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[UPDATE] II 24 republicans join dems in sending articles of impeachment to Judiciary | 64 comments (64 topical, editorial, 0 hidden)

Re: Didn't even make the news. (4.00 / 10)

Regarding Obama?
Be careful what you wish for.
You may just get it.

eh? My expectations of Obama are zero. I know, he has the ears, but not that elfin magic.

As far as Chicago and it's machine goes, that's not why Obama is in. He's in because he's a vanity candidate extraordinaire. He's in because the democrats aren't concerned about winning this trip, but because they think he broadens thier financial horizons and and broadens thier base of power for the future. He's in because the democrats have been losing the AA base they've enjoyed playing for the last 40+ years and needed a little passion play to keep 'em in the fold.

Anyway,
the fix is always in. Pelosi, even Conyers now, are playing the game they're told to play.

Me?
Kerry was my last roll of the democratic dice. I'm out of the two party system now, for good because I see no reason to expect either party, but especially the democrats, to come back to me. To come back to the country or the people. And if it's all down hill from here, at least I can look myself in the mirror and say that principle still trumps pragmatism.

Green Grass and High Tides Forever

by supersoling (colorsplash62@optonline.net) on Tue Jun 10th, 2008 at 10:35:03 AM EST
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Re: Didn't even make the news. (4.00 / 7)

Agreed!

Now that's some real progressive thought and analysis. Thanks, Super.

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by Isis on Tue Jun 10th, 2008 at 11:32:56 AM EST
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Re: Didn't even make the news. (4.00 / 8)

I think it's common sense.
To forego impeachment in this most egregious case is to kick the legs out from under the congress for the future and, as far as I'm concerned, grease the skids and open the door for a future dictator who might be far worse than Bush. The democratic leadership isn't stupid. They haven't shelved impeachment or thier ability to end war funding because they're dumb or frightened. It's because it doesn't serve thier long term interests.
Kucinich, thankfully is a little bit different. At least he's entered his dissent into the record, and if it goes to a vote, so will the yays and nays be there for all to see. It may not have an impact now, but someday when historians look for when the country ceased to be a viable democracy it'll be plain to see who still loved and fought for it and who chose to turn away.

Green Grass and High Tides Forever

by supersoling (colorsplash62@optonline.net) on Tue Jun 10th, 2008 at 12:09:18 PM EST
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Re: Didn't even make the news. (4.00 / 2)

What you don't understand is the very serious effort to prosecute them criminally after they leave office. I'll not talk about these efforts, but they are underway.

Which would you rather see? Impeachment, or actual jail time?

"If you look for the social economic motive, you will not have to wait for history to tell you what was propaganda and what was truth." - George Seldes

by Real History Lisa (lpeaseRemoveThis@gte.net) on Tue Jun 10th, 2008 at 03:59:59 PM EST
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Re: Didn't even make the news. (4.00 / 3)

What I understand is what I see with my own eyes, Lisa. And that amounts to about jack. There is no serious behind the scenes efforts that involve democrats. Maybe there is a non-partisan effort by elder statespeople and legal experts. Bugliosi is attempting to persuade State's District Attorneys to bring murder charges against Bush, but it sounds like the wrong angle.

No, read the quote in the diary. It is the congress that has the solemn duty to defend and protect the Constitution from a rogue president.

One more thing.
Is Kucinich priveleged to this information that you won't speak about? Or is he an idiot like me who doesn't understand these serious behind the scenes efforts you find necesarry to point out?

Green Grass and High Tides Forever

by supersoling (colorsplash62@optonline.net) on Tue Jun 10th, 2008 at 06:50:57 PM EST
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Re: Didn't even make the news. (none / 1)

He has his ideas, others have theirs. I'm not denigrating him. But there are limited resources, and SO MANY things to fix. Impeachment will never pass, so the Democrats don't want to waste time on that. But there are several in Congress and elsewhere working on plans to make sure they pay so this can't happen again.

"If you look for the social economic motive, you will not have to wait for history to tell you what was propaganda and what was truth." - George Seldes

by Real History Lisa (lpeaseRemoveThis@gte.net) on Tue Jun 10th, 2008 at 11:38:01 PM EST
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Re: Didn't even make the news. (4.00 / 4)

Then you and I and them too I guess have different interpretations of failure. If the democrats as a body allow this president to skate away without so much as a censure then they are just as guilty as George Bush of eviserating the document upon which this country functions and of kneecapping any future congress' power to protect what's left of the constitution and the people from losing what's left of their rights.

