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[UPDATE] II 24 republicans join dems in sending articles of impeachment to Judiciary | 64 comments (64 topical, editorial, 0 hidden)

Re: Didn't even make the news. (none / 1)

I think it's an incredible marker of who one is by whether they like or hate Obama. I appreciate the campaign - it lets me know who to trust here, and who not to.

"If you look for the social economic motive, you will not have to wait for history to tell you what was propaganda and what was truth." - George Seldes

by Real History Lisa (lpeaseRemoveThis@gte.net) on Tue Jun 10th, 2008 at 03:58:46 PM EST
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Re: Didn't even make the news. (4.00 / 7)

I think it's an incredible marker of someone's character, or lack of it, when they get to define how a person will be judged based on a test that makes you either a supporter or a hater. It's that short step to calling people who find Obama lacking racists. And it's beginning to take a toll on my sense that people here are essentially fair. But if you're really saying I or anyone else hates him and therefore can't be trusted because I can't and won't support his old brand of politics any longer, then I thank you for making my decision to no longer consider you honest an easier decision.

Green Grass and High Tides Forever

by supersoling (colorsplash62@optonline.net) on Tue Jun 10th, 2008 at 07:01:23 PM EST
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Re: Didn't even make the news. (3.33 / 3)

No. It reveals how deeply underinformed you are about Obama. I never said anything re you being a racist.

"If you look for the social economic motive, you will not have to wait for history to tell you what was propaganda and what was truth." - George Seldes

by Real History Lisa (lpeaseRemoveThis@gte.net) on Tue Jun 10th, 2008 at 11:38:56 PM EST
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Re: Didn't even make the news. (4.00 / 3)

By the same logic, there is approximately 25% of the population that considers you (and all of us here) deeply underinformed about George W. Bush.

Just sayin'.

Tengo un sueño.

by ejmw (ewitham (at) umich (dot) edu) on Wed Jun 11th, 2008 at 12:12:46 AM EST
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Re: Didn't even make the news. (4.00 / 5)

Is it possible for you to have an exchange with someone who doesn't support your candidate without habitually pointing out what you see as their lack of (insert insult here)? Going into the general election it might be wise to revise your persuasive angle of attack if you have any hope of luring enough supporters to push him over the top.

As a working class, low education white male (i.e. leper to the creative? class), this condescending approach of yours is becoming less amusing as it is offensive. I am not much younger than you. I've been politically engaged as a participant in the great activist protests of the late 60's since i was 8 little years old. I have been vetting and voting for democrats for nearly 30 years now. You can go on insulting me and the many like me as long as you like but you face a rude awakening when you realize the magic dust wasn't as potent as you were deluded into believing.
Now I'm finished talking about candidates and their shortcomings.

Green Grass and High Tides Forever

by supersoling (colorsplash62@optonline.net) on Wed Jun 11th, 2008 at 06:22:55 AM EST
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Re: Didn't even make the news. (none / 1)

As a constituent of Senator Obama, I thought I knew him pretty well. Yesterday however, I had a very pleasent surprise. I called his DC office to ask for some help in something I have been involved for some time, and I have to say I have never been treated by anyone in Congress as his office treated me. All I can say is that they provided me with a email address of one of his aids,so I could contact them directly. Of all the years I contacted Congress, I was always tod to write a letter... which would have probably been stashed in a pile for some time. Not with him. If that is a prelude of what is to come, way to go Senator!!!

by cruz del sur (nicodk@sbcglobal.net) on Wed Jun 11th, 2008 at 11:39:22 AM EST
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Re: Didn't even make the news. (4.00 / 6)

Either with us or against us, eh?

uh oh...

Hard to appreciate a campaign that sets natural allies against each other, presents false dichotomies and false choices as our only options and makes people at once mourn the un-electability of real (even elfin) reformers while deriding the one realistic route to such reform through a general election: abiguity.

Underinformation vs the inability to trust - could be a Greek Tragedy. I guess from an intrigue angle I can really 'appreciate' it too.

It aint November yet, anyone who is 'right' now only has to wait for the rest of us to catch up. Kidding aside, Frustration is indeed the curse of the Visionary. Occasionally impatience too.

Anyone know a good plumber?

by anarchronarchist (mincers (-at-) hotmail (-dot-) com) on Tue Jun 10th, 2008 at 11:53:24 PM EST
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Re: Didn't even make the news. (4.00 / 4)

Obama is a politician. Probably one of the better ones, but definitely not the answer to all problems. The cult of personality is a very dangerous thing.

Land of the watched, because of the cowed.

by hens teeth on Wed Jun 11th, 2008 at 01:35:28 AM EST
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Re: Didn't even make the news. (4.00 / 4)

It makes me really sad to hear you say that, RHL.

by mythmother (mythmother (at) gmail.com) on Thu Jun 12th, 2008 at 01:41:26 AM EST
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[UPDATE] II 24 republicans join dems in sending articles of impeachment to Judiciary | 64 comments (64 topical, 0 editorial, 0 hidden)

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