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Obama Failed On Heller | 10 comments (10 topical, editorial, 0 hidden)

Re: Obama Failed not only on Heller (none / 0)

Obama is turning into a loser. It's more of the same.

This morning from AP

Obama to expand Bush's faith based programs

CHICAGO - Reaching out to evangelical voters, Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama is announcing plans to expand President Bush's program steering federal social service dollars to religious groups and -- in a move sure to cause controversy -- support some ability to hire and fire based on faith.

He can forget November.

Well, "You can't vote for war and disown the results"

by idredit on Tue Jul 1st, 2008 at 10:46:38 AM EST

Re: Obama Failed not only on Heller (none / 0)

that's wrong, as I mentioned earlier today. Obama specifically says that discrimination against clients and/or employees on basis of religion is a non-starter, and that all programs must be secular in nature.

John Mccain Called his wife WHAT??

by brendan on Tue Jul 1st, 2008 at 12:49:31 PM EST
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Re: Obama Failed not only on Heller (none / 0)

hey, I didn't write the piece. AP did.

Huffpost notes an Update - a reaction from the Obama campaign that sought to amplify -a stance he's quite good at doing;

it'll be a new Council for Faith-based and Neighborhood Parnerships. Just give it a new name.

Yeah Obama has adapted Clinton speak. "it depends."

Well, "You can't vote for war and disown the results"

by idredit on Tue Jul 1st, 2008 at 02:56:33 PM EST
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Re: Obama Failed not only on Heller (none / 0)

yes but the AP piece is WRONG.
and now that you KNOW it is wrong, you should edit to reflect that (something the AP rarely does).

John Mccain Called his wife WHAT??

by brendan on Tue Jul 1st, 2008 at 04:01:42 PM EST
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Re: Obama Failed not only on Heller (none / 0)

how do you edit a comment once it's posted?

Well, "You can't vote for war and disown the results"

by idredit on Wed Jul 2nd, 2008 at 12:27:01 AM EST
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Re: Obama Failed not only on Heller (none / 0)

ah, jeez. I forgot about that, you can't edit comments.
What I usually do is I add a reply comment, acknowledging that I fouled up.
No biggie. That AP story got a LOT of people. Hey!

Maybe since the AP wants to sue bloggers for quoting them, bloggers should sue the AP for disseminating misinformation!

John Mccain Called his wife WHAT??

by brendan on Wed Jul 2nd, 2008 at 08:40:13 AM EST
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Re: Obama Failed not only on Heller (none / 0)

I wouldn't trust a word of what AP says these days.

This is all about politics not policy. He's looking to get 40% of the evangelical vote out of this. If it works it's the deathblow to the Republican coalition and the practical basis for the realignment. He's giving up absolutely no ground on the abortion issue and is willing to lose the other 60% over it. It's enough to make the realignment possible.

And look at what the "President's Council for Faith-Based and Neighborhood Partnerships" will actually be about:

Obama's President's Council for Faith-Based and Neighborhood Partnerships will launch a program to "Train the Trainers" by empowering hundreds of intermediary nonprofits and larger faith-based organizations to train thousands of local faith-based and community-based organizations on best practices, grant-making procedures, service delivery and limitations. The Office will host regular training sessions for selected community training partners. These partners... would be supported to travel to Washington and learn how to train local faith-based and community organizations on accessing federal service delivery dollars, remaining in compliance, avoiding proselytizing, understanding hiring rules, and reporting outcomes.

And I think people may be a little surprised by the kinds of "faith-based" organizations that may be empowered by this. I suspect a good number of them will be a whole lot less like Focus on the Family and a whole lot more like The Gamaliel Foundation (Obama's former employer when he worked as a community organizer).

by Alien Abductee on Tue Jul 1st, 2008 at 04:15:02 PM EST
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