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Senator Edward M. Kennedy tells his extraordinary personal story:

True Compass: A Memoir
by Edward M. Kennedy.

Read Barack Obama's vision for America:

The Audacity of Hope: Thoughts on Reclaiming the American Dream
by Barack Obama

Boran2 and maryb2004 recommend:

The Big Over Easy: A Nursery Crime
by Jasper Fforde

Must-have information for all presidents-and citizens-of the twenty-first century?

Physics for Future Presidents: The Science behind the Headlines
Richard A. Muller

rae recommends:

Dark Ages America: The Final Phase of Empire
by Morris Berman.

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Team of Rivals: The Political Genius of Abraham Lincoln
by Doris Kearns Goodwin

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Adventure Divas
by Holly Morris

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Eat Pray Love
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The Conscience of a Liberal
by Paul Wellstone

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The New Golden Age:
The Coming Revolution Against
Political Corruption and Economic Chaos
by Ravi Batra

A novel about contractors in Iraq from the woman that runs The Spy That Billed Me:

Outsourced: A Novel
from RJ Hillhouse.


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"Explosive" State of War: The Secret History of the CIA and the Bush Administration
by James Risen


The book the CIA doesn't want you to read: Jawbreaker: The Attack on Bin Laden and Al Qaeda: A Personal Account by the CIA's Key Field Commander
Larry Johnson's review


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PERMACULTURE:
A Designers' Manual

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Unequal Sisters: A Multicultural Reader in U.S. Women's History (Third Edition)


The Undercover Economist: Exposing Why the Rich Are Rich, the Poor Are Poor And Why You Can Never Buy a Decent Used Car!


The Worst Hard Time: The Untold Story of Those Who Survived the Great American Dust Bowl
by Timothy Egan


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Journalistas: 100 Years of the Best Writing and Reporting by Women Journalists by Eleanor Mills * NYT review


Bury Me Standing: the Gypsies & Their Journey


1491: New Revelations of the Americas before Columbus



Brokeback Mountain
by Annie Proulx
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Imperial Ambitions: Conversations on the Post-9/11 World by Noam Chomsky (Power & Terror: Post 9-11 Talks)


The Price of Privilege:

How Parental Pressure and
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I know it's annoying for anyone to say anything nice about Ronald Reagan, but I think it's indisputable that he put the country on a different path, and I think it is at least arguable that the country was ready for a rollback of the Great Society, although I wouldn't make that argument.  I guess my question is, 'what, exactly, do you find objectionable in that excerpt?'  

Is it that you find it to be factually false, or is it that you think it is bad politics, or is it that you think it means that Obama is some kind of New Democrat in the mold of Joe Lieberman?

I see a lot of Democrats saying that Reagan wasn't sunny and optimistic at all, but a brutal ogre.  The problem with that is that Reagan was both.  The country was in a very dark place in 1980, and it cannot be dismissed that Reagan promised to bring us out of that place and he succeeded for a lot of people...just not the least of us.  

If I am hearing Obama correctly, he wants to tap into that Reaganesque can-do-ism.  He wants to take us out of this dark place.  

Don't get me wrong, I'm not pleased to see this statement because I think it indicates that his thinking is too mainstreamed.  But it doesn't make me think he wants to replicate Reagan's policies.

by BooMan on Thu Jan 17th, 2008 at 01:22:02 AM EST
It's not just annoying, it's poisonous to the progressive political rationale.

I object to a man who made racism easier to hide being given the cover of this kind of unctuous praise by one of our party's standard bearers. Oh, the Republicans are going to say forever now, but if Obama could praise him, you must be exaggerating how bad he was if not outright making it up. Now he's finally got the path cleared for sainthood, let alone all those dead Guatemalans and what have you.

On policy, I thought I made it pretty clear that I object to his repetition of the criticism that government in that era had grown out of control, as it were. What he says now is going to hem him in later. Does he want to give us a better health care system? Going to be damn hard now.

