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Obama Strikes Back | 46 comments (46 topical, editorial, 0 hidden)

It is amazing. (none / 0)

It's amazing that this guy who's touted as an "orator" can't speak without a script.

Watch it again. And listen to the halting delivery. He's reading.

I want a leader who can look me in the eye and tell me what he thinks without reading a prepared text. This is why Obama did poorly in the debates and why I worry about his ability to communicate with world leaders. Is he gonna bring a speechwriter to meetings with heads-of-state?

by Ed J on Fri May 16th, 2008 at 03:37:11 PM EST

Tell me... (none / 1)

When was the last time we had a president who could give a speech without prepared text? I'm 35 and I know for a fact we haven't had one in my lifetime. Now I'm interested in finding out who was the last president who gave speeches without written text?

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by fabooj (fabooj [at} mail [dot} com) on Fri May 16th, 2008 at 03:46:26 PM EST
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My point exactly. (none / 1)

Obama's just another politician.

by Ed J on Fri May 16th, 2008 at 04:03:29 PM EST
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Re: My point exactly. (none / 0)

You WOULD say that.

"If you look for the social economic motive, you will not have to wait for history to tell you what was propaganda and what was truth." - George Seldes

by Real History Lisa (lpeaseRemoveThis@gte.net) on Fri May 16th, 2008 at 04:04:59 PM EST
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Re: My point exactly. (none / 0)

noookelar, you prefer that?

we all are politicians.... every day.

Well, "You can't vote for war and disown the results"

by idredit on Fri May 16th, 2008 at 04:20:34 PM EST
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Of course he's a politician (none / 0)

Is he supposed to be something else? What exactly where you expecting?

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by fabooj (fabooj [at} mail [dot} com) on Fri May 16th, 2008 at 05:22:43 PM EST
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What was I expecting? (none / 1)

"Change".

by Ed J on Fri May 16th, 2008 at 07:23:51 PM EST
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Ah (none / 0)

You're either naive or haven't been paying attention. More likely though, you're just being an ass for the sake of being an ass.

Ass usual.

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by fabooj (fabooj [at} mail [dot} com) on Fri May 16th, 2008 at 07:39:27 PM EST
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Eloquent. n/t (none / 1)

by Ed J on Fri May 16th, 2008 at 07:55:13 PM EST
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Thanks (none / 0)

But not really.

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by fabooj (fabooj [at} mail [dot} com) on Fri May 16th, 2008 at 08:16:52 PM EST
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Re: Tell me... (none / 0)

Your question intrigued me so I did a google search and found this
I would like to see them give speeches without text at least on some occasions.

The Power of Speech
by Lory Hough and Aine Cryts
"Hillary Rodham Clinton also has a knack for the personal, says Laura Schiller, one of her former speechwriters.
“One of the reasons, ironically, that all of us loved working for her was that she didn’t need speechwriting. She had such a good sense of what she wanted to say,” Schiller says. “We were there to help her, but you knew she’d be fine on her own.”
Like the first lady, Schiller says that President Clinton “could probably say it better off the top of his head than anyone could write it. He’s a brilliant orator who has a way of taking words off of the page and connecting with an audience. Any audience. There aren’t many people who can connect like Bill Clinton.”
Likened to a “jazz improviser” who “riffs all over the place,” Clinton is famous for his sermonlike speeches. “A pulpit in a black church brings out the best in Clinton,” wrote Nixon speechwriter William Safire in the New York Times.
Politics brought out the best in John Kennedy, whose “Ask Not” speech galvanized a generation to go into public service. Ted Sorensen IOP 2003 served as Kennedy’s chief counsel. Aside from set occasions like the State of the Union or the Democratic Convention, he says that Kennedy usually ad-libbed entire speeches, especially on the campaign trail.
“He was a very articulate man,” Sorensen says, adding, “I’m proud of the role that I played in many of his speeches, but President Kennedy authored all of them.”

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by diane101 (dianed101 @ yahoo.com) on Fri May 16th, 2008 at 04:17:40 PM EST
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Re: Tell me... (none / 0)

That's cool. I've always been impressed in debates how easily she can talk about any subject.

"If you look for the social economic motive, you will not have to wait for history to tell you what was propaganda and what was truth." - George Seldes

by Real History Lisa (lpeaseRemoveThis@gte.net) on Fri May 16th, 2008 at 05:32:46 PM EST
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Re: Tell me... (none / 0)

A good speechwriter will always say that their principal/client/boss doesn't need one. If I ever read about a speechwriter talk about how brilliant s/he is, I'd slap them. You're not supposed to bring attention to yourself.

