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Blame and Culpability | 50 comments (50 topical, editorial, 0 hidden)

Re: Blame and Culpability (none / 0)

i can't believe you referenced the brooks column, whose title is crying out for a lebowski reference, without heeding the call.

by upyernoz (upyernoz [at] yahoo [dot] com) on Tue Sep 30th, 2008 at 12:49:59 PM EST

Re: Blame and Culpability (none / 0)

Awesome. How did I miss it?

by BooMan on Tue Sep 30th, 2008 at 12:56:49 PM EST
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Re: Blame and Culpability (4.00 / 2)

good gathering nevertheless.

Yglesias takes a shot at Brooks, something that crossed in my thoughts:

This is noteworthy, though I think a little naive of Brooks. The House conservatives who sank the bailout didn't do so because they were listening to loud and angry voices. They sank the plan by accident. They were trying to double-cross the Democrats. First, they wrung lots of concessions out of Democrats at the negotiating table as the price for delivering 80 votes. Then, by not delivering 80 votes and forcing Pelosi to pass the bill as a partisan Democratic bill, they were going to wage a demagogic anti-bailout campaign. But Pelosi refused to be played for a sucker and so the conservative inadvertently sank a bill that, all evidence suggests, they actually wanted to pass. They just wanted to vote "no" on it for short-term political gain.
(my highlight)

He's right on. There's an Ad blaming Obama for the meltdown and bailout failure, while party leader McCain is stepping on his message calling for bipartisanship

Well, "You can't vote for war and disown the results"

by idredit on Tue Sep 30th, 2008 at 01:14:06 PM EST
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Re: Blame and Culpability (none / 1)

This is why I'm getting so pissed at the lefties who just keep droning on about how the Dems conspired with Bush, got conned, etc. I've been no fan of Pelosi, but this was played beautifully. Opinion is turning fast as more and more people check with their own banks and start getting scared. If the Dems come up with a bill (The Economic Recovery Act of 2008?) minus the concessions the GOP put in, they should be able to get it through Congress with minimal Rep support and force Bush to sign it. I call that waking up at last.

FDR's response to progressive demands: "I agree. Now go out and make me do it."

by DaveW on Tue Sep 30th, 2008 at 03:45:28 PM EST
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Re: Blame and Culpability (none / 1)

i simply don't get why so much working is going into shutting down any discussion of an alternative to the $700 billion bailout plan. maybe that is the best alternative, but let's see it compared with other ideas, especially considering that the $700 billion figure that everyone is so wedded to was simply pulled out of paulson's ass. -- upyernoz

Once again, the leading liberal bloggers profess utter bafflement in response to the Democrats' actions. [...] Digby said -- with "Deep, Heavy, Sigh" [...]

Obviously, I'm not the only one who can't for the life of me figure out why the congress is doing this.

Liberals and Progressives as Political Creationists

Change we can't believe in. No we can't!

by Alexander on Tue Sep 30th, 2008 at 01:43:16 PM EST
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Re: Blame and Culpability (none / 0)

McCombover's whole campaign is also crying out for such a reference.

You fuckin' asshole! Everything's a fuckin' travesty with you, man! And what was all that shit about Vietnam? What the FUCK, has anything got to do with Vietnam? What the fuck are you talking about?

The world's northernmost desert wind.

by Sirocco (sirocco2005 - AT - gmail.com) on Tue Sep 30th, 2008 at 03:16:46 PM EST
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Re: Blame and Culpability (none / 1)

In this case, Donnie is the U.S. economy.

by BooMan on Tue Sep 30th, 2008 at 04:48:09 PM EST
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