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Judy Finds More Notes; Flanigan Withdraws

by susanhu
Fri Oct 7th, 2005 at 05:16:43 PM EST

Reuters is reporting that Saint Judith has "discovered notes from an earlier conversation she had with Vice President Dick Cheney's chief of staff [Scoooter Libby]."

Judith Miller, a New York Times reporter, has "turned [the notes] over the prosecutor investigating the leak of a covert CIA operative's identity, legal sources said on Friday." As Catnip's story today states, Miller must meet with Fitzgerald next Tuesday.

Miller's notes about a June 2003 conversation with Cheney's chief of staff, Lewis "Scooter" Libby, could be important to prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald's case by establishing exactly when Libby and other administration officials first started talking to reporters about CIA operative Valerie Plame and her diplomat husband, Joseph Wilson.

A report from The Observer quotes a source who said that Miller's notes "could significantly change the time frame of Miller's involvement with Libby" (via numediaman.)

Huh. Did Judy forget about the notes, and just run across them? I wonder if Mr. Fitzgerald knew that some notes were missing, or if he suspected notes were missing and demanded that Judy come up with them. And will this delay the conclusion of Fitzgerald's investigation because he may have to call in Libby, Rove, Miller herself, or others again? As numediaman observes, "there is no reason for Fitzgerald to rush to end this investigation."

The NYT doesn't have a story up on Judy's found notes, but is reporting that Timothy Flanigan, Bush's pick for the second-ranking position at the Justice Department -- after Deputy AG James Comey, who had appointed Fitzgerald, left for a cushy job at Lockheed Martin -- "abruptly withdrew his nomination today after facing weeks of questions over his ties to the lobbyist Jack Abramoff and his role in formulating torture policies, officials said."

MORE below, including the just-published ACLU statement on Flanigan's withdrawal:

There had been considerable concern about how Flanigan's appointment would affect Fitzgerald's investigation, even though rules would not permit any overt direction of the special prosecutor's work.

The NYT says that the chief concern for "Democrats and some Republicans was Mr. Flanigan's role at Tyco as general counsel in overseeing the lobbying work of Mr. Abramoff in pushing for Tyco and other companies to maintain their tax-exempt status."

"Mr. Flanigan's withdrawal," says the NYT, "reflects the fact that Mr. Abramoff has become so tarnished that anyone connected to him risks significant political damage in Washington, including Tom Delay."

The Washington Post also has the story on Flanigan: "No. 2 Justice Candidate Withdraws Name," via The Daou Report. (However, the WaPo seems to be down at the moment.)

Update [2005-10-7 17:51:35 by susanhu]: From the ACLU:

The following can be attributed to Christopher E. Anders, an ACLU Legislative Counsel: "Flanigan was hit from all sides during this confirmation process, about his role in multiple scandals. When pressed, he refused to account for his role in the development of policies that led to the abuses at Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo Bay. Flanigan had no business supervising prosecutors responsible for investigating and prosecuting torture and abuse that his own policies helped facilitate.

"While Flanigan may fade away from the spotlight, lawmakers must continue to focus on the decisions that led to interrogation policies that abandon the rule of law. Low-ranking individuals like Private Lynndie England have been charged and sentenced, but the higher-ups that crafted these policies have gotten off scot-free. We renew our call on Attorney General Gonzales to appoint an independent, impartial special counsel to investigate the torture and abuses scandal. It is the only way to assure the public that this government is committed to demanding accountability, eliminating abusive interrogation procedures and restoring the rule of law."

Read the ACLU's letter to the Senate Judiciary Committee on Timothy Flanigan's record.



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I beat you by five minutes on this one -- why don't you pull quote from the Observer story in my diary and I'll go ahead and delete my diary.

--- A (former) member of the dreaded MSM, so be kind.
by numediaman on Fri Oct 7th, 2005 at 05:25:54 PM EST
How's that?  I also added your comment about there being no rush for F. to finish the investigation....

but we're impatient! :)

Hickok: "You know the sound of thunder. Can you imagine that sound if I ask you to? Ma'am, listen to the thunder."

by susanhu (susanhuatearthlinkdotnet) on Fri Oct 7th, 2005 at 05:32:01 PM EST
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I don't know, I kind of like the idea of the criminals squirming a little before the hammer of justice comes down (God, such poor writing, yuk).

Actually, I find this whole "new notes" thing a little disconcerting.  Could they be "new" the same way Martha Stewart's broker came up with "notes" -- he made them up after the fact.

--- A (former) member of the dreaded MSM, so be kind.

by numediaman on Fri Oct 7th, 2005 at 05:37:17 PM EST
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Do you want to do Delay's wrongful prosecution suit against Ronnie Earle?  CNN just broke that one.

It is fun knowing that they're all sweating bullets.  

It'd be infinitely more fun if we could actually WATCH and LISTEN as they sweat this out.  

It'd make a great, instant-hit reality show.

Hickok: "You know the sound of thunder. Can you imagine that sound if I ask you to? Ma'am, listen to the thunder."

by susanhu (susanhuatearthlinkdotnet) on Fri Oct 7th, 2005 at 05:41:53 PM EST
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Geez. How many notes does the woman have on Libby? What kind of crap excuse is that? The dog ate her notes?

