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I agree about where the blame lies. I'm somewhat uncertain as to the reason. Are Pelosi, Hoyer, Reid, and co. covering their asses due to complicity in domestic spying? Do they, as Booman suggests, simply not understand how violently their base is opposed to what they've done? Are they, like Clinton, opposed to the new way of politics? Do they simply not understand the new political environment?

If I were being charitable, I would say it's a combination of all these factors. The political world's changed around them in four short years, and they've somehow wound up in the driver's cabin of a train that is flying past the moon. They're trying desperately to find the rails, when what we need is people who can see that there aren't any rails anymore.

I think Booman's definitely right that this is going to seriously hurt Obama's polls and fundraising. I wouldn't be surprised if it was a bigger dent than anything Clinton threw at him throughout the entire primary.

Kill because somebody was killed. Get killed because he killed. Do you think peace will ever come like that?

by Egarwaen on Sat Jun 21st, 2008 at 01:53:46 AM EST
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Pelosi, Hoyer, Reid, and co. simply do not believe that there is a new political environment. They believe that the Democratic Party can keep on playing the same game they've been playing since Clinton: collaborate with the Republicans while being assured that your base will be duped into supporting you no matter how far to the right you go.

Thus, Pelosi, Hoyer, Reid, and co. get their bearings from, and share their mindset with, their opposite numbers in the Republican Party much more so than from their base, that is to say, us. As far as they are concerned, they are the rulers, and we are the ruled. What they are doing with this FISA bill is just making that clear.

Republicans are like fetuses: both are incapable of thought. That's why Republicans are against abortion.

by Alexander on Sat Jun 21st, 2008 at 02:21:08 AM EST
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Could someone explain how Obama would be risking anything by standing up for the Constitution and a position that a majority of the country supports? This isn't wonky policy minutia regarding earmarks or, like someone else mentioned on another site, farm subsidies. It's the Fourth FUCKING Amendment of the United States Constitution! Why should anyone believe he's going to grow a spine when he's President? He's the de facto leader of the Democratic party, as such he should be able to make the passage of this abortion of democracy very difficult. If he wants my vote back, he will.

Maybe Stan Goff was right, as much as I'm uncomfortable to admit it; in order to defeat the Republicans, we first have to "bury the corpse of the Democratic party."

In my opinion, this is bigger than any wedge issue or "third rail" we could come up with. This is about powerful corporations essentially buying their innocence, all the while protecting those who swore to uphold the Constitution and are truly responsible for the illegal activity. Corporate and government power working hand in hand to retroactively exonerate themselves from previous illegal activities. Pardon me while I hit up Merriam-Webster to recheck the definition of fascism.

My World Without Gravity

by jack fate on Sat Jun 21st, 2008 at 02:23:06 AM EST
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Certainly. Obama stands up and says "Hey, guys? I don't want to run with this around my neck. Make it go away, kk?" Reid, Pelosi, Hoyer, and "Jello" Jay respond with "Well, seems that you're too liberal and radical for this party. Americans don't want a Muslim Liberal Radical in charge. I guess we backed the wrong horse. Hello, Senator Clinton's office?" Under their command, enough superdelegates switch from Obama to Clinton to make the primary a toss-up again, resulting in a messy floor fight at the convention.

Probable end result: McCain victory in November, regardless of which Democrat wins the nomination.

Rationale: I think Reid, Pelosi, Hoyer, "Jello" Jay, and the rest of their little band of Chamberlain wanna-bes would've preferred "Dalek" Clinton on the ticket in November in the first place. That's why they held off so long on supporting Obama: they were hoping that Clinton could deliver a knock-out punch. From now until the convention, when he becomes the party's nominee fo' realz, Obama's in a very delicate position. He's got a lot of theoretical weight, but if he leans on the wrong people at the wrong time, the superdelegates that he's depending on for his victory evaporate.

This is, I think, why Obama's been pandering to the party establishment - doing his dance with AIPAC, backing down on FISA, sponsoring Bush Dogs, etc. He knows they don't want him and they're still half-hoping to knife him in the back like they did Dean in 2004. And the establishment knows that he's treading a fine line - if he gives them an excuse, they can off him. But if he cooperates with them too much, he'll lose his grassroots support. Thus they're pushing him, trying to force him to edge rightwards.