The idea that government in the way Reagan meant it, the provision of public services, was excessive and intrusive is pernicious. The current security state in all its surveilling glory doesn't come in for the whipping, no, the social welfare edifices of the pre-Reagan presidents get it.

You want to see a disturbing pattern? It's how this so-called postpartisan keeps kicking left and hugging right. Let's all hope that you're right, and he's just an obfuscator, instead of that I'm right, and he's just a jerk.

by Natasha Chart (natasha.the at gmail dot com) on Thu Jan 17th, 2008 at 02:33:19 AM EST
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You have a right to object, but it is NOT progressive to twist someones words and make them out to be what they aren't!
I guess all those progressives who run his campaign like Susan Rice et al
have been fooled by Obama......these posts analyzing what Obama said, instead of reading his words verbatim, are congruent to bigdog's recent comments, desperate and over-the-top. I am sad to see this on this blog, which has been so fair about all the candidates positions.
by gaiilonfong on Thu Jan 17th, 2008 at 07:40:11 AM EST
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So fair that BooMan has declared he won't vote for Clinton because of things that came out of other people's mouths.
by Natasha Chart (natasha.the at gmail dot com) on Thu Jan 17th, 2008 at 11:00:54 AM EST
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The problem with that is that no one can really tell what these people are like until they've been in office for decent length of time (since what they tell people changes from day to day).   MY problem with Obama is not that he's a proven Republican collaborator. It's with the fact that he hasn't served long enough for us to get a good idea of his record one way or the other. In fact, I would say that part of the problem is that HE doesn't know, one way or the other, of where he stands on many issues.

He could be anybody at this point. Saint or sinner. The only thing we do know is that he seems to have charisma.  

by Bright Creature (kelpie (no spam filler) . b @ gmail . com) on Thu Jan 17th, 2008 at 02:42:41 AM EST
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Obama has more years in office than any other major candidate on the Dem side.

He has more of a record to evaluate than Hillary does!

And his record is pretty good, as these things go. He created and passed a significant campaign finance reform bill in his home state. He passed a somewhat less ambitious bill nationally, which, for all the criticism, is still more than Clinton or Edwards ever did on that subject.

He passed a healthcare bill that, while weaker than what he wanted, was still a significant step forward, when he was in his state legislature. Again, that's more than Hillary accomplished when she had the full power of the presidency behind her.

Of all of them, Obama actually has the most legislatively progressive record.

But you wouldn't know that, listening to the shallow press, or, sadly, to a lot of bloggers who don't do any research of their own.

"If you look for the social economic motive, you will not have to wait for history to tell you what was propaganda and what was truth." - George Seldes

by Real History Lisa (lpeaseRemoveThis@gte.net) on Thu Jan 17th, 2008 at 09:13:29 AM EST
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Another big endorsement for Obama.

TPM Greg Sargent reporting Senator Patrick Leahy, (D-VT) to endorse Obama today.

"That's a big endorsement for Obama -- he's a major liberal standard bearer who's been in the Senate for over three decades. More in a bit."

Well, "You can't vote for war and disown the results"

by idredit on Thu Jan 17th, 2008 at 11:09:36 AM EST
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Thanks, for the clarification, Lisa.I wasn't aware of that
by Bright Creature (kelpie (no spam filler) . b @ gmail . com) on Sun Jan 20th, 2008 at 02:42:54 AM EST
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Thanks. Happy to help. Research is what I do!

"If you look for the social economic motive, you will not have to wait for history to tell you what was propaganda and what was truth." - George Seldes
by Real History Lisa (lpeaseRemoveThis@gte.net) on Sun Jan 20th, 2008 at 04:48:04 AM EST
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a perfect candidate, you'll not find.

Clinton accused Obama of being "too liberal." I suggest you read the whole interview, Again.  Also my comment (down thread) with links to Obama, A liberal Reagan that may shed some light.

