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The Big Over Easy: A Nursery Crime
by Jasper Fforde

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Physics for Future Presidents: The Science behind the Headlines
Richard A. Muller

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Dark Ages America: The Final Phase of Empire
by Morris Berman.

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Team of Rivals: The Political Genius of Abraham Lincoln
by Doris Kearns Goodwin

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Unequal Sisters: A Multicultural Reader in U.S. Women's History (Third Edition)


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What I am hearing all around me is that the best way to be a peace president is to surround himself with people whose foreign policy tool of choice is military violence. I have another take on it. Obama never was and never will be a peace president.

As for the Israel thing, please name one person he has chosen so far or is likely to choose whose connection with the Middle East does not run straight through Tel Aviv. Name one "Middle East expert" he has consulted whose sole interest in the Middle East does not center around Israel. Name one Arab-American of any description whom he has chosen or is likely choose to serve in his administration IN ANY CAPACITY (except, perhaps, mopping the floors). Never mind that, name one person he has chosen or is likely to choose who can be expected to EVER speak up for the Palestinians or the Arabs.

I'm not seeing a balancing act here.

And having said that, given the disastrous results every single time a U.S. administration has involved themselves, the best thing Obama or any other American president can do is to stay completely out of the Israel-Palestine thing, and leave it to others who have already proven more capable of bringing about acceptable results.

by Hurria (Muslawia@gmail.com) on Sat Nov 29th, 2008 at 02:26:15 PM EST
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Jim Jones, for one, has a good working relationship with the Palestinians.  He hasn't rolled out his foreign policy team yet, so I can't speculate about lower level positions.  But insofar as there is any pro-Arab element in our permagov, it comes through the Realist School. A corrupt pro-Saudi group, for sure, but about all we have to work with on the other side of the aisle.  

And I doubt there are more than 10 pro-Arab Democrats in Congress.

This country, even before 9/11, was relentlessly pro-Israel and only becomes more so when things like Mumbai come off.  

To change it to a more balanced goal-oriented policy, you must work with this reality.

by BooMan on Sat Nov 29th, 2008 at 02:42:07 PM EST
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Well, I do not expect U.S. Middle East policy to change with Obama and I never did. I repeat that the very best thing that the United States can do for everyone in the Middle East is to stay out of it. Just in the last year other parties have proven themselves far more capable of helping things move in a positive direction.

And in any case, nothing will change until Israelis give up their territorial/regional military dominance ambitions, and stop trying to destroy the Palestinian people. The Israelis know very well what they need to do to bring security, and they are not yet ready to do it.  

by Hurria (Muslawia@gmail.com) on Sat Nov 29th, 2008 at 02:59:17 PM EST
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I don't know Jim Jones, but a good working relationship with the Palestinians usually means a good working relationship on behalf of Israel with the corrupt collaborationist thugs of Fatah, who would sell their mothers for the right price.
by Hurria (Muslawia@gmail.com) on Sat Nov 29th, 2008 at 03:01:11 PM EST
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you know of anyone else ready to work us to get an administrative government back up and running?  There ought to be a little realism mixed-in with your criticism.

I know the PA has been dismantled.  But a precondition of self-government is having one.

by BooMan on Sat Nov 29th, 2008 at 03:08:49 PM EST
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BooMan, I do defer to you in matters of American politics, but when "realism" says things like "in order to bring peace Obama needs to speak in a hawkish manner and surround himself with well-know proponents of military and other forms of coercion" (aka hawks), it is difficult for a simple-minded empiricist like me to grasp just how that is supposed to work. That sounds like Alice in Wonderland thinking to me.

The PA was a corrupt bunch of collaborationist thugs primarily looking after their own self-interest. It was, furthermore, dismantled, along with its governing infrastructure, in a most brutal and systematic manner by the Israelis themselves, who, Kafka-like, "punished" the PA for its alleged inability to effectively govern (in the face of overwhelming odds) by intentionally and violently depriving them of the means to do so. For example, every time the PA "failed to prevent" an attack against the Israeli occupation, the Israeli military would bomb to the ground more of the PA's enforcement facilities.

As for your rather patronizing comment about the precondition for self-government, how can the Palestinians have an effective government when Israel cripples their democratically elected government by, starting immediately after the election, detaining or murdering any government official whom Israel does not like, and by deliberately destroying the physical, economic, and social infrastructure that is necessary to govern? And how can the Palestinians be expected to exercise democracy when they are punished for choosing the "wrong" people?

by Hurria (Muslawia@gmail.com) on Sat Nov 29th, 2008 at 03:35:35 PM EST
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For the last eight years our country has been run by people who opposed Madrid, opposed Oslo, and opposed Camp David.  They ran this country as Netanyahu would have wished.  Included in this, was a policy of standing by while the Israeli government destroyed the progress made under Oslo.

