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Understanding Victory | 53 comments (53 topical, editorial, 0 hidden)

newly marginalized? (none / 0)

When have women not been marginalized? When Clarence Thomas was confirmed? When Alito and Roberts were confirmed? When we are told we should ignore the women's study set ? When the most sickening displays of misogyny are openly acceptable?

one what planet are women newly marginalized?

by AliceDem on Wed May 7th, 2008 at 03:08:17 PM EST

Re: newly marginalized? (none / 0)

Not women. White women with ethnic (mostly Catholic) backgrounds, that are working or lower class.

And, you're thinking about what I'm saying the wrong way. I'm not saying this group had it good or didn't face discrimination. I'm saying that their concerns (winning their vote) formed the central battleground between the two parties and that, therefore, the Democratic Party lionized their virtues of hard work, patriotism, and religious devotion, while suggesting that blacks and liberals don't work (or work hard), are not patriotic, and lack religious faith or that there is something wrong with them for lacking religious faith.

That's the kind of marginalization I experienced within the Democratic Party. Women have never been an embarrassment to the Democrats in the way that blacks and liberals have.

by BooMan on Wed May 7th, 2008 at 03:14:51 PM EST
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Re: newly marginalized? (none / 0)

"Clinton supporters" and "women" are not the same sets, no matter how often she tries to prove otherwise. Neither are "Clinton supporters" and "feminists". It is perfectly possible to be a feminist and believe that Clinton is unfit for office.

Kill because somebody was killed. Get killed because he killed. Do you think peace will ever come like that?

by Egarwaen on Wed May 7th, 2008 at 03:18:19 PM EST
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true (none / 0)

Clinton supporters and women overlap, but are distinct. But I have been truly sickened by the overt displays of misogyny in the campaign, and truly sickened by the references to Monica Lewinsky (what does that have to do with HILLARY, except to humiliate Hillary).

I started out as an Anybody but Clinton person. I am still not comfortable with her, esp. foreign policy. But I am not happy with Obama, in fact, I am more than unhappy with Obama and his U of Chicago advisors. Very unhappy.

Obama will have to reach out. The most important thing is his choice of VP. I agree that Clinton is off the table, no trust. It does not have to be a women, but it has to be someone who can appeal to women voters or at least not aleinate them.

by AliceDem on Wed May 7th, 2008 at 03:34:17 PM EST
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Re: true (none / 0)

Where has Obama displayed any misogyny at all? Give me specific example of him or Michelle, or one of their direct campaign employees. Bill's racist dog-whistle blowing is well-documented, but all I've ever seen for Obama's supposedly-rampant misogyny is vague, unsubstantiated claims.

Kill because somebody was killed. Get killed because he killed. Do you think peace will ever come like that?

by Egarwaen on Wed May 7th, 2008 at 06:06:53 PM EST
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Re: true (none / 0)

I have heard this complaint by Clinton supporters repeated without documentation. I suspect that there are a lot of Republican operatives stirring up racist and sexist shit in Dem blogs but Obama has kept a short leash on any of that bullshit coming out of his people, as opposed to some of the rampages by Clinton surrogates. If someone from MSNBC says something misogynistic there is a presumption that Obama moved, say, Chris Matthews' lips. T'aint so.

On the other hand, if you read Robert Parry, he claims that the Clinton campaign had all their oppo research: Wright, Ayers, etc., all set up back in December, which suggests that a lot of those preacher and 60s radical eruptions were all loaded in the Clinton's gun from the start of the race, er, campaign.

by Bob In Pacifica on Thu May 8th, 2008 at 12:09:39 AM EST
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PERIODICALLY (none / 0)

gets down and the claws come out

actually there are two quotes, one with PERIODICALLY getting down and another quote involving the claws coming out

that was the precise moment I turned against Obama.

He can't make any more remarks like that, well he can, but he shouldn't.

Michelle is the one who made a reference to Monica Lewinsky.

by AliceDem on Thu May 8th, 2008 at 12:18:22 AM EST
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Re: PERIODICALLY (none / 1)

Periodically is not misogynist. It means "occurring or appearing at intervals", and is a perfectly valid word to use to describe intermittent behaviour. It no more implies prejudicial things about the effect of her menstrual cycle on her thinking than saying that Hillary is a lunatic who wants to obliterate Iran.

As for Michelle's supposed misogynist attack on Monica and the whole "claws coming out" thing, got a cite?

Meanwhile, Hillary's coughed up this gem, which is, of course, totally not racist at all:

"I have a much broader base to build a winning coalition on," she said in an interview with USA TODAY. As evidence, Clinton cited an Associated Press article "that found how Sen. Obama's support among working, hard-working Americans, white Americans, is weakening again, and how whites in both states who had not completed college were supporting me."

"There's a pattern emerging here," she said.

Clinton rejected any idea that her emphasis on white voters could be interpreted as racially divisive. "These are the people you have to win if you're a Democrat in sufficient numbers to actually win the election. Everybody knows that."

So, even if I give you all three of the above, that means Obama has three counts of largely inadvertent misogynistic comments, while the Clintons have... What, a few dozen counts of blatant, deliberate, calculated racism?

Kill because somebody was killed. Get killed because he killed. Do you think peace will ever come like that?

by Egarwaen on Thu May 8th, 2008 at 08:26:25 AM EST
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Re: PERIODICALLY (none / 0)

That's what I mean. I'm in my late fifties and over my entire life I have never heard anyone ever claim that the word "periodically" was in any way misogynistic.

I recall the "out come the claws" comment. I guess that it could maybe be interpreted as a negative version of "she's a fighter." But that's the deal-breaker? That Obama said something that COULD POSSIBLY be interpreted as misogynist?

I've heard similar comments about the David Shuster "pimp" remark, who, the last I looked wasn't part of Obama's campaign. I also heard an outraged Hillary supporter who claimed that referring to Clinton's glorious victory in Florida as a "beauty contest" was misogynist.

Obama is not a misogynist. I would guess that his political record on women's issues is equal to Clinton's. I've never heard of a discussion of this, but I would think that at least some feminist Clinton supporters would have paused at her support of that religious freedom in the workplace law that the ACLU says would jeopardize a woman's right to birth control, or could end protection of women's clinics.

Alice, do you walk through your life constantly presuming the worst of every man in the world, expecting that every smile and hello is hiding some violent or degrading intention directed against women? Because that seems to be the standard applied to Obama.

And do you allow yourself to look at the math and realize that Clinton won't win? And if you do, what does that mean? How would an Obama victory be worse for women than a Clinton victory?

by Bob In Pacifica on Thu May 8th, 2008 at 09:44:47 AM EST
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Re: PERIODICALLY (none / 0)

Oh geez. I heard him make that comment and I thought the reference was to every time she loses, not her period.

I feel women who see misogny where it doesn't exist discredit me by proxy, and it irks me no end.

"If you look for the social economic motive, you will not have to wait for history to tell you what was propaganda and what was truth." - George Seldes

by Real History Lisa (lpeaseRemoveThis@gte.net) on Thu May 8th, 2008 at 10:07:26 AM EST
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Re: PERIODICALLY (none / 0)

I also have to point out that pms/getting your period is usually not the primary reproductive concern in women over 60 years of age.

by CabinGirl on Thu May 8th, 2008 at 10:25:28 AM EST
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