Well, "You can't vote for war and disown the results"

by idredit on Thu Jan 17th, 2008 at 11:21:04 AM EST
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I agree. Obama wants to be the New Inspirational Leader that will lead us out of the awful place that we're in as a nation. That takes a special kind of leader and he is one of those. Reagan was too. I didn't like much of what Reagan did or stood for, but he did  make so much of America feel good about itself again, somehow. I was too young to really follow the politics in it all but when you speak with people of my parents' generation, they saw  so many awful events in the 60's and 70's (assasinations, scandals, recession, hyper-inflation, oil crisis, etc.) that made them think the country was coming apart at the seams. Reagan made them feel like everything's gonna be alright again.

While Obama has these same inspirational abilities that Reagan did, his policy ideas are completely opposite. What he possesses though, as Reagan did, is the ability to disarm the other side of the aisle. If he wins, we could be referring to a new animal in politics the "Obama Republicans" like Reagan created the "Reagan Democrats." While these republicans know Obama's a liberal, they're surprisingly okay with it because they know we've swung too far right as a nation and we need to clean house and fix things with progressive solutions for a while. He's the guy that they will trust to get us out of this disaster.

by RandyH on Thu Jan 17th, 2008 at 02:00:38 AM EST
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I remember Reagan. He talked about hope, morning in America, and other feel good emotions with no ideas to implement them. There was something familar about him. He gave me the creeps.

Obama isn't Reagan, but I find it troubling that he would invoke Saint Ronnie. How are we supposed to get liberals elected if we can't expose the truth of the ketchup guy? He's the guy that spent government money REMOVING solar panels from the White House.

Now that Obama did bring it up, does he see anything else in common between himself and Reagan? Why should we believe that his brand of reaching across the aisle won't be more rolling over and playing dead?

Land of the watched, because of the cowed.

by hens teeth on Thu Jan 17th, 2008 at 12:21:12 PM EST
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Amen. Thanks BooMan

some consider Obama to be A Liberal Reagan hence his appeal among Reagan Democrats, Independents and conservatives.  Bring them home Obama.

Sullivan, The Daily Dish, A liberal Reagan?

"From the content and structure of Obama's pitch to the base, it's also clear to me that whatever illusions I had about his small-c conservatism, he's a big government liberal with - for a liberal - the most attractive persona and best-developed arguments since JFK.

I fear he could do to conservatism what Reagan did to liberalism. And just as liberals deserved a shellacking in 1980, so do "conservatives" today. In the Bush era, they have shown their own contempt for their own tradition. Who can blame Obama for exploiting the big government arguments Bush has already conceded?"

And just as Carter branded liberalism in a bad way for a generation, so Bush and his acolytes have poisoned the brand of conservatism for the foreseeable future. When you take a few steps back and look closely, you realize that Bush has managed both to betray conservatism and stigmatize it all at once. That's some achievement.[.]

Obama is no lieberdem. Perhaps a misunderstanding of the parallel points Obama was airing. Re-read his position papers and examine his record. He does not shill for the GOP. Unlike Lieberman who is a Republican from surface to bones.  

WSJ via Thinkprogress has this: McCain may select Lieberman as VP.

Will Lieberman give up his Senate seat unlike when he ran with Gore?

Well, "You can't vote for war and disown the results"

by idredit on Thu Jan 17th, 2008 at 10:40:02 AM EST
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I fear he could do to conservatism what Reagan did to liberalism.

I just want to re-emphasize this to say: just what the hell would be WRONG with this???? I say, hell yeah! He's not praising Reagan; he's just pointing what he did and how.

I'm sorry, but progressives/liberals suck when it comes to the narrative. People don't see themselves in statistics...they see themselves in STORIES. They like to see themselves in an optimistic light. Can it be bullshit sometimes? Yes. Does it work? YES.

Please tell me what is so wrong with Obama using the Reagan playbook?

IMO, it's cosmic payback.

Can't hear ya, Peach!

by AP on Thu Jan 17th, 2008 at 02:48:11 PM EST
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