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The Case Against More Campaigning | 24 comments (24 topical, editorial, 0 hidden)

Re: The Case Against More Campaigning (none / 1)

no backroom deal...and on the fight to seat Fl and MI, Obama has an edge: The Math. It comes back to the math.

Donna Brazille, ex Gore campaign manager, on ABC's This Week

(Watch Video, via TPM)

Brazile Explains Credentials Committee

Donna Brazile was on This Week this morning and explained how the credentials committee works. If she's right, and I'm sure Brazile knows this stuff like the back of her hand, it's even worse for Clinton than I thought. According to Brazile, in addition to the twenty-five members of the Committee appointed by Howard Dean, the rest of the committee will be made up of 3 members apiece from each state. In other words, it works sort of like the senate, where all states are counted equally, regardless of their size. Since Obama has won far more states than Clinton, that should mean he has a decisive majority on the credentials committee.

Well, "You can't vote for war and disown the results"

by idredit on Sun Mar 30th, 2008 at 03:41:18 PM EST
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Re: The Case Against More Campaigning (none / 0)

Again, that's not the point I was trying to make. I think it is very likely that Obama will be our nominee no matter what happens between now and the convention. The question is, what shape will he be in going into the general against McCain?

And even if Hillary manages to secure the nomination, by whatever circumstances, what shape will she be in by then? If she wins by assassinating Obama, or by some deal at the convention, any speck of legitimacy her campaign may still have will be gone.

In either case, our candidate goes into the fall campaign bloodied and bowed, while McCain has all summer to gain strength unopposed. That is not good for either candidate. It's not good for our party. It's not good for our nation or the world.

The super delegates should make clear to both campaigns that any further attacks on each other are an automatic disqualification. Period. They should make clear to each campaign that the real enemy is St. McCain and four more years of Bush, and that is where all our effort should be focused.

Have I ever told you about my poor memory?

by ignorant bystander on Sun Mar 30th, 2008 at 04:16:46 PM EST
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Re: The Case Against More Campaigning (none / 0)

we've been too much at hand wringing about super -delegates, the re-vote for FL and MI; whether Obama is being damaged, whether McCain will win.
We're over-estimating the McCain campaign. He's breaking the cardinal rule in politics: don't peak too early. McCain has began the general election campaign, airing ads. Fatigue will set in. Gawd 9 months to go!

"If she wins by assassinating Obama, or by some deal at the convention, any speck of legitimacy her campaign may still have will be gone.

Again I repeat, there'll be no deal at the convention - back room or otherwise. The rules were broken. That's the point of my comment.

My comment above was to throw light on little known facts of the inner workings of DNC - what actually happens in the credentials committee - the controversy over FL and MI b/c when those states are seated and they'll be seated and the votes counted, "will impact the outcome no matter what happens between now and Denver.

You have over 800 uncommitted super delegates and as of now Obama leads less than 175 pledged delegates. That's hardly a comfortable lead. SO it's good to know he has an edge on the Credentials Committee.

Clinton, at 1248 plus 245 super-delegates, won't throw in the towel. She's counting on super-delegates who are indebted to the family and are afraid to piss off the Clinton machine.

Obama will be fine, win or loose. His star time chart shines bright.

While I root for Obama, what awaits the next president is troubling - from ugly shitpile crisis to uglier shitpile crisis - cleaning up after the Clinton-Bush years.

Well, "You can't vote for war and disown the results"

by idredit on Sun Mar 30th, 2008 at 05:56:15 PM EST
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