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The Phantom Candidate | 34 comments (34 topical, editorial, 0 hidden)

Re: The Phantom Candidate (none / 0)

Why would it Epic Fail?

Rasmussen finds that people are loving her, and buying into the idea that attacks on her are unfair. I know they slant slightly Republican but even if you knock the numbers down a bit it's nothing good except that Obama leads HER on the experience question which I suppose is better than being behind.

Look I'm sorry that I constantly concern troll your posts, but the numbers right now are not encouraging of Epic Fail.

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by MNPundit on Fri Sep 5th, 2008 at 02:50:42 PM EST

Re: The Phantom Candidate (none / 0)

the least meaningful data is that likeable/unlikeable stuff.

The fact that she is sequestered and will be limited to doing fundraisers is all the data you need to know she is in EPIC FAIL territory.

by BooMan on Fri Sep 5th, 2008 at 02:58:03 PM EST
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Re: The Phantom Candidate (none / 0)

They are rolling the dice on this, surely. They're confident that they no longer need the media to win this...after all they have Fox News.

But in all honesty BooMan all they have to do is repeat "the sexist liberal media is attacking poor Sarah Palin" and they win. Again. Already over half of America believes it.

If she smiles at a fundraiser and shows up to the VP debate, they win.

Go for McSame instead.

More at Zandar vs. The Stupid.

by Zandar1 on Fri Sep 5th, 2008 at 03:17:38 PM EST
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Re: The Phantom Candidate (none / 0)

I don't need to go after McCain. I need to counter the idea that Palin is a change candidate, a wholesome female warrior, and somehow qualified to be president. Palin is McCain's greatest weakness and the Obama campaign isn't going to touch it. That leaves us to do the job.

by BooMan on Fri Sep 5th, 2008 at 03:23:42 PM EST
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Re: The Phantom Candidate (4.00 / 3)

how's this for a counter to her "wholesome female warrior...nuturing mother" image. here's palin's favorite bloodsport: aerial slaughter:

"Alaska is truly our nation's last frontier. It is also the last place in the U.S. where a few hunters still use aircraft to chase and kill wolves. They shoot these animals from the air or chase them to exhaustion before landing and shooting them point blank."
"Congress passed a law thirty five years ago to put an end to aerial hunting. But Alaska is exploiting a loophole in federal law to resume the practice, not only for wolves, but bears as well."
Sarah Palin recently offered 180 pilots and gunners $150. for each left leg from a fresh killed wolf. Another source states Palin spent $400,000.00 in taxpayer dollars in a massive PR campaign to promote aerial killing of wolves and bears...
Republicans for Obama

and this video from gristmill:environmental news blog...The Truth About Aerial Hunting of Wolves in Alaska:

run them down, wound them with a shotgun, and then mutilate them...it's called bounty hunting were l come from, and it damn sure ain't sport.

Gov. Palin supports aerial hunting because the powerful Alaskan commercial hunting industry wants to eliminate nature's predators in order to inflate moose and caribou numbers so they can continue to cater to wealthy out-of-state hunters seeking a trophy.
care2 news

palin's an anti-intellectual, anti-science, pro oil, war, big business, reich wing, bloodthirsty fundamentalist; and l'm sure l left some out.

the revolution will not be televised...

by dada on Fri Sep 5th, 2008 at 03:56:24 PM EST
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Re: The Phantom Candidate (4.00 / 3)

Good find! Now THIS is what we should be talking about when it comes to Palin. Even the few hunters I know think shooting from an airplane is disgusting and a slap in the face to all hunters.

Sarah Palin: marketing the slaughter of wild wolves from an airplane to rich out-of-staters. It doesn't get more elitist than that.

I really think this is the one that could bring her down. What's needed is explicit footage of the slaughter that doesn't come from an "environmentalist" source. There should be lots around. Also unarguable proof of her involvement from non-partisan sources.

