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Obama Responds on FISA | 22 comments (22 topical, editorial, 0 hidden)

Re: Obama Responds on FISA (none / 1)

I posted a comment/question in the thread at the Obama site where they are supposed to have 3 of his advisers working to answer the questions. No response yet. Her's my comment:

Can someone from the campaign make the following assurances to those of us concerned about Obama voting for the FISA bill even if the telecom civil immunity remains:

Can he assure us that all findings of the Inspector General's investigation will be made public for all to see, no matter how embarrassing it may be for elected officials who did the politically expedient thing by allowing the lawbreaking in the first place?

Can he assure us that, regardless of what comes out of any investigations, he fully intends to prosecute any discovered criminal acts to the fullest extent of the law?

I understand that the bill offers no criminal immunity to anyone. Only protection from civil ($$$) lawsuits. please assure us that his Attorney General will actually take this seriously and prosecute. Those who have violated our 4th amendment / privacy rights deserve to rot in jail.

by RandyH on Thu Jul 3rd, 2008 at 06:06:53 PM EST

Re: Obama Responds on FISA (none / 0)

Actually, Bush will probably immunize everyone before he leaves. So that option would be off the table as well.

Philip Shropshire http://www.threeriversonline.com

by pshropshire on Thu Jul 3rd, 2008 at 06:10:48 PM EST
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Re: Obama Responds on FISA (none / 1)

Maybe and maybe not. Bush has a legacy to protect and that would be an admission of guilt. But that's not my point.

I want them to commit to making all findings from any investigations public, even if they are politically damaging. Just getting the facts out in the open will embarrass those who deserve it and end the conspiracy theories, hopefully. If any prosecutions are possible, that's nice as well. Additionally, getting the facts out will likely also be what's needed to actually tighten the standards used in the program and create or enhance other privacy protections.

by RandyH on Thu Jul 3rd, 2008 at 06:19:45 PM EST
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You simply cannot be serious (none / 0)

You believe that he will not grant blanket pardons due to his legacy?

Are you on drugs or something? That's simply ridiculous.

He will pardon Libby. He will pardon several Republican representatives. he will pardon the several blackwater murderers

He will beat by several factors the number of pardons ever given by any president. And they will all be political.

The most important issue: can a pardon be offered BEFORE a person is indicted? what is the statute of limitations on various issues?

by dataguy on Thu Jul 3rd, 2008 at 06:24:30 PM EST
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Re: You simply cannot be serious (none / 1)

He may well pardon people and that's a stain on his legacy if he does. There's nothing that any legislation can do to prevent him from doing it. And yes, it is possible for him to pardon anyone for anything before it's even investigated or charges filed. Some people think that just because Nixon didn't pardon himself and his whole gang of criminals, that a president can't do it. Nixon could have but he wanted Ford to do it after the fact, hoping it would do less harm to his legacy and he got a commitment from Ford before quitting office.

If McCain wins, he'll probably make the same commitment to Bush. That's why we can't let McCain win.

by RandyH on Thu Jul 3rd, 2008 at 06:32:07 PM EST
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Re: You simply cannot be serious (none / 0)

Worry about the legacy of the worst president in history?

by cruz del sur (nicodk@sbcglobal.net) on Thu Jul 3rd, 2008 at 07:24:58 PM EST
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Re: You simply cannot be serious (4.00 / 2)

I don't worry about it, but Bush does. In fact, that's ALL that he seems to worry about anymore.

by RandyH on Thu Jul 3rd, 2008 at 07:43:07 PM EST
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Re: You simply cannot be serious (none / 0)

I was refering to Bush, of course.

by cruz del sur (nicodk@sbcglobal.net) on Thu Jul 3rd, 2008 at 09:47:50 PM EST
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