Don't know what quote you mean, but I'll take your word for it :o)...and thanks I guess LOL!

I want to be straight you know...that I really didn't mean to imply that people on this blog were guilty of calling sceptics haters. That particular reaction...I've only seen here once and I'm not sure it was meant for me directly but in a vague, round about way for anyone not fully behind him. Obviously that's no way to address a person who has questions about his readiness and so on. It certainly won't win over any converts, that's for sure.

I've had my problems with this blog. Some of those problems I was guilty of creating. But for a quote, unquote democratic blog most people here are pretty open minded toward people like me who can't support democrats anymore, particularly presidential candidates.

Going third party has it's drawbacks you know, because the reality is that no third party will have much of an impact anytime soon. But when you get as frustrated as I am with democrats it really doesn't make sense, at least it doesn't to me, to keep on going back for more punishment. With McKinney at least I know she won't hold anything back. She never has. That's what I like best about her. She gets straight to the heart of the problems. She points out inconvenient truths that for whatever reason democrats consistantly fail to do. I'm so sick of being lied to. So sick of mealy mouthed bullshit. I want a fighter. If she's nothing else, she's a fighter.

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Hi,
 you know, Fathers Day actually sucked this year :o/
My Uncle who still lives with me is disabled with emphysema, among other things. We do our best to take care of him but he's not been taking care of himself lately. He's eating less and less and seems to be getting weaker at an accelerated pace these last few months. He's a young man really. In his mid 50's. But I swear he looks like 70. I know he's depressed about his situation. And I'm stretched to the limit just taking care of my own family by myself. Not that he's neglected in any way. He has the essential things he needs, so I don't understand the rapid decline.

Anyway, I guess he finally caught what I've had for almost two weeks now, a respiratory infection. Add that to emphysema   and it's no wonder he was having such a hard time breathing that we went ahead and called an ambulance for him this evening. They're keeping him for tests tomorrow and I'm hoping to get a chance to talk with the social worker there tomorrow because I think he needs care that we can no longer provide. He has full medical coverage and I'm hoping, maybe in vain, that some other arrangement might be found that would benefit him more and at the same time remove a burden that I'm no longer able to bear. That might sound cold. I hope it doesn't. But he was here for what I thought was a temporary stay with my Father  when my Father passed away, almost three years ago now. I've sort of inherited him...and the problems that go along with caring for him. I'm more or less supporting him. A grown man. I haven't known what to do. What can you do? You just get by the best you can and sort of go with the flow, waiting for however it's going to shake out to go ahead and shake out. Maybe this is the time.

Then there's the kids :o) They all went their own ways today. I guess that's normal when they're almost grown up. Things change, but I haven't changed! LOL
What are ya gonna do? :o)

Whew!
How's that for getting things off my chest?! :o)

So...I'm not sure where my question from yesterday, which I saw more as a statement of how I see some things fits in much with what you've written here. maybe what I said provided a good place for you to get some things that have been eating at you off your chest. That's cool. As a third party supporter I've tried hard and done my share of failing, to remain somewhat neutral when talking with supporters of Obama and Clinton or trying to point out things that bother me or even just asking questions about their positions on different things. I think that I may come off as partial to Clinton sometimes for different reasons. One could be that I comment here on this blog most of the time and this being an obvious Obama blog chances are I'll be exchanging ideas with his supporters. Another reason I think is that, and this is something I need to look at, I've felt protective of her from time to time when I've seen attacks on her that aren't limited to her politics. I'm a bit of a throwback I guess in that I'm quicker to jump to the defense of a woman when I see her being unfairly attacked because I was brought up to think that women were somehow less able to defend themselves. I know, the intentions might be good, but the result is sexist. It's obvious that she can defend herself just fine. But still I've felt bad from time to time seeing some of the things said about her and more than that, the level to which some people take the attacks. And that has happened here. And a lot of it has seemed unfair. A lot of it is unfair. Now remember, I'm no political supporter of hers. I just think that attacks on her should be limited to the facts about her shortcomings and her failures and unfitness to be president. Certainly any instance where racism has been used by her campaign should be and was vigorously attacked. As it should be if it comes from Obama'ss campaign. What Jesse Jackson Jr. implied after New Hampshire stands out here to me.

I think though that she's accomplished a lot of good things in her life. But I, like so many here, am sick of the Clinton culture as well. I just don't think she's a ghoul. Nor do I think that she deserves to be treated as if she's a leper. The declarations I've seen, even here, to not only defeat her in the primary but to utterely grind her into the dirt and banish her from the human race disturb me. It reminds me that a lot of people aren't really focused on, or forgetting about the rest of the real ghoulish shit that's happening all around us. Stuff that's the result of the complacency of a lot of democrats, not just Clinton. And that includes Barack Obama. He's not stood against one war funding bill since he's been in the Senate, so far as I know. I want to know why.

So, because I've engaged more with Obama supporters just as a fact of the environments I've been in it's the reactions from those people that are foremost in my mind. I haven't really posted on any so called "Hillary Blogs" so I can't really talk too much about the way her supporters react to honest questions. I have seen though some of the ugliness on some of those blogs, and it's just as disturbing, more so even, as what I've mainly experienced. As far as I'm concerned, it's ugly all over. Just depends on where you look.

Btw, there is and end to this comment, eventually! :o)
This brings me to what I thought my comment to you yesterday was about, from my perspective, taking everything I've just said above about different environments into account. This really uncomfortable trepidation I've felt whenever I've made comments critical about Obama.  Much of this feeling I have comes from so much stuff that I've read on other sites and kind of incorporated into my field manual for how to engage his supporters and what to expect. But even if I haven't directly experienced much of it, the effect of what I've seen at other places, in a wide enough and frequent enough way has had a chilling effect on my willingness to get too deep into criticism of him. Like I said in yesterday's comment, some of it might be my own bad perceptions and to be really honest I won't discount the possibility that I could be projecting some still embedded from my childhood racist misgivings of my own into that environment. But I'm trying really hard to be rigorous and reflective enough to be able to make the distinction. All I can do there is to keep my eyes and ears open. To listen carefully if a friend, like you, points out issues and behaviors that might not be as initially visable to me as they are to you/them. Lots of us still have a lot of work to do and I'm no different.

The only other thing I want to say is that I'm hoping that more of his supporters will heed his call to take the discourse to a higher level. Clinton is out now. She doesn't count anymore in the equation. But more ugly shit is on the way for sure, and it's likely to be worse than what's been seen so far.  

I wish none of these talks were necesarry because
I really do want to buy the world a coke! LOL :o)


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