She's doing a pretty good pretense so far of being a frontier environmentalist type. Remember how polar bears don't need protection because here in Alaska we care about our environment? Now we'll see in bloody detail exactly how much she cares. Except when it comes to money, of course.

FDR's response to progressive demands: "I agree. Now go out and make me do it."

by DaveW on Fri Sep 5th, 2008 at 04:26:05 PM EST
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Re: The Phantom Candidate (none / 1)

l don't think anything can "bring her down" among the fundie zealots, but this could hurt her big time with the nra types. their initial response has been euphoric:

The McCain-Palin ticket has spawned "great excitement among gun owners and hunters," says Chris Cox, the NRA's top lobbyist in Washington. "Our focus is to arm gun owners with the facts," Cox adds, pun intended, noting that the 4 million-member NRA intends to do comprehensive education and voter-turnout work targeting the nation's 80 million gun owners.
[note: from national journal, ergo, no link]

l'm not an nra member but l'm a long-time wing-shooter, as well as trap and skeet shooting, so l come into contact with quite a few who are. certainly anecdotal evidence, but based on my experience and interactions with them, most of these guys are serious and conscientious sportsmen, and in their own way, environmentalists...with a few exceptions.

these kinds of activities are not looked upon with any respect...much like cheney and his canned hunts...and her support and promotion of them, will not go over well with them if it can be made a part of the dialog, and it has the potential to seriously erode some segment of that particular base.

certainly worthy of wider distribution.

the revolution will not be televised...

by dada on Fri Sep 5th, 2008 at 05:36:02 PM EST
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Re: The Phantom Candidate (4.00 / 2)

I think it goes way wider than that. I'm thinking of a lot of suburban and small-town people who lean GOP but will be unable to vote for McCain after seeing this. Don't forget that outside the loony base, McCain/Palin are going for the big content-free emotional binge to win over the soft-minded. In the sentimentality wars, this is a WMD to their .22. You'd have to be a borderline psycho to want to vote for her after seeing this.

FDR's response to progressive demands: "I agree. Now go out and make me do it."

by DaveW on Fri Sep 5th, 2008 at 05:52:57 PM EST
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Palin, the Real Scandal (none / 1)

Palin: the real scandal

(The Independent) Sept. 6, 2008 - Seen from the air, Sarah Palin's state is an environmental wonderland. From Anchorage to the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge, there is a vast landscape of snow-capped peaks, fjords, crystal glaciers, coastal lagoons, wide river deltas and tundra.

The guardian of this wilderness - and Governor of Alaska - has, this week, become one of the most recognisable faces in the world. But behind her beaming smile and wholesome family values is a woman aligned with the big oil and coal firms that are racing to exploit Alaska's vast energy reserves.

Governor Palin would also like to bring open-cast coal mining to Alaska's Brooks Range Mountains, an act of environmental vandalism in the eyes of many.

The Palin administration has allowed Chevron to triple the amount of toxic waste it pours into the waters of Cook Inlet. This, even though the number of beluga whales in the bay has collapsed from 1,300 to 350 - the point of extinction - because of pollution and increased ship traffic.

On the Republican convention floor Palin said: "We Americans need to produce more of our own oil and gas and take it from a gal who knows the North Slope of Alaska: We've got lots of both."

Alaskan village sues 24 energy firms for climate change

What the Anchorage Daily News has had to say on Palin

≈ Cross-posted from my diary -- Palin's Wildlife Policies, Guns and (Sex) Appeal ≈

"But I will not let myself be reduced to silence."

by Oui on Fri Sep 5th, 2008 at 07:35:07 PM EST
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Re: The Phantom Candidate (none / 0)

Fair enough. Somebody has to, surely.

