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Clinton Goes Out With a Racist Whimper | 39 comments (39 topical, editorial, 0 hidden)

Re: Clinton Goes Out With a Racist Whimper (4.00 / 2)

yesterday clinton surrogate/chief strategist geoff carlin was spinning the NC shellacking as a sign of "progress" using the same line:

Garin argued that the North Carolina contest, which Obama won by 14 points, represented "progress" for Hillary because she did better among white voters there than she did in Virginia.
TPM

talk about sore losers...it's over hillary, give it up.

and, imo, it's not sad, it's the natural conclusion to one of the most divisive, and bitter campaigns in my memory, and a predictable coda.

the revolution will not be televised...

by dada on Thu May 8th, 2008 at 10:41:55 AM EST

Re: Clinton Goes Out With a Racist Whimper (none / 1)

Robert Parry at ConsortiumNews talked about Clinton's "oppo research" that they had back in December: Rev. Wright, Ayers, etc. They even have some stuff that Obama's dead mother was a Red. That should be sweet when that comes out, eh?

This suggests to me that all of these "scandals" and attempts to divide the Dems were all part of a campaign strategy before the voting started. This just suggests that, like the rest of the Clinton campaign strategy, they did it, but badly. At TPM, I think, there was a mention that last year Penn thought that Hillary would win California and get all 370 delegates. That is, he developed her campaign strategy based on Republican primary rules. There is a moral in there somewhere, and it's not the, "Gee, if we were Republicans I would have already won!" moral.

by Bob In Pacifica on Thu May 8th, 2008 at 11:00:30 AM EST
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Re: Clinton Goes Out With a Racist Whimper (none / 1)

Though it's also worth highlighting how undemocratic the Republican Primary rules (and the Electoral College rules) are. While splitting delegates has kept Clinton in the race, it's also what allowed Obama to make his come-behind victory. McCain basically won by edging out small wins in huge states and getting a massive delegate advantage from them. (Florida, Missouri, California) There's going to be a lot of pressure, from the DLC camp and others, to change the Democratic primary rules so "this can't happen again". While there's room for improvement, the principles of democracy (IE, proportional representation) must be maintained.

Kill because somebody was killed. Get killed because he killed. Do you think peace will ever come like that?

by Egarwaen on Thu May 8th, 2008 at 12:25:17 PM EST
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Re: Clinton Goes Out With a Racist Whimper (none / 1)

Agree. The reason why the Democratic primary season takes longer than the Republican primary season is because it's more democratic.

by Bob In Pacifica on Thu May 8th, 2008 at 03:02:19 PM EST
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Re: Clinton Goes Out With a Racist Whimper (none / 1)

I honestly think that with any other candidates, this debate would've been a wholly beneficial process. The only reason its been so painful is because of the Clintons' greed.

Kill because somebody was killed. Get killed because he killed. Do you think peace will ever come like that?

by Egarwaen on Thu May 8th, 2008 at 03:26:33 PM EST
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Re: Clinton Goes Out With a Racist Whimper (none / 1)

http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/05/07/i-call-a-spade-a-spade/

http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/05/07/just-a-guy-in-baracks-neighborhood/

by Cee on Thu May 8th, 2008 at 11:45:19 AM EST
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Re: Clinton Goes Out With a Racist Whimper (4.00 / 2)

that "calling a spade a spade" article is about as low as you can go. I especially enjoyed the "David Axelrod as Hitler" meme.

Talk about your unhinged, shrieking! Those people are fucking nuts, total racists, and will deserve all of the scorn that's going to be heaped on them in the next 4-8 years.

they deserve nothing more nor less than utter derision.
And I haven't even READ the second link, which I'm sure is just as bad. It's like watching an adult throw a temper tantrum.

John Mccain Called his wife WHAT??

by brendan on Thu May 8th, 2008 at 11:50:31 AM EST
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Re: Clinton Goes Out With a Racist Whimper (none / 1)

Bull Connor progressives...the new Clinton support base.

by CabinGirl on Thu May 8th, 2008 at 12:03:49 PM EST
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Re: Clinton Goes Out With a Racist Whimper (none / 0)

Ouch.

That's gonna leave a mark.

Before you win, you have to fight. Come fight along with us at TexasKaos.

by boadicea on Thu May 8th, 2008 at 01:36:25 PM EST
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I don't say that lightly (none / 1)

It's really a sad day when I see something like that No Quarter post linked above, and think that it's something I would expect from a right-wing hate site, not from a site where SusanHu is posting.

by CabinGirl on Thu May 8th, 2008 at 02:07:50 PM EST
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"...hate site..." (none / 1)

pretty well sums up what no quarter has become.

the level of vitriol and, imo, blatantly racist screeds, boggles the mind.

and frankly susanhu, has imbraced that mindset and jumped in with both feet.

the revolution will not be televised...

by dada on Thu May 8th, 2008 at 02:47:40 PM EST
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I understand (none / 1)

This primary has had too many sad moments like that with people I thought I knew.

Before you win, you have to fight. Come fight along with us at TexasKaos.

by boadicea on Thu May 8th, 2008 at 03:08:39 PM EST
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Re: I don't say that lightly (none / 1)

reading SusanHu's stuff at NQ is like looking into a diseased mind. Didn't she used to write a lot of high-quality posts at dailykos?

Every single one of her NQ posts might as well be typed entirely in capital letters with no punctuation. When I read her posts I imagine Liz Taylor in the role of "Martha" from "Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf"

versus: this, or this.

Trainwreck.

John Mccain Called his wife WHAT??

by brendan on Thu May 8th, 2008 at 03:39:08 PM EST
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Re: Clinton Goes Out With a Racist Whimper (none / 0)

Johnson may be supporting Hillary but he's still working for The Man.

by Bob In Pacifica on Thu May 8th, 2008 at 03:03:48 PM EST
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Re: Clinton Goes Out With a Racist [howl] (none / 1)

Ugh, I followed the top link but I can't finish it or I'll lose my lunch!

Not that I should be surprised, given the title chosen by the author.

Somehow, she attacks Mrs. Obama (who totally rocks IMNSHO) for having lamented, as a college senior, that other students saw her as Black first and as a student second. To the trash-talking and sexist author (sorry PaganPower, Princeton grads aren't "schoolgirl"s), MO's concern about this means:

that being black was something more important [to Michelle] than being a person.

Um, if she did her senior thesis to address the concern you (PP) quoted, uh, that means that she's promoting the idea of others treating her as a person first, hello?

(cough) On many I day I manage to prove that I can be a stoopid White girl, but even my pretty little Seven-Sister educated head is getting a notion that PaganPower is not Black. Just a guess.

PaganPower must not have checked in with the white-supremacy folks whose site Google delivered to me (not what I was looking for!) that alleged that Axelrod's (reported) Jewishness was proof that Obama was a Manchurian candidate for a scary Black-Brown-Jewish alliance out to [give their grandchildren a better chance against skin cancer] etc. etc.

Thanks Boo and Cee and all! We definitely need to keep speaking against this madness!

Peace -

by Lyrebird on Thu May 8th, 2008 at 02:18:05 PM EST
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Re: Clinton Goes Out With a Racist Whimper (none / 0)

I have been going there to raise a bit of hell. Some of the people there are as nasty as I ever saw. (Correct that: I have never seen so much hatred in my life!!!!!)

by cruz del sur (nicodk@sbcglobal.net) on Thu May 8th, 2008 at 03:27:26 PM EST
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