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Deep Thought | 22 comments (22 topical, editorial, 0 hidden)

Re: Deep Thought (none / 1)

I consider myself as athiest. I have no doubt that this guy survived solely by the skill of his surgeons and his physical fortitude.

But....I'll say this; if I were injured or one of my children injured and their life was in the balance I would not deny help in any form, least of all an outpouring of positive energy, whether it be prayer, meditation, or plain good thoughts. Religion used in this way does no harm, means...no harm. It means well.

Besides, his mother said;

"Chase survived in part because hundreds of people prayed to Father Emil Kapaun to intercede on his behalf."

Green Grass and High Tides Forever

by supersoling (colorsplash62@optonline.net) on Mon Jun 22nd, 2009 at 12:23:13 AM EST

Re: Deep Thought (none / 1)

Religion used in this way does no harm, means...no harm. It means well.

Agreed. But in the aftermath, this event is being used like other "miracles" to con people into detaching themselves from reality and putting their time, effort, and invariably money into religious institutions that are anything but harmless.

I'm glad this kid survived his ordeal and that he's obviously surrounded by a lot of people who care deeply about him. That's really wonderful. What's not wonderful is the way the event is being used to expand the swamp of ignorance and superstition that reason and science have been trying to drain for centuries -- the same reason and science that saved the boy's life. That this is going on in Kansas, where religion, much of it extremist, has lately led to assassinations and the erosion of reality-based education, is at the very least saddening.

On a totally unrelated and frivilous tangent, I just noticed your email address -- are you a Lomo user?

by corvus on Mon Jun 22nd, 2009 at 01:10:13 AM EST
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Re: Deep Thought (none / 1)

I agree & also concur with Super, but I mainly had to check out the "Lomo" link.
Strangely enough though I`d say Super`s color splashing does leave one with a better outlook.
At first glance I`d thought, damn, I`ve used all kinds of stuff, but this must be what the kids are calling it now, or I`m just too old school.
I`ll have to go back to the link though. I just took a quick glance.

Have a great day.

What`s up Super? Everything OK?

The difference between theists and atheists is that the atheists don't set the theists on fire for refusing to agree with them.

by KNUCKLEHEAD on Mon Jun 22nd, 2009 at 03:20:49 AM EST
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Re: Deep Thought (none / 0)

Lomo's main products are replicas of Soviet-era cameras, the LC-A and the Holga. The LC-A was originally designed to be a compact, wide-angle, zone-focused camera for use by the Soviet intelligence agencies. It's basically equivalent to the old Kodak Scout, but about a third the size. The Holga is an all-plastic medium format appreciated by some for its amazingly low quality -- distortions, vignetting, and light leaks come free with each purchase. The LC-A, by contrast, is actually a pretty nice fixed-lens 35mm camera, if somewhat overpriced.

Just about everything else Lomo sells is gimmicky but fun stuff like the Colorsplash flash, plastic cameras that take four exposures in a single frame, cheap underwater cameras, and replicas of lo-fi cameras from the 60's.

I own an embarrassingly large amount of Lomo gear, though my main camera is the trusty old Pentax Spotmatic F.

by corvus on Mon Jun 22nd, 2009 at 10:37:30 AM EST
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Re: Deep Thought (none / 0)

What's up, Knucklehead? :o)
Everything is cool with me. Everything that's important, that is! The rest is clutter :o)

I had a nice Dad's Day yesterday and that primed me up enough to hurdle any unforeseen obstacles I haven't picked up on yet :o)

Green Grass and High Tides Forever

by supersoling (colorsplash62@optonline.net) on Mon Jun 22nd, 2009 at 09:07:33 PM EST
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Re: Deep Thought (none / 0)

Hey Super,
Isn`t it amazing how a bunch of love on a celebratory day can boost your strength to battle future unforeseen turmoil.
I`m glad all`s is well with the wind in your sails.

The difference between theists and atheists is that the atheists don't set the theists on fire for refusing to agree with them.

by KNUCKLEHEAD on Tue Jun 23rd, 2009 at 01:37:43 AM EST
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Re: Deep Thought (none / 0)

Oh... the way the event is being used. But that is a different issue.

by priscianus jr on Mon Jun 22nd, 2009 at 06:35:03 PM EST
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Re: Deep Thought (none / 0)

Nothing in your comment to disagree with. I personally, have no use for religious institutions of any sort. I have an opinion about the the quality of any thinking mind that allows itself to be sunk in the swamp, but I'm mellowing a little and no longer find it useful or particularly relevant to question the sanity of those who believe what I don't. You can't unsave those who want and need to be saved. We're all insane in our own ways.

Obviously, I draw a line when beliefs become a means to subjugate, exclude and or otherwise cause harm. But I don't see it in this specific instance. There are many athiests who are just as maniacal as the southern baptists or seventh dayers are when they assert that their non belief is the only logical belief.

Why can't we all just get along :oP

My email address is a holdover from my custom graphic painting business. The splash was meant to signify the marine aspect of the machines I worked on. I always thought it was corny, the word colorsplash. I'm grateful to you for pointing out that there's at least one other person prone to coining corny names :o)

Green Grass and High Tides Forever

by supersoling (colorsplash62@optonline.net) on Mon Jun 22nd, 2009 at 08:53:59 PM EST
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Miracle is Not the Essence (none / 1)

.
His exemplary life is.

"But I will not let myself be reduced to silence."

by Oui on Mon Jun 22nd, 2009 at 06:14:22 AM EST
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The Chaplain (none / 0)

US Army Captain, POW, Chaplain Emil Joseph Kapaun

Chaplain Kapaun first served his god and country in battle in the China-Burma-India (CBI) Theater during World War II. Arriving in India in April of 1945, he ministered to soldiers along the Ledo Road from Ledo, India to Lashio, Burma. <snip>

KOREA WAR NEAR CHINA BORDER

Outwardly he was all G.I., tough of body, rough of speech sometimes, full of the wry humor of the combat soldier. In a camp where men had to steal or starve, he was the most accomplished food thief of them all. In a prison whose inmates hated their communist captors with a bone deep hate, he was the most unbending enemy of Communism, and when they tried to brainwash him, he had the guts to tell them to their faces that they lied. He pitied the Reds for their delusions, but he preached no doctrine of turn-the-other-cheek. I came upon him once sitting in the sunshine by the road. There was a smile on his face and a look of happiness in his eyes.

I hated to break in on his meditations, but I needed cheering, so I asked him, "What are you thinking of, Father?" "Of that happy day," he said, "when the first American tank rolls down the road, then I'm going to catch that little so and so, Comrade Sun, and kick his butt right over the compound fence."

"But I will not let myself be reduced to silence."

by Oui on Mon Jun 22nd, 2009 at 06:45:34 AM EST
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