The netroots are up against a wall here - the earliest we'll be able to apply our power and retaliate is 2010, and we absolutely cannot afford a McCain victory. On the other hand, look at Pelosi's little gang of entrenched Reagan Democrats. Do you really think that band of lunatics would actually mind four years of McCain? They'd probably celebrate, and spend four years trying to wrangle an invitation to one of his infamous BBQs.

Of course, it's possible that Obama's really a DLC Dem in disguise, and is going to be trending solidly right from now until he leaves office. But I don't think the evidence supports that. If he was, there'd be no reason for his erstwhile allies to drop a millstone like this around his neck.

Kill because somebody was killed. Get killed because he killed. Do you think peace will ever come like that?

by Egarwaen on Sat Jun 21st, 2008 at 03:07:00 AM EST
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That's frightening! One more thing for me to worry about.
by Joyful Alternative on Sat Jun 21st, 2008 at 07:30:49 PM EST
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Whatever the reason, if the Democratic leadership was stupid enough to give the nomination to Clinton after Obama has won the primaries and gotten even Hillary Clinton's support, they would literally destroy the party, They're not that stupid.
     Incidentally, whatever may be said for the others you mentioned, I see no evidence that Pelosi wanted Clinton. If you know of something, let us know.
     I also think the extent to which Obama had to make deals to get SDs to back him is exaggerated. There's a sort of circular logic here. Hillary appeared to be in a much better position to offer patronage, since she was expected to win. Once it became clear, at least to most SDs, that she could be beaten, I think it was their choice to get on the Obama bandwagon. He didn't have to make deals.
     You can say Obama's been pandering to the party establishment if you want, but Obama right now IS the party establishment. Of course he has enemies both within and without the party. But the way I would put it is, he's navigating the rockly shores of reality. The one thing you are right about is that this is a counterpunch from the forces we just beat. Interestingly, unless I missed it, I don't believe we've yet heard anything from Hillary about this FISA bill.
by priscianus jr on Sat Jun 21st, 2008 at 10:22:07 PM EST
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I really think you're overreacting here. I went out of my way to avoid having anything to do with AT&T after they gave money to Bush's 2000 coronation, but since then I've gotten to appreciate them, since they are one of only two major cell phone providers operating in the US which use the world standard GSM. (The other one is T-Mobile.)

Let's get real here. Even before Bush 2, it was common sense not to say anything that the government might find highly objectionable over the telephone, over what, in the movies, was called "an open line". And when it comes to email, if you want privacy, it is possible to encrypt so that it is not worth the government's effort to figure out what it is you wrote.

So even though the issue turns around the Fourth Amendment, it's not as if we are talking about the US government literally braking into our homes without a warrant or reasonable cause, the way it routinely does in occupied Iraq. There is a world of difference between the evil of the telecom companies and Republican private security/oil firms like Halliburton. Rather than making such an issue over immunity for the telecoms, I would like the Democrats to go after all the privatized military firms that have been set up under Rumsfeld and Cheney.

Which is not to say that the telecoms intruding upon our privacy by conspiring with the Bush administration is not a serious problem. But I do think that that is less of a problem than the expansion of the military industrial complex that has occurred under Bush 2 with Democratic collaboration.

Republicans are like fetuses: both are incapable of thought. That's why Republicans are against abortion.

by Alexander on Sat Jun 21st, 2008 at 03:06:31 AM EST
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Honestly, the fight with the telcos over Network Neutrality is much more important than warrantless wiretapping. Warrantless wiretapping undermines the fourth Amendment, yes. Their attempts to destroy network neutrality undermine the first amendment.

Kill because somebody was killed. Get killed because he killed. Do you think peace will ever come like that?
by Egarwaen on Sat Jun 21st, 2008 at 03:10:59 AM EST
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So even though the issue turns around the Fourth Amendment, it's not as if we are talking about the US government literally braking into our homes without a warrant or reasonable cause, the way it routinely does in occupied Iraq.

Not yet, at least. Just because the violation of privacy doesn't include kicking your door in, doesn't make it any less a violation of your privacy. Eight years ago the debate surrounding torture, what little there was for obvious reasons, was about how bad, ineffective and illegal it is, now we debate the merits and effectiveness of it.

I can kind of see what your saying, but it is - to use a tired phrase - a slippery slope. Besides, it's illegal and unconstitutional. I agree with you, the militarized state we live in is a huge problem, one I'm not sure we can solve and something that does need to addressed. But the Fourth Amendment to the United States Constitution was effectively purchased by telecom companies and that (not using this word lightly) smells of fascism. Which, in some ways, is the logical conclusion to the authoritarian tendencies this country has exhibited for some time. If we cannot defend and uphold the Constitution, the rest might as well be meaningless.

