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No Florida or Michigan Re-Votes | 36 comments (36 topical, editorial, 0 hidden)

Re: No Florida or Michigan Re-Votes (none / 1)

can someone explain something to me

i just did a quick tour of all the news sites around the internet...every one of them has headlines something like "hillary leading" whether its leading among all dems, leading obama, leading in critical states....they are all polls, rasmussen and gallup etc....so am i supposed to think obama can survive the next few weeks of vetting and media hounding? they just got started and it looks like he is tanking...dont you think superdelegates are watching this too? superdelegates can change their minds 10 times between now and the convention....so why should clinton quit now? obama might lose pa by 30 points by the time of the primary....he may lose west virginia by more....is it so hard to consider that they both may be toast by the time of the convention? then what?

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by anna in philly (jrsygir1@aol.com) on Thu Mar 20th, 2008 at 06:06:20 PM EST

Re: No Florida or Michigan Re-Votes (none / 0)

Go to www.realclearpolitics.com. I've been watching it every day. His overall lead in the polls in the last two days went from 0.8% to 3%.

The media is making a problem where none appears to be.

He's on his way to the 5% bump I predicted. We should see that as early as tomorrow.

"If you look for the social economic motive, you will not have to wait for history to tell you what was propaganda and what was truth." - George Seldes

by Real History Lisa (lpeaseRemoveThis@gte.net) on Thu Mar 20th, 2008 at 06:39:36 PM EST
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Re: No Florida or Michigan Re-Votes (none / 0)

what about gallop and rasmussen?

there are a lot of polls....i dont just want to read the ones that give me the outcome i prefer...i want the truth.

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by anna in philly (jrsygir1@aol.com) on Thu Mar 20th, 2008 at 09:56:32 PM EST
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Re: No Florida or Michigan Re-Votes (none / 0)

ok i went there

the largest and most recent poll is gallup and he is down 48 to 43 ....to me this is the most accurate poll because it comes after the speech and has the highest number of respondents by far.

the rcp average of all polls has him up by 3 but that goes back to the 13th, before the speech and the wright crap. i dont find that an accurate picture.

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by anna in philly (jrsygir1@aol.com) on Thu Mar 20th, 2008 at 10:54:09 PM EST
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Re: No Florida or Michigan Re-Votes (none / 0)

I think you have to wait for multiple post-speech polls to be available.

by CabinGirl on Thu Mar 20th, 2008 at 10:56:29 PM EST
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Re: No Florida or Michigan Re-Votes (none / 0)

Also, polls fluctuate. Public opinion is notoriously fickle. Yes, Obama was down a bit last week over the whole Wright thing. But his polls didn't drop instantly as soon as it broke, did they? They dropped over the course of a few days, as more people heard about it. The positive effects of his speeches will play out similarly - gradually building up his polls again as more and more people hear about them.

Scandals also seem to go in cycles. Last week, it was Obama and his "Damn America!" Reverend. This week, it's Hillary Clinton's lies about her NAFTA work, Bill Clinton's ties with Wright, and McCain's ignorance of foreign affairs.

An important thing to note is that the opinion polls haven't really moved. While Hillary might be up in electoral polls, she's still far down in opinion polls, which means that her gain in support is fleeting, not a real, solid gain.

Kill because somebody was killed. Get killed because he killed. Do you think peace will ever come like that?

by Egarwaen on Thu Mar 20th, 2008 at 11:15:09 PM EST
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Re: No Florida or Michigan Re-Votes (none / 0)

Hey, the big winner in all this is going to be McCain, with Nurse Lieberman standing by his side to help cover up his mistakes.

by CabinGirl on Thu Mar 20th, 2008 at 07:38:22 PM EST
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Re: No Florida or Michigan Re-Votes (none / 0)

Anna, my dear, all I want to say is Hillery is not the one we all want to be our president. I have never wanted her for that. I am a poster here and have always wanted the most strong democrat to do that which is what we all need done now. It is very imperative that we need to win this election and it has to be this year. I was willing to vote for her and hold my nose, but now, now! I am an independent democratic leaning person. How can you change my mind now that I see her sending the middle finger to me for I am not in her camp like you and many others are that tear the other candidate down. I thought you all were democrats. I am serious. What in the name of saving our country is she trying to do. I used to go to other progressive sites to read and I find I am being left out yet again by the democrats. I am so sick of this rumbling and tearing the dems down, that I think I will sit this election out if she is allowed to win with this nonsense. For me she is not qualified to be my president...that is it...plain and simple. She has not earned any thing that makes me trust her more than anyone else. I do not respect her in the least! She has failed in many aspects of her life and I do not let that go by my nose with out the smell test...hope you get my drift.
The dlc is not my kind of ppl and should not be any of our kind of ppl. As far as I know we all are hard working ppl that pay taxes and do not know any millionaires...Anyhow....why do not you go to no quarter. or other places that think she is the only one qualified. They simply do not give us credit for having our own thoughts on things...They want to dictate the conversation on why the other candidate is not qualified but can not really give her qualifications out for debate, lest they remove you from their friendships. I am so ashamed of ppl like this. Now I remember why I have not liked politics, ever.

