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Blaming Anyone But Herself | 16 comments (16 topical, editorial, 0 hidden)

Re: Blaming Anyone But Herself (none / 0)

On March 3rd I said this:

Any further campaigning after tomorrow will be nothing more than a 'prolonged squawk'.

Dana Milbank got around to making the same point on May 14th.

Customer: (Takes parrot from cage, bangs its head on counter, lets it drop to floor.) "Now, that's what I call a dead parrot."
Pet-shop owner: "No, he's stunned! . . . You stunned him, just as he was wakin' up! Norwegian blues stun easily, Major."

Seems like and extra two months and two weeks was unnecessary to make the diagnosis.

by BooMan on Sat May 17th, 2008 at 10:44:05 AM EST
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Re: Blaming Anyone But Herself (none / 0)

Well, on the other hand, I think being in the primary during Pastorgate might have helped to insulate him quite a bit at the time. The Republicans didn't really go after him, and, while Clinton later decided to push it with the superdelegates and in a few interviews, she generally left Obama to deal with it -- likely, in my view, because she figured he might sink himself by saying something very stupid.

So I'm not of the opinion that continuing through Penn was without any benefits. He was able to pull his numbers back up and make it single-digits. His GE numbers came back, too.

Thinking about it that way, the press probably knew it was still over after Penn, but needed Obama to do something unexpected in order to slam the door shut. The photo-finish in Indiana and blowout in NC did that.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to you country.

by Drew J Jones (blahblahblah@blahblahblah.com) on Sat May 17th, 2008 at 11:16:28 AM EST
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Re: Blaming Anyone But Herself (none / 0)

There have been huge benefits to having a competitive primary. Mainly, it has allowed the campaigns to boost registration dramatically, and to identify their voters in nearly every county in the country. It's also kept McCain out of the news and inoculated Obama against a lot of attacks.

But let's not kid ourselves that there hasn't been needless damage too. Especially post-Pennsylvania, this has been a matter of diminishing returns. Obama is spending money and time in places where he doesn't need to be spending money and time. And he is having to fight off a sustained attempt to alienate him from Hillary's core supporters and from white rural voters. That's not helpful.

by BooMan on Sat May 17th, 2008 at 11:56:29 AM EST
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spending money (none / 0)

spending money spending money spending money spending money spending money spending money spending money spending money spending money spending money spending money spending money.

this is this. this is not something else. this is this.

there is no such thing as history. there are only historians.

by S2 on Sat May 17th, 2008 at 12:01:25 PM EST
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Re: Blaming Anyone But Herself (none / 0)

Oh, I quite agree. I think we're well past the point at which this becomes more damaging than helpful, but I also think we're past the point at which anybody cares about Hillary Clinton. (Note that she's been completely shut out from the Obama vs Bush/McCain fight now.) The only contest, at this point, that might be in doubt is Puerto Rico, and I really don't think anybody's going to be paying attention to that.

Obama's going to give his Tuesday speech in Iowa. He's already well past the primaries. And, fortunately, two of the remaining primaries -- Montana and South Dakota -- are in states where he conceivably has a chance to beat McCain. (Both states showed Obama within the MoE last I looked.) Nobody's going to care about Kentucky. So whatever damage Hillary might hope to do is minimal at this point.

I'm simply saying that, on the one big crisis Obama has faced, I think the primaries were helpful. In a one-on-one with St John, I think it's possible Obama would've been hammered much harder, and possible that he would've suffered more damage.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to you country.

by Drew J Jones (blahblahblah@blahblahblah.com) on Sat May 17th, 2008 at 12:08:22 PM EST
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