More at Zandar vs. The Stupid.

by Zandar1 on Fri Sep 5th, 2008 at 03:34:08 PM EST
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Re: The Phantom Candidate (none / 1)

I agree. if she looks like she's hiding, it will not pass muster. the press will begin to smell blood.

meanwhile the alaska papers are starting to ask questions about trooper-gate, and wooten (the trooper) juist appeared on CNN.
drip drip drip, as they say.

I'll give Sarah Plain this: she has significantly improved my mood. GOP scandals have a way of making me a smile, and Palin's a cornucopia:

Troopergate; Dairygate; her possible affair; it's OK for GOOPer teenagers to have children out of wedlock-gate; book-banning; ebay-gate.

Have I missed anything? It's hard to keep up.

All we need now is for naked pictures to emerge.

OK, that was cruel.

John Mccain Called his wife WHAT??

by brendan on Fri Sep 5th, 2008 at 03:23:23 PM EST
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Re: The Phantom Candidate (none / 1)

...adding that Todd's business partner's emergency attempt to seal his divorce records just failed

The latest story the National Enquirer is working on is that Palin had an affair with Todd's ex-business partner in an Anchorage Car Wash venture. [snip]
Two days ago, Todd's ex-business partner filed an emergency motion to have his divorce papers sealed. Yesterday the motion was DENIED.

Someone get the Jiffy Pop, this is going to be fun!

John Mccain Called his wife WHAT??

by brendan on Fri Sep 5th, 2008 at 03:47:31 PM EST
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Re: The Phantom Candidate (none / 1)

we're taking the bait, playing into the distraction. The more focus on Palin, the more Obama-Biden is drowned out.

I think the John Bush camp should maintain this strategy.

Palin no Palin her past will soon catch up. The Alaska Legislature is on her tail - after her stonewalling and subpoenas. Sooner or later she'll polarize.

People are not interested in beauty contests. The economy is facing a great depression. No exaggeration.

Joining with Greenspan who said the Fed is not everyone's piggy bank, Paul Volcker today said the Finance System `Broken,' Losses May Rise (Update1)

Sept. 5 (Bloomberg) -- Former Federal Reserve Chairman Paul Volcker said the U.S. financial system, dependent upon securitization rather than traditional bank loans, is broken, and may contribute to the weakest expansion since the 1930s.
``This bright new system, this practice in the United States, this practice in the United Kingdom and elsewhere, has broken down,'' Volcker said today at a banking conference in Calgary. ``Growth in the economy in this decade will be the slowest of any decade since the Great Depression, right in the middle of all this financial innovation.''
The former Fed chief projected ``a lot'' more losses from the collapse in the mortgage-backed debt market, after the more than $500 billion tallied so far, should the U.S., European and Japanese economies fail to pick up. He urged changes in financial regulations, echoing calls among sitting officials and legislators.
``It is the most complicated financial crisis I have ever experienced, and I have experienced a few,'' said Volcker, who has endorsed Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama. Volcker ran the Fed from 1979 to 1987, and engineered an increase in interest rates to 20 percent to quell inflation that exceeded 10 percent.
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Now that's depressing.

Well, "You can't vote for war and disown the results"

by idredit on Fri Sep 5th, 2008 at 03:22:27 PM EST
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Re: The Phantom Candidate (none / 1)

Which may be why they'll turn to sappy smileyface marketing bullshit as an escape from reality. Worked for Reagan, worked for Hitler, among others.

FDR's response to progressive demands: "I agree. Now go out and make me do it."

by DaveW on Fri Sep 5th, 2008 at 03:36:39 PM EST
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Re: The Phantom Candidate (none / 1)

Obama is in the fight of his life. Booman has too much confidence in the American public to understand anything beyond what they see on their local TVs. Public financing of presidential elections is another farce, given the 527 opening for anyone to castigate the opposition, Obama, daily, likewise on local TV.

I opened my pocket book today, but my feelings is that the election will go the way of Gore and Kerry, with another last minute reprieve, for McCain.

by shergald on Fri Sep 5th, 2008 at 03:30:27 PM EST
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