For a supporter of a politician who fancies himself in the image of MLK and RFK

Green Grass and High Tides Forever

by supersoling (colorsplash62@optonline.net) on Wed Jun 11th, 2008 at 05:45:13 AM EST
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continued.... (4.00 / 4)

....for a person who supports a politician who fancies himself in the image of MLK and RFK, I find your rationale for appeasement and abandonment of principle disturbing. Those men would not have foregone fighting and possibly losing on principal for the sake of political expediency. I'm glad that I can say I lived when they lived, even if was too young to be aware of them. It connects me to a time when there were still some who stood on principle regardless of the prospects of failure and despite the great risks.
This country and it's ability to produce people of that character no longer exists.

Green Grass and High Tides Forever

by supersoling (colorsplash62@optonline.net) on Wed Jun 11th, 2008 at 05:53:49 AM EST
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Re: Didn't even make the news. (4.00 / 4)

Constitutional law professor Turley @ Crooks and Liars

Olbermann: "I've often argued here, that even if you don't think the words aren't lead to any actions, say the words anyway, simply to get them on the record for history and simply because, nothing has ever changed from bad to good in this country without somebody first saying, this is bad. Assess the importance of what Dennis Kucinich did last night."
Turley: "You know, it is very important. The fact is, that this is not supposed to happen the way it's happened in the last seven years. The framers, I think, would have been astonished by the absolute passivity, if not the collusion of the Democrats in protecting President Bush from impeachment. I mean, they created a system that was essentially idiot-proof, and God knows we've put that to the test in the past few years, but I don't think they anticipated that so many members of the opposition would stand quietly in the face of clear presidential crimes."

Green Grass and High Tides Forever

by supersoling (colorsplash62@optonline.net) on Wed Jun 11th, 2008 at 07:54:59 AM EST
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Re: Didn't even make the news. (4.00 / 4)

Dead on. There is the way it is supposed to happen, well written, thoughtful, supposedly sacred and unalterable. Then there is how it has happened. As I've always maintained the Dems are just the 'Good Cop' in the backroom beating the American people have been taking for generations. They are Pepsi.

I guess, I just prefer to be lied to because I have empathy rather than greed.

Anyone know a good plumber?

by anarchronarchist (mincers (-at-) hotmail (-dot-) com) on Wed Jun 11th, 2008 at 09:36:15 AM EST
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Like Fitzmas? (4.00 / 4)

I don't say they're not trying. But will they succeed? We have seen failure before.

There is another problem, which Supersoling alludes to. What good does it do, really, if they see jail time but the Constitution is not restored? THAT is a scenerio I can imagine too easily. I still remember "the system worked." Of course it did: The smoothest scam in the world.

by Gaianne on Tue Jun 10th, 2008 at 08:40:28 PM EST
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Re: Didn't even make the news. (4.00 / 8)

Which would you rather see? Impeachment, or actual jail time?

Both.

AG

Goodness had nothing to do with it, dearie.-Mae West

by Arthur Gilroy (arthurgilroy<at>earthlink.net) on Tue Jun 10th, 2008 at 08:49:30 PM EST
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Re: Didn't even make the news. (4.00 / 4)

If they won't do anything about Bush while he is still in office, why should I believe that they will do anything when he's gone? I'm sure there will be something more important to deal with. The past is done, why stir up everything?

With that line of reasoning, maybe we should close all the jails. Akuna Matata.

Land of the watched, because of the cowed.

by hens teeth on Wed Jun 11th, 2008 at 01:28:13 AM EST
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Re: Didn't even make the news. (none / 1)

I think it's an incredible marker of who one is by whether they like or hate Obama. I appreciate the campaign - it lets me know who to trust here, and who not to.

"If you look for the social economic motive, you will not have to wait for history to tell you what was propaganda and what was truth." - George Seldes

by Real History Lisa (lpeaseRemoveThis@gte.net) on Tue Jun 10th, 2008 at 03:58:46 PM EST
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Re: Didn't even make the news. (4.00 / 7)

I think it's an incredible marker of someone's character, or lack of it, when they get to define how a person will be judged based on a test that makes you either a supporter or a hater. It's that short step to calling people who find Obama lacking racists. And it's beginning to take a toll on my sense that people here are essentially fair. But if you're really saying I or anyone else hates him and therefore can't be trusted because I can't and won't support his old brand of politics any longer, then I thank you for making my decision to no longer consider you honest an easier decision.