Show me where Obama's base and likely supporters agree that the Fourth Amendment is up for debate and maybe I'll understand his position. But I haven't seen anything like that.  

My World Without Gravity

by jack fate on Sat Jun 21st, 2008 at 01:00:00 PM EST
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Yes, you're right. I wasn't thinking very clearly when I wrote that, and regretted entering into that line of thought later.

This is a matter of principle, not a question of how many liberties we should give away to acquire a false sense of security, or enable our candidate who is moving to the right much more sharply than is called for in the current political climate.

Republicans are like fetuses: both are incapable of thought. That's why Republicans are against abortion.

by Alexander on Sun Jun 22nd, 2008 at 02:22:28 AM EST
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I'm still hoping that Obama has enough political savy to see the trainwreck ahead, for what does he risk indeed?  Reid, Pelosi, Hoyer that whole gang becomes more irrelevant with each new poll. Senator Obama is the next president of the United States barring some fatal contraction in his suppport among the fired up Patriots that have brought him this far.  Why he'd have to pick and issue was crutial to the whole movement and then screw the pooch.

Surely he can't be planning to do that?

by VA02 femocrat on Sat Jun 21st, 2008 at 09:05:30 AM EST
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To a large extent Obama is damned if he does, damned if he doesn't. On the one hand, if he comes out strongly against immunity, he risks the ire of those of his colleagues on whom he still, in some measure, depends for success. They have the keys to cause him great grief if they feel it's necessary. We saw that with Mayor Nutter and the street-money deal.

On the other hand, though, he has asked us to take a great leap of faith in funding his campaign. In doing so he has become beholden to a huge special interest group called the American people. If he doesn't go along with the wishes of the people funding his campaign -- which is now us -- he can find out in a hurry how fast his support can dry up.

And that's not to mention the Republican strategists who are just waiting in the wings to torpedo him with ads claiming that he's opening the door to terrorists, 9/11, 9/11, 9/11, al-Qaeda, al-Qaeda, al-Qaeda. That's a very real concern when trying to appeal to vast stretches of people in this country, many of whom have no idea what FISA is but they suspect Obama of being a closet Muslim terrorist jihadder.

It's a tough row to hoe. I wouldn't want to be in his shoes right now, although I like to think I know what I would do. But I'm not Obama, I don't know what kind of a minefield he's navigating, I don't know what he's thinking or who he's talking to or what he plans to do. I'm just glad it's him doing it. And let's face it, he asked for the job. When he's President he's going to come up against stuff like this pretty much every single day, at least 1461 days in a row. And that's only the first term.

He asked us to take a leap of faith in supporting him. I'm happy to take that leap. In return, all I'm asking is that he listen to my very real concerns, and act on them. And there are at last count somewhere close to two million of me, and not a one of us wants amnesty for the telcos, and not one of us wants anything as much as we want to be secure in our persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures.

When you're up to your ass in alligators, it's hard to remember that your primary objective was to drain the swamp.

by Omir the Storyteller (omir.the.storyteller -CAT- gmail -DOG- com) on Sat Jun 21st, 2008 at 02:12:50 AM EST
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well said. you reminded me of Shakespeare in Love

Philip Henslowe: Mr. Fennyman, allow me to explain about the theatre business. The natural condition is one of insurmountable obstacles on the road to imminent disaster.

Hugh Fennyman: So what do we do?

Philip Henslowe: Nothing. Strangely enough, it all turns out well.

Hugh Fennyman: How?

Philip Henslowe: I don't know. It's a mystery.

by northanger on Sat Jun 21st, 2008 at 02:43:00 AM EST
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Thank you. Being compared to Tom Stoppard is high praise indeed. That also happens to be one of our family's favorite movie quotes.

When you're up to your ass in alligators, it's hard to remember that your primary objective was to drain the swamp.
by Omir the Storyteller (omir.the.storyteller -CAT- gmail -DOG- com) on Sat Jun 21st, 2008 at 08:20:38 AM EST
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:O)

(i'd find some space related quotes if any of this were rocket science).

by northanger on Sat Jun 21st, 2008 at 12:06:32 PM EST
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Why are politicians beholden to the intelligence community? Come on, why is it so hard for people to figure out?
by Bob In Pacifica on Sat Jun 21st, 2008 at 10:33:20 AM EST
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