But now we have a new chapter.  No Democratic administration (and most Republican ones) would not have governed as we have over the last eight years.  Obama is no different.  

The key problem is the same as the one faced by Poppy and Clinton at the beginning of this process...no functioning Palestinian government to hand things over to.  

Jim Jones has been working on that problem, and that is why he knows the issues and has no time for more of the same.  

Set aside the elections that brought Hamas to power.  That was one more instance of neo-conservatives having reality destroy their theories.  Set aside that Fatah has a corrupt and somewhat collarberationist history.

That's in the past.  

The future must involve recreating the conditions for a Palestinian takeover of governance, and it also has to be done in a way that faces the reality of American and Israeli politics.  Presidential leadership is the indispensable ingredient in this, and we have to accept that almost two decades have been wasted as a result of the damage Sharon and Bush did to the process that was established in the 1990's.  

Hamas' rise was a reaction to that, but it can't be much as far as being a solution.  That is because of the political reality part of the equation.  Fatah is the only partner that is usable.  

by BooMan on Sat Nov 29th, 2008 at 04:24:31 PM EST
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Should read:

No Democratic administration (and most Republican ones) would not have governed as we have over the last eight years.  Obama is no different.  

by BooMan on Sat Nov 29th, 2008 at 04:28:19 PM EST
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BooMan, Oslo was dead well before George W. Bush came along. In any case, it was a sellout of the Palestinians, and it did not fail, it had exactly the results the Israelis and their supporters intended. It was a great success for Israel and a disaster for the Palestinians, just as it was intended to be. Many of us, including far better people than I, recognized that reality from the beginning and never supported Oslo. (And by the way, if you have not read Hanan Ashrawi's book you should do so. It clarifies a lot. What a shame she has been so sidelined.)

The success of Hamas in the elections had everything to do with Palestinians looking for an alternative - any alternative - to the thuggish, corrupt Fatah collaborators, who had always served themselves and their U.S. and Israeli masters far more than they had the Palestinians. That, and not Bush's failure to support the already-long-dead Oslo and other phony "peace processes", was the reason that so many, including large numbers of secular and Christian Palestinians, preferred to vote for Hamas.

"Fatah is the only partner that is useful"? Useful to whom? Certainly not to the Palestinians, and they have not been ever since they discovered how to feather their own nests with "peace process" after "peace process".

And what useful partner have the Palestinians EVER had in Israel (or, heaven forbid, the U.S.)? None, of course, because Israel's long-term goal is as it has always been, to cause the Palestinians to slowly but surely disappear, and the U.S. has never seriously challenged Israel's right to pursue that goal. Those Palestinians are so stubborn, though aren't they? The old die, but the young do not forget, and they have sumud. They do not give up.

Sooner or later Israel will have to talk to Hamas, and the sooner the United States gets its fingers completely out of the pot and allows better-suited parties to move in the sooner this will happen. The best thing Obama could do would be to stop the pretense that the U.S. is any kind of "honest broker" and let those take over who can honestly and with integrity support the rights and interests of both parties, and put real, genuine pressure on Israel to seek peace rather than more and more and more conquest.

The Palestinians have been ready for decades. The Arab League has for six years been offering Israel everything it claims it wants, and for six years Israel has been refusing to even discuss it. Syria has shown willingness to make peace since Hafez Al Asad's time, and Israel has demonstrated clearly that illegally holding onto someone else's territory means more to it than peace. So, it is not Israel and the U.S. that do not have a useful partner.

by Hurria (Muslawia@gmail.com) on Sat Nov 29th, 2008 at 05:12:28 PM EST
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It's sad to see how low of an opinion you have of people.  Things are not so bleak as you think, and they are not so bleak because people are not so bad.  
by BooMan on Sat Nov 29th, 2008 at 08:30:13 PM EST
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I don't know how all you managed to get out of everything I said is that I have a low opinion of people. That hardly is an adequate or even an accurate summary.
by Hurria (Muslawia@gmail.com) on Sat Nov 29th, 2008 at 08:56:05 PM EST
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PS Mumbai was almost certainly the doing of an Indian group. Neither the Palestinians nor Arabs had anything to do with it. And yet they WILL be punished for it, if not directly, then indirectly.
by Hurria (Muslawia@gmail.com) on Sat Nov 29th, 2008 at 03:06:30 PM EST
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