Green Grass and High Tides Forever

by supersoling (colorsplash62@optonline.net) on Tue Jun 10th, 2008 at 07:01:23 PM EST
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Re: Didn't even make the news. (3.33 / 3)

No. It reveals how deeply underinformed you are about Obama. I never said anything re you being a racist.

"If you look for the social economic motive, you will not have to wait for history to tell you what was propaganda and what was truth." - George Seldes

by Real History Lisa (lpeaseRemoveThis@gte.net) on Tue Jun 10th, 2008 at 11:38:56 PM EST
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Re: Didn't even make the news. (4.00 / 3)

By the same logic, there is approximately 25% of the population that considers you (and all of us here) deeply underinformed about George W. Bush.

Just sayin'.

Tengo un sueño.

by ejmw (ewitham (at) umich (dot) edu) on Wed Jun 11th, 2008 at 12:12:46 AM EST
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Re: Didn't even make the news. (4.00 / 5)

Is it possible for you to have an exchange with someone who doesn't support your candidate without habitually pointing out what you see as their lack of (insert insult here)? Going into the general election it might be wise to revise your persuasive angle of attack if you have any hope of luring enough supporters to push him over the top.

As a working class, low education white male (i.e. leper to the creative? class), this condescending approach of yours is becoming less amusing as it is offensive. I am not much younger than you. I've been politically engaged as a participant in the great activist protests of the late 60's since i was 8 little years old. I have been vetting and voting for democrats for nearly 30 years now. You can go on insulting me and the many like me as long as you like but you face a rude awakening when you realize the magic dust wasn't as potent as you were deluded into believing.
Now I'm finished talking about candidates and their shortcomings.

Green Grass and High Tides Forever

by supersoling (colorsplash62@optonline.net) on Wed Jun 11th, 2008 at 06:22:55 AM EST
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Re: Didn't even make the news. (none / 1)

As a constituent of Senator Obama, I thought I knew him pretty well. Yesterday however, I had a very pleasent surprise. I called his DC office to ask for some help in something I have been involved for some time, and I have to say I have never been treated by anyone in Congress as his office treated me. All I can say is that they provided me with a email address of one of his aids,so I could contact them directly. Of all the years I contacted Congress, I was always tod to write a letter... which would have probably been stashed in a pile for some time. Not with him. If that is a prelude of what is to come, way to go Senator!!!

by cruz del sur (nicodk@sbcglobal.net) on Wed Jun 11th, 2008 at 11:39:22 AM EST
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Re: Didn't even make the news. (4.00 / 6)

Either with us or against us, eh?

uh oh...

Hard to appreciate a campaign that sets natural allies against each other, presents false dichotomies and false choices as our only options and makes people at once mourn the un-electability of real (even elfin) reformers while deriding the one realistic route to such reform through a general election: abiguity.

Underinformation vs the inability to trust - could be a Greek Tragedy. I guess from an intrigue angle I can really 'appreciate' it too.

It aint November yet, anyone who is 'right' now only has to wait for the rest of us to catch up. Kidding aside, Frustration is indeed the curse of the Visionary. Occasionally impatience too.

Anyone know a good plumber?

by anarchronarchist (mincers (-at-) hotmail (-dot-) com) on Tue Jun 10th, 2008 at 11:53:24 PM EST
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Re: Didn't even make the news. (4.00 / 4)

Obama is a politician. Probably one of the better ones, but definitely not the answer to all problems. The cult of personality is a very dangerous thing.

Land of the watched, because of the cowed.

by hens teeth on Wed Jun 11th, 2008 at 01:35:28 AM EST
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Re: Didn't even make the news. (4.00 / 4)

It makes me really sad to hear you say that, RHL.

by mythmother (mythmother (at) gmail.com) on Thu Jun 12th, 2008 at 01:41:26 AM EST
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[UPDATE] II 24 republicans join dems in sending articles of impeachment to Judiciary | 64 comments (64 topical, 0 editorial, 0 hidden)

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