We do have to look at this through the realistic views of all things considered. Frankly I am sick to death of bill and all of his cronies. I really am! Now can you change my mind..you and all the rest of her followers......convince me she is the best....It will be a hard sell I can definitely tell you right now. So go for it girl...

by BrendaStewart (stormyweather1@hotmail.com) on Thu Mar 20th, 2008 at 07:46:27 PM EST
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Re: No Florida or Michigan Re-Votes (none / 0)

im not in the hillary camp

i wanted edwards....i voted for hillary after i saw the pileon....ill vote for either...ill vote for any democrat....ill vote for option number 3 if there is one after the mess that looks to be the convention....im asking valid questions....no quarter is just as disgusting as dk....bt is less so....but there is also plenty at no quarter and taylor marsh etc that makes sense...there is nothing to be gained by limiting myself to only the narrative on one site or another because as far as im concerned they all have serious flaws and none of them reflect the reality and the whole picture....what i dont want to hear are double standards and spin and im perfectly capable of sorting thru them....im open to changing my mind...im definitely willing to wait till the convention to see what shakes out...absolutely anything can happen.

so can someone answer my question?

Edible panties taste like crap.

by anna in philly (jrsygir1@aol.com) on Thu Mar 20th, 2008 at 09:49:05 PM EST
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Re: No Florida or Michigan Re-Votes (none / 0)

Anna, Hillary isn't winning in popular votes. She's not winning in states won. And she's not winning in the number of delegates won.

I suspect that the people who own the media want to have another friend like Clinton in the White House and will do whatever they can to make her the winner. I don't think that they can.

I just googled and found an article "New Polls Have Hillary Winning It All." It was posted on HillaryClintonNews on May 9, 2007.

by Bob In Pacifica on Thu Mar 20th, 2008 at 09:32:08 PM EST
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Re: No Florida or Michigan Re-Votes (none / 0)

i know what the numbers are....im asking what about the new polls that come out every day and will continue to come out....what if they indicate obama is tanking? seriously....do you think this cant happen? people voting in january dont have the same info as people voting in june....as much as i loved obamas speech, a lot of people didnt buy it....a lot of people are completely turned off by him....just like a lot of people are completely turned off by clinton....i used to think it didnt matter who we nominated, a dem would win anyway because of how bad the repubs were doing.....all the new people brought into the process...the many many dems voting in the primary as dems than repubs....but i dont know any more....how is it possible mccain is doing as well as he is against either dem in the polls...to me it shows we are possibly picking the wrong candidate...and we have till the convention to get it right.

Edible panties taste like crap.

by anna in philly (jrsygir1@aol.com) on Thu Mar 20th, 2008 at 09:55:07 PM EST
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Re: No Florida or Michigan Re-Votes (none / 0)

Anna,

this is JUST my opinion..but im positive that the msm press is trying to ropa dope us. They are doing just like they did at the 2000 presidential debates..when Gore sounded like an intelligent man and Bush sounded like a 13 yr old trying his hand at debates for the first time "for the fun of it." The press couldn't stop cooing over how they finally had a pres they could drink with. Toward Gore they couldn't stop talking about his sighs and they completely ignored all the good points he was scoring over mr Bush. Now they are cooing all over McCain.. even though Lieberman had to publicly correct the "foreign affair wise " candidate's foreign affair knowledge on msm TV.

From all we've seen we know the MSM is not our friend.. and the general election is a long way away. I expect to see -a lot- of slanted and misleading polls.

by Bright Creature (kelpie (no spam filler) . b @ gmail . com) on Thu Mar 20th, 2008 at 10:37:56 PM EST
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Re: No Florida or Michigan Re-Votes (none / 1)

Once you understand how the MSM actually does have an agenda and how it blossoms then you start recognizing the scent.

Here's the formula: A (faux) scandal over (fill in the blank; in this case angry black America-hating preacher) times the amount of media hand-wringing + instant polls indicating something (generally the diminishment of a political figure who somehow threatens the oligarchy) equals A Media Truth.

by Bob In Pacifica on Fri Mar 21st, 2008 at 11:43:40 AM EST
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Re: No Florida or Michigan Re-Votes (none / 0)

Here's an interesting poll question:

by RandyH on Thu Mar 20th, 2008 at 09:35:41 PM EST
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