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Full Speed Ahead to the White House | 31 comments (31 topical, editorial, 0 hidden)

Re: Full Speed Ahead to the White House (none / 1)

"Far more likely is a deal with Obama for her to leave the race if he'll agree to pay off her campaign debt. Yet even that seems unlikely to occur in the immediate future." -- Yeah, I've seen this meme already on other blogs. Who's floating it?
I don't think it's likely at all. True, it would make life a little easier for him, but it looks like either extortion (by Hillary) or a bribe (from Obama) -- just the sort of "old politics" cynical deal that people expect Obama to reject. I know he's a pragmatist, but from today on, she can be no more than a nuisance to him, not a real threat.

by priscianus jr on Wed May 7th, 2008 at 08:21:25 AM EST

Re: Full Speed Ahead to the White House (none / 0)

The deal that he can make is something related to FL and MI. There was talk last night that the Obama camp is starting to talk about a willingness to seat some number of delegates from these states, and take this issue off the table.

They might just be seated as half-delegates. The DNC should have done this right from the start, actually - let them have their early primary, but with half of the delegates stripped.

by ericy on Wed May 7th, 2008 at 08:25:31 AM EST
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Re: Full Speed Ahead to the White House (4.00 / 2)

Strip all the supers of their votes, since it was the party leadership and not the rank-and-file that got them into this mess in the first place, and I think this might work. The punishment has to be severe enough that no one is going to try this stunt again, though. It's like the kid who gets caught with his hand in the cookie jar. You have to follow through on punishing them or the next time they figure they can live with a stern talking-to if they can endure it with a mouth full of cookie.

We have done the impossible, and that makes us mighty.

Now the real work begins.

by Omir the Storyteller (omir.the.storyteller -CAT- gmail -DOG- com) on Wed May 7th, 2008 at 09:32:21 AM EST
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Re: Full Speed Ahead to the White House (none / 0)

I had that same idea back in January. Any party officials in FLA or MI who were part of moving the primaries forward should be stripped of their official passes. Or maybe just not allowed to vote on the nomination. They are the ones who really need to be punished.

I imagine that the two violating states will get some kind of seating, but I'd make sure that the lesson is learned by all states that you fuck up your vote if you violate DNC rules.

By the way, if you start out with 109 million and you spend 5, aren't you still ahead of the game? If I spent five million I'd be five million in debt.

by Bob In Pacifica on Wed May 7th, 2008 at 11:18:49 AM EST
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Re: Full Speed Ahead to the White House (none / 0)

$5 million plus $6.4 million to compete in the two May 6 primaries.

Imho both states should be seated at the Convention and the votes split down the middle:

Clinton made a pledge not to campaign in those states in violation of DNC rules. Harold Ickes, Clinton's campaign co-chair voted in 2004 to strip delegates of voting rights if they violated party rules. He knew the rules. Clinton acknowledged MI and FL would not count.
Clinton's surrogates campaigned like crazy in FL.
Clinton did not take her name off the Michigan ballot as all the other candidates did.
Clinton should suffer some consequences for knowingly violating the rules. At the start of the campaign she knew the rules governing this contest.

Well, "You can't vote for war and disown the results"

by idredit on Wed May 7th, 2008 at 11:30:22 AM EST
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Re: Full Speed Ahead to the White House (none / 0)

Well, it doesn't have to be done by Obama, and it doesn't have to be done immediately. It could be a deal whereby the money comes from the DNC or a large donor that Obama would otherwise not accept money from, or something like that.

But you're right, it doesn't seem like his style. And at this point, I'm not sure there's any reason why he should budge. He's sitting in the catbird seat.

We have done the impossible, and that makes us mighty.

Now the real work begins.

by Omir the Storyteller (omir.the.storyteller -CAT- gmail -DOG- com) on Wed May 7th, 2008 at 09:35:16 AM EST
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Re: Full Speed Ahead to the White House (none / 1)

that's a whole pile of money. She was over $10 million in debt start of March - excluding her self loan of $5 million in February and $6.4 million
last month.

The Clinton's can afford to fund this debt - after a $109 million over 8 years. "Rich people. God Bless us" Clinton told O'Reilly.

Obama raises funds from little people $25 - $96. We have better use for these funds; the GE, the DNC needs funding, down ticket candidates.

Give the Clintons the index.

Well, "You can't vote for war and disown the results"

by idredit on Wed May 7th, 2008 at 09:36:41 AM EST
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$133M (none / 1)

You forgot to add on the $24M she only disclosed as "income over $1000".

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by fabooj (fabooj [at} mail [dot} com) on Wed May 7th, 2008 at 11:19:39 AM EST
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