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Letter to the HillBloggers | 46 comments (46 topical, editorial, 0 hidden)

Re: Letter to the HillBloggers (4.00 / 3)

In addition to BooMan's point, they continue to talk about disenfranchising voters.

But what of the Obama voters who stayed home in Michigan and Florida? Are they not disenfranchised by validating results that his voters expected would not count?

No, instead, they totally, absolutely, entirely, utterly ignore this. Disenfranchisement only occurs when it's Hillary's voters. Just like the only voters that really count are whites without college degrees making less than 50,000 a year.

They are truly deranged.

by liberaljournal on Thu May 8th, 2008 at 10:02:11 PM EST

Re: Letter to the HillBloggers (4.00 / 3)

Markos told all his readers to vote for Romney in the Michigan primary as his own form of Operation Chaos. I wrote at the time that I thought that was stupid, as well as telling Ben Masel that it was dumb to vote for Dodd, as he wouldn't be viable at 15%. All Edwards and Obama voters should have showed up and voted 'uncommitted' because of just such a scenario where Clinton would seek to get the delegates counted.

Well, now that scenario has come to pass, and even the compromise solution would give Clinton a 10 delegate net advantage. But for the HillBloggers, all the people that followed Markos' advice should be disenfranchised. And so should the people that were assured by Clinton that they results wouldn't mean anything, and stayed home.

by BooMan on Thu May 8th, 2008 at 10:23:41 PM EST
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Re: Letter to the HillBloggers (none / 0)

i have a question about that : what is it with americans and not writing in their candidate of their choice?

was it prohibited in the michigan race? couldn't the obama and edwards voters write in their candidates?

when i hear people saying "i'll vote for mccain if obama is the nominee" all i can think of them is as GOP plants, but ... but ... why throw the vote to a republican if you can write in your candidate of choice anyway?

Blogueando @ culturekitchen.com

by liza (nyc.blogdiva@gmail.com) on Thu May 8th, 2008 at 10:59:37 PM EST
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Re: Letter to the HillBloggers (4.00 / 3)

Actually, in most races people are allowed to write in candidates not on the ballot. But for some reason the Michigan primary did not allow for write-ins and it was announced beforehand that any write-ins would not be counted. Weird, eh?

Clinton supporters also try to confuse the issue about why most of the Democratic candidates took their names off the Michigan ballot. I know I'm being repetitious but when they (along with Clinton) signed their pledges they agreed not to campaign or PARTICIPATE in Michigan and Florida. Edwards and Obama couldn't take their names off the Florida ballot, but they could and did take their names off the Michigan ballot. Hillary didn't. That should have been the first sign that she was who she was/is.

by Bob In Pacifica on Thu May 8th, 2008 at 11:39:03 PM EST
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Re: Letter to the HillBloggers (none / 0)

wow! isn't that unconstitutional? are primaries not counted as falling under regular voting laws?

Blogueando @ culturekitchen.com

by liza (nyc.blogdiva@gmail.com) on Thu May 8th, 2008 at 11:45:48 PM EST
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Re: Letter to the HillBloggers (4.00 / 2)

How a party chooses its candidates is an internal matter. The Constitution applies to general elections.

by Bob In Pacifica on Fri May 9th, 2008 at 12:29:09 AM EST
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We can't write-in in LA County (none / 0)

We use this system called Inka-Vote or Inka-Dot and it's basically a scantron or old-time punch card. There's no space to write in another candidate.

~~~THIS SPACE FOR RENT~~~

by fabooj (fabooj [at} mail [dot} com) on Thu May 8th, 2008 at 11:46:24 PM EST
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Re: Letter to the HillBloggers (none / 1)

Guess what?

Thanks to electronic voting, those ballots get scanned. The scanner doesn't recognize write-in votes.

You have to hope some campaign worker notices a write-in and bothers to do something about it, instead of pretending not to see and just scanning it in.

Sorry - I have no faith in our election workers. I've met some of them.

"If you look for the social economic motive, you will not have to wait for history to tell you what was propaganda and what was truth." - George Seldes

by Real History Lisa (lpeaseRemoveThis@gte.net) on Thu May 8th, 2008 at 11:50:47 PM EST
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Re: Letter to the HillBloggers (none / 0)

The electronic voting machines we have, all you do is type in a name.

I can't say much else good about them.

by Joyful Alternative on Fri May 9th, 2008 at 08:10:51 PM EST
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Re: Letter to the HillBloggers (none / 1)

Deranged and thuggish

WASHINGTON (Map, News) - Hillary Clinton's campaign aides admitted Thursday they were consulted by their big donors before the group sent a letter to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi containing a veiled threat that she would risk their financial support unless she reversed her view that superdelegates should follow the will of voters.

Campaign spokesman Phil Singer would not give the details of the exchange between Clinton aides and the group, which is made up of 21 wealthy Clinton backers, including prominent venture capitalist Steve Rattner and Black Entertainment Television founder Robert L. Johnson.

by Cee on Thu May 8th, 2008 at 11:35:32 PM EST
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Re: Letter to the HillBloggers (none / 0)

Tell these assholes to take their money over to McCain. Oh yeah, he can't take it.

by Bob In Pacifica on Thu May 8th, 2008 at 11:40:04 PM EST
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