does not justify them, but only provides a realistic explanation of why they occurred. That statement also does not contradict the notion that they were extremely damaging to the cause of the Palestinians, at least in the US where news censorship and propaganda is slanted toward distortions and lies which favor Israel.

by shergald on Fri Sep 21st, 2007 at 09:40:01 AM EST
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