That said, one should be able to speak extemporaneously, too. Sometimes, events dictate it, like RFK announcing Dr. King's assassination in Indiana. It's brilliant.

I'll tell you a book I just cannot wait to get my hands on--Ted Sorensen's Counselor: A Life at the Edge of History. That should be a good one.

Presumptuous is the new uppity.

by AP on Fri May 16th, 2008 at 06:20:23 PM EST
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Re: It is amazing. (none / 0)

It's probably because he's more than twice the speaker of any of his opponents. That or the fact that he's demonstrably moved millions of people with his words and delivery. His delivery may not work for you, but quite obviously yours is the minority opinion on that one.

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by KMc (http://www.kellymccullough.com/mail.html) on Fri May 16th, 2008 at 03:52:36 PM EST
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Re: It is amazing. (none / 0)

Boo, just remember that I called it way back when.

"If you look for the social economic motive, you will not have to wait for history to tell you what was propaganda and what was truth." - George Seldes

by Real History Lisa (lpeaseRemoveThis@gte.net) on Fri May 16th, 2008 at 04:06:00 PM EST
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Re: It is amazing. (none / 0)

Um... yeah.
Presidents, and a whole variety of other public figures, use notes for their speeches all the time: that's why they're called "prepared remarks".

Although many presidents write their own speeches in full or in part, most have speechwriters. Bill Clinton employed Ted Widmer (who used to rock with the Upper Crust before going to DC.

I want a leader who can look me in the eye and tell me what he thinks without reading a prepared text.

Umm, Ed? Have you ever hear of the tele-prompter?

John Mccain Called his wife WHAT??

by brendan on Fri May 16th, 2008 at 04:08:11 PM EST
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Re: It is amazing. (none / 0)

People read speeches all the time. And your point would be...what?

This was a town hall Q&A, where he looked people straight in the eye answered their questions directly.

Again, your point would be...what?

Is he gonna bring a speechwriter to meetings with heads-of-state? This is concern troll territory. Barack Obama is an educated man who actually earned his degrees, unlike others who had daddy pay for them. And I'll remind you that he put together a campaign from scratch as opposed to relying on a 15 year old machine to do the hard work required. And said campaign has out-organized, out-fundraised and just plain out-worked the others.

So while your concern is touching, I think President Obama will manage just fine.

Presumptuous is the new uppity.

by AP on Fri May 16th, 2008 at 04:12:16 PM EST
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Re: It is amazing. (none / 1)

The concern trolls seem to be out in force today. Perhaps it's the weather?

Kill because somebody was killed. Get killed because he killed. Do you think peace will ever come like that?

by Egarwaen on Fri May 16th, 2008 at 04:23:33 PM EST
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Re: It is amazing. (none / 0)

Must be the rain.

Presumptuous is the new uppity.

by AP on Fri May 16th, 2008 at 06:22:40 PM EST
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Re: It is amazing. (none / 0)

Questioning groupthink. So bad, bad, baaaad.

Green Grass and High Tides Forever

by supersoling (colorsplash62@optonline.net) on Fri May 16th, 2008 at 10:51:52 PM EST
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Re: It is amazing. (none / 0)

I want a leader that thinks carefully about his words and doesn't just go spouting off like McCain did yesterday. Or when he spouted off about "bomb, bomb, bomb Iran" which fulfilled your requirement of being straight-from-the-heart but was certainly not a diplomatic or mature statement for such a man of such importance to make. Nor was it good when Hillary spouted off about "annihilating" the Persian people. No. We do not need to choose the next President based on whether he or she will utter the basest of emotion without thought.

I think it's entirely appropriate to choose words carefully when the Democratic nominee is talking about such a subject as America's #1 enemy and the possibility of waging yet more war. The last thing we need is all four of our America's most well-known leaders spouting off about "annihilating" Iran, or making a joke about bombing them, or calling them the axis of evil. I guess Obama is considered the "dove" because he is only calling Iran #1 threat to world peace.

But at least Obama thought about his statements a little bit more. I'll give him that bit of credit.

by SFHawkguy on Fri May 16th, 2008 at 04:37:02 PM EST
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Re: It is amazing. (none / 1)

Right E.J. I want original lines from Clinton like "Change You Can Xerox."

by Cee on Fri May 16th, 2008 at 04:46:47 PM EST
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