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talking past each other?

Who would you rather have fighting for you?  Martin Luther King Jr. or Al Sharpton?  Paul Wellstone or Dennis Kucinich?  John Lewis or Cynthia McKinney?  Desmond Tutu or Rev. Wright?  

I'll take my advocates without Tawana Brawley, Chemtrails, 9/11 conspiracies, and the government gave blacks AIDs.  

In fact, if I were opposed to my views, I'd actively hire that list to represent the progressives.  

This isn't about buzzsaws.  It's about effectiveness.  We aren't going to rehabilitate that list and make the world safe for progressives thereby.  They are one and all more concerned about promoting themselves then the issues I care about.  And when they advocate for my issues they weaken my position.  Period.  

by BooMan on Tue Jul 1st, 2008 at 02:10:48 PM EST
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I probably would choose the sames spokespeople you would choose. (e.g. Desmond Tutu over Rev. Wright).  But we don't have the luxury of choosing our progressive friends.  

We have to go to war with the progressive candidates we have not the progressive candidates we wish we had.  It's not efffective for you to shoot all the ones on the left for being too leftist.  You will never achieve your ideal candidate.  It's you that is being too idealistic.

All I ask is that you defend liberals.  They are supposedly your allies.  Look, I don't like the 9/11 truth stuff or other conspiracy theories.  But America is full of conspiracy theories.  Hell, the Republicans would have no one voting for them if they removed from their party those that believed Saddam Hussein attacked us on 9/11.  And some conspiracy theories are no more kooky that other establishment ideas (that we can win a war on drugs--that we need to send troops to the Middle East to make us safer).   And some conspiracy theories are understandable.  Like the AIDS thing.  There is some mainstream evidence (a Pulitzer was given for reporting on this) and the black community certainly has a historical reason for believing this consipiracy.

Look.  These people help your side.  I know you don't see it because the right-leaning people you have contact with are put-off by these Lefties.  But it does help.  We need people making these arguments.  It's a long-term strategy.  I used to be on your side tactically.  I thought if Democrats moved to the center it would help.  I now see that to win the long-term ideological battle we have to support our fighters on the left that are getting attacked.

And Martin Luther King, Jr. would not be involved in the Obama campaing.  He is too radical for Obama.  He said almost the exact same thing that Rev. Wright is saying.  You may not know this but MLK was a very divisive figure back in the day.  But back then Democrats and liberals banded together for a common and core value and were able to achieve victory.  They won the narrative.  MLK is now a hero in this country and has a day named after him (despite McCain's efforts to the contrary).  They won because  liberals stood up for the fighters on their left flank.  MLK today would be a nobody radical.  

by SFHawkguy on Tue Jul 1st, 2008 at 02:23:45 PM EST
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If were talking about the specific people that I mentioned rather than a broader definition of the left or far left, then I totally disagree with you.

And I in absolutely in no way think distancing yourself from heavy-baggage leftists is a move to the center.  It's not.  

It's like going into court and discovering that your lawyer, despite being correct on the law, is totally incapable of winning over the jurors.  You don't try to convince the jurors that your lawyer isn't wrong, you replace your lawyer.  

There are many advocates on the left that are available to replace our clowns, but the media likes to invite our clowns on teevee to make sure the face of progressivism is all wrapped up with wacky conspiracy theories and personality-driven media hogs.  It is killing us and there is no profit in pretending otherwise.  

by BooMan on Tue Jul 1st, 2008 at 02:32:32 PM EST
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But that's the point.  You don't get to invent hypothetical lefties to defend.  We have to go to war with the lefties we have.  If you want to draft some more lefties--great, that's an awesome idea.  That's great some bloggers tried to recruit new progressives.  Too bad we didn't really look too closely at them and many of them just wanted the money.  But I applaud the effort.

I understand that you like a more centrist Democratic party.  That's fine.  We disagree on policy issues.  But we can't work together on the things we agree on if you are shooting me because I'm too lefty.  It's easier for you because you have the right-wing to help support you.  The right-wing and the media will gladly join forces with you to shoot the lefties.  It happens all the time.  You got your condemnation of MoveOn and you got your characterization of Kucinich as "kooky" and you got your disavowal of angry black preachers and liberal Generals.  But guess what?  It hasn't helped you.  The GOP will gladly turn on you and shoot you for your troubles after you have helped them dispatch with the left wing.  So you're not a big man for taking pot shots at those on the Left.  It's counterproductive.  A big man would find a way to support his allies but speak his mind, "I disagree with the black community's theory that the government started the AIDS epidemic but we must understand that there is a history of government abusing the black commuity.  Of course our country enslaved black people.  And more recently the government even conducted secret medical experiments on the black community.  So while I disagree with them in this particular theory I totally understand the feeling from where it comes and I wholeheartedly support my friends in the black community."  You would shoot these guys as "kooks" and disown them.

Plus, those of us on the Left have realized there is no more useful reason to be allies with you.  Yes, we have more in common that we do with the right-wing.  But we have stopped sharing core values and you don't even attempt to give us  basic political cover.  

by SFHawkguy on Tue Jul 1st, 2008 at 03:06:29 PM EST
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Now you're expanding your critique beyond what we were discussing.  So, here we go:

  1. I do not support the standard practice of shutting all progressives out of the national conversation except those that espouse conspiracy theories or are known self-promoting ambulance chasers.  I do not believe it is true that I have to live with these people are my spokespeople.  There is a whole progressive movement filled with smart, articulate, photogenic advocates that are still generally not allowed within a mile of a cable news studio or Sunday morning program.  

  2. I am pissed at the leadership of  MoveOn.org for marginalizing themselves through their own stupidity.  I'm not looking to pile on them, but I get angry when Democrats are attacked for pointing out something I totally agree with.  

  3. I don't want a center-right party.  I want to build the legitimacy and bench of the progressive movement so we aren't just a bunch of opinionated people with no practical experience in governing.  If you haven't noticed, we act like a bunch of whiny-ass titty-babies whenever we don't get what we want.  We want progress in leaps and bounds and constantly threaten to take our ball and go home.  Any time we are disrespected we threaten to vote third-party.  

One thing Arthur Gilroy was right about is that the blogosphere wouldn't spend two seconds after Obama won the nomination to start nibbling his house down like a swarm of petulant termites.

It really is childish.  

by BooMan on Tue Jul 1st, 2008 at 03:17:13 PM EST
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Didn't Rumsfeld say we had to go to war with the army we have? That worked out so well.

The "coalition of the willing" that takes office in January has to be able to actually govern, just as the Army we sent to Iraq actually needed to win the peace.

Serious friggin' action is needed now to fix so much damage that eight years of negligent governance has created.

That simply will not happen without help from the center and even the right. The electorate needs to send a message that this is not about ideology, partisanship, or control, but rather simple principled competence in government.

by Andrew Longman on Tue Jul 1st, 2008 at 03:28:40 PM EST
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