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If you are talking about my reading comprehension, I comprehend just fine.  

So you'll give Hillary supporters time and space to get used to the idea of voting for Obama ... as long as they've already (as of TODAY) decided to do exactly what you want - vote for Obama.  

Let's see, I think that falls under this clause of that ridiculous piece you linked to - but it might be even more appropriate if I make just a little tweak to it:

the mentality of entitlement and superiority that has been long ingrained in us as white [men]--so that we believe we have the right to dictate the terms of political engagement, and to determine the outcome, and to get our way, simply because for so long we have done just that.

You want them to support Obama and not McCain.  You might try winning their votes.  Instead of berating them for not doing what you want them to do.  

by maryb2004 on Sat Jun 14th, 2008 at 06:20:09 PM EST
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I'm not interested in winning the votes of bigots.  

That's where we are not seeing eye to eye.

It's as if you think we can charm people into voting for Obama who oppose him because he's black.  Or you think there is this big pool of voters out there that are so mad about Clinton that they'll vote for McCain, but that if I just show them a little respect in June they'll come around in November.

That's all crap (to use a term you like).

by BooMan on Sat Jun 14th, 2008 at 06:37:12 PM EST
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And I'm saying that all the 'white women' who are 'threatening to withhold support from Barack Obama' are not bigots.  And you are tarring them with one big brush by claiming that they are.  oh my. god.   I used the word tar.  It will give you an excuse to call me racist.

And in fact I'll go further.  I've notice a whole lot of men in the blogosphere writing about white women in derogatory terms in a general way until some of us come into the threads and point out that many white women voted for Obama and many white women who voted for Clinton have already indicated that they are going to vote for Obama. And other white women who will eventually come around to voting for Obama.

I know you'll come back and say you aren't talking about anyone but the ones who WON'T vote for Obama.  But it doesn't matter what you intend.  It hurts all of us white women to have the phrase 'white women' used over and over and over in rants on the blogosphere.  

And using the term 'whiteness' to denote racism?  Yeah, I get that he's turning the whole thing of judging a group by its skin color on its head.  

But you know what?  When I try to work for a society that doesn't treat people differently based on the color of their skin - I'm not working for a society that feels comfortable calling ANY skin color, white OR black, a bad thing.

That was an incredibly offensive piece.  Frankly, by the end it almost convinced me that I was in the wrong party because of my gender and my sex.  

But then I reminded myself that the guy ISN'T even a Democrat.  Who the hell is he to lecture on what group is important to the Democratic party and what group isn't?   And why is a Democrat buying into that crap.  Yes. It's crap.

by maryb2004 on Sat Jun 14th, 2008 at 06:55:00 PM EST
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you know what I find offensive?  TalkLeft, Riverdaughter, Hillaryis44, LeftCoaster, Taylor Marsh, and NoQuarter.

Me calling calling out the racists on those sites and the people that think like them is not something that should be offensive.  It's not my fault that they've showed up all too much of their whiteness.  

by BooMan on Sat Jun 14th, 2008 at 07:39:57 PM EST
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huh?  this seems a non sequitor.  Unless I missed a big discussion of those sites here in this thread.  

You should stop reading those sites.  It would be better for you.  And better for us here at BT.  After all, if we wanted to be involved in what goes on at those sites, we'd go to those sites. :)

Although I was thinking of going back to TalkLeft occasionally.  Wadda ya think?

After all, I am white.  and a woman.  Maybe that is the place for me.

by maryb2004 on Sat Jun 14th, 2008 at 07:47:16 PM EST
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Let me point you to Frank Rich today

But the notion that all female Clinton supporters became "angry white women" once their candidate lost -- to the hysterical extreme where even lifelong Democrats would desert their own party en masse -- is itself a sexist stereotype. That's why some of the same talking heads and Republican operatives who gleefully insulted Mrs. Clinton are now peddling this fable on such flimsy anecdotal evidence.

The fictional scenario of mobs of crazed women defecting to Mr. McCain is just one subplot of the master narrative that has consumed our politics for months. The larger plot has it that the Democratic Party is hopelessly divided, and that only a ticket containing Mrs. Clinton in either slot could retain the loyalty of white male bowlers and other constituencies who tended to prefer her to Mr. Obama in the primaries.

This is reality turned upside down. It's the Democrats who are largely united and the Republicans who are at one another's throats.

In my opinion, when you link to work of this type you are feeding the sexist stereotype that there are scores of women out there who would vote against their own values instead of simply a few women who would do that (and in fact some of them were Republicans to start with and aren't really going to be voting against their values).  I say to you again, that your (very admirable) work against racism sometimes causes you to take stands that either do not fight against sexism or feed into sexist stereotypes.  

In addition, as Mr. Rich says, this is part of a larger false narrative that we are divided.  

I know that you don't care about 'framing'.  So let me make this very personal for you - by linking to these types of opinions you are intentionally feeding the larger false narrative that Armando is feeding by his insistence that Hillary must be on the ticket.  

by maryb2004 on Sun Jun 15th, 2008 at 10:52:26 AM EST
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No.  I'm not.

Let me tell you what I'm doing.  I'm telling all the people in the blogosphere that populate Hillary sites that I am gonna call them racist if they continue to support or threaten to support John McCain.  I'm not gonna give No Quarter or Talk Left denizens a pass.  I'm gonna be on their asses like white on rice.  You want to threaten us?  Okay.  

You were critical of me for getting my hands dirty at the end of the primaries, but the ratfuckers needed to get ratfucked, and they got what they had coming to them.  I don't think Larry Johnson will be getting asked on any more cable news shows or that he has a shred of credibility left.  That's sad for me, but it is what it is.  This is  war and it hasn't been fought nicely, mary.  

by BooMan on Sun Jun 15th, 2008 at 11:06:34 AM EST
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it's not war.  and if you think it's war and make it into a war, you will end up with a pyrrhic victory fought using the tools and tactics of sexism.  All in the name of fighting racism.  

The only one of those sites that's worth fighting is NoQuarters and that's NOT because Larry is a blogger and the way to fight him is NOT on blogs.

I never read Larry when he posted here because I thought he was a kook.  And Susan ... well .. I think you know how I felt about Susan's honesty.  Manny is worth 1,000 Susans but you didn't seem to get that at the time.  that might make you step back, take a breath and question your judgment right now.

the worst part about this is that i don't think this really is about racism for you. i think yelling racism is just a tactic for you.  why?  because you are not at all interested in figuring out which of those supporters really are racist and which of them are threatening to support McCain for other reasons entirely.  You've just decided your tactic:

I'm telling all the people in the blogosphere that populate Hillary sites that I am gonna call them racist if they continue to support or threaten to support John McCain.

this could have to do with fighting racism if you were really interested in separating out those who aren't racist from those who are.  But you aren't.  

this isn't about racism, this is about your outrage that Hillary Clinton and her supporters didn't do what you wanted them to do - they inconvencienced you and your candidate by winning a heck of a lot of votes and making this a heck of a close race and forcing Obama to win by fiat of the DNC.  and after it was over they had the NERVE to think that they might still have some leverage in the party.  

well have at your imaginary war.  Just don't expect me to be sancho panza to your don quixote.  I don't let friends live with delusions.  

by maryb2004 on Sun Jun 15th, 2008 at 12:50:54 PM EST
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Their leverage in the party?

We'll see what their leverage truly is.  I predict that their leverage will be pretty close to nil.  And the reason it will be so low is because of the tactics they chose to use and are still choosing to use.  

Do you want to know the real reason why I have so much more to say about racism than sexism?  

Because I never once saw Obama use sexism in the campaign.  I never got an email from the campaign that gave me any negative talking point about Clinton's experience, her qualifications, her character, or her gender.  I did not see any of Obama surrogates, with the exception of Jesse Jackson Jr., making derogatory remarks about Hillary Clinton.  The campaign hardly even complained about the character assassination that the Clintons were pushing at every turn.  They repeatedly chose to not take offense to the most offensive tactics and remarks.  And, I'm being serious, they did not ask or coordinate with bloggers to do the job fo them.  

I have a real problem with people that made excuses for the Clinton campaign and stuck with them to the bitter end, because unless they were not paying attention (which is fine) they had no problem with race-based attacks on Obama.

You say I don't want to make an effort to distinguish the racists.  That's not true at all.  I want to make sure people know the racists.

by BooMan on Sun Jun 15th, 2008 at 01:07:17 PM EST
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