As for Flanigan, it's a beautiful day in the neighbourhood.

by catnip (llamg88 at hotmail.com) on Fri Oct 7th, 2005 at 05:54:23 PM EST
I suppose it's possible that she didn't remember the notes.  Someone as busy as she surely is -- what with all those phone calls to Chalabi et al. -- could surely forget.

But, unless her filing system is like mine (and I pray it's not), she should have been able to find them fairly easily.

Hickok: "You know the sound of thunder. Can you imagine that sound if I ask you to? Ma'am, listen to the thunder."

by susanhu (susanhuatearthlinkdotnet) on Fri Oct 7th, 2005 at 05:58:17 PM EST
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I'll bet she has a big Chalabi file. :)

I don't know - even I have file folders. Seems it wouldn't be to difficult for her to have one labeled "Libby" or "Scooter" or "Guy Who Makes Obscure Tree References" or "Snuggle Bunny" or whatever.

by catnip (llamg88 at hotmail.com) on Fri Oct 7th, 2005 at 06:13:53 PM EST
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When I take notes in a reporter's notebook (it's a long, thin style, easily held in one hand), I write the contents on the cover so that I can tell what's inside.

So does every other print reporter I know, past and present. Don't give me that nonsense about newly-discovered/remembered notes, JudyJudyJudy.

A politician is a man who will double cross that bridge when he comes to it. -- Oscar Levant

by Mnemosyne on Fri Oct 7th, 2005 at 07:03:56 PM EST
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M, if Judy didn't supply all the notes, can't she be charged with obstruction of justice.

Hickok: "You know the sound of thunder. Can you imagine that sound if I ask you to? Ma'am, listen to the thunder."
by susanhu (susanhuatearthlinkdotnet) on Fri Oct 7th, 2005 at 08:40:15 PM EST
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Don't know. IANAL. I imagine it would depend in large part on how the "found" notes were presented, and how much Fitz knew about them before their resurrection.

From the sounds of this entire investigation and considering the cast of characters, obstruction of justice may turn out to be the least of the charges when it's all said and done (I hope, I hope).

A politician is a man who will double cross that bridge when he comes to it. -- Oscar Levant

by Mnemosyne on Fri Oct 7th, 2005 at 10:36:41 PM EST
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I meant to add that it has been over two years, and it's hard to remember everything from something that long ago.

But, I'm not trying to give her the benefit of the doubt.

Hickok: "You know the sound of thunder. Can you imagine that sound if I ask you to? Ma'am, listen to the thunder."

by susanhu (susanhuatearthlinkdotnet) on Fri Oct 7th, 2005 at 05:59:23 PM EST
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hmmm...wouldn't those documents have been subpeonaed or did she hand them over voluntarily to begin with? I don't know about this. It sounds like she tried to keep them under wraps. Did Rove testify today?
by catnip (llamg88 at hotmail.com) on Fri Oct 7th, 2005 at 06:11:27 PM EST
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Dunno about the docs .. but I think that'd be in any subpoena duces tecum worth its weight.

Yeah .. how come we can't know if Karl testified?  Aren't there people stalking the courthouse?  Don't people know where the grand jury meets?

Let's put up a pot and get BooMan another $110 ticket to D.C. so he can linger around the courthouse, and eat his bologna sandwich near the grand jurors as they have their lunch.

P.S. CATNIP! It finally dawned on me to add what you had in your earlier story -- that Judy must meet with Fitzie next Tuesday.   Doh.

Hickok: "You know the sound of thunder. Can you imagine that sound if I ask you to? Ma'am, listen to the thunder."

by susanhu (susanhuatearthlinkdotnet) on Fri Oct 7th, 2005 at 06:58:40 PM EST
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that they're loading as much gold bullion onto Air Force One as they can, and with enough fuel to get it to Argentina?

One way.

by notcho on Fri Oct 7th, 2005 at 06:17:12 PM EST
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by Oui on Fri Oct 7th, 2005 at 06:37:55 PM EST
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How big of a jail cell would we need in order to fit all the Bush regime criminals in it at one time?

So many candidates, so few steel bunkbeds.

Denial is our most dangerous adversary.

by sbj on Fri Oct 7th, 2005 at 06:26:03 PM EST
These Miller notes are a very important development.  They place Miller's involvement in this closer to the original June 10th memo that first mentioned the name of "Valerie Wilson."  This bolsters my suspicions that a) Miller was part of the leak conspiracy; and b) she did not get a sweetheart deal from Fitzgerald.  

At this point she is trying to avoid getting indicted, and she is singing like a canary.  That is also what she was doing when she went to jail in the first place.  She knew she would be questioned about her own culpability, and so she hid behind her bullshit claim that she was honor-bound to protect her sources.  The pieces of the puzzle are starting to come together.  

jpol

by jpol on Fri Oct 7th, 2005 at 08:07:34 PM EST
For those of you who do not recall the time line, Wilson's op-ed piece ran on July 6, 2003, so a Miller meeting with Libby in June regarding Wilson is very significant.  And a State Department memo was written on June 10th that first identified "Valerie Wilson" as Joseph Wilson's CIA-employed wife.  Keep both of these timeline items in mind when examining the significance of Miller's newly-found notes.

jpol
by jpol on Fri Oct 7th, 2005 at 11:30:49 PM EST
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You know, it sounds like some kind of smoking gun, but it could be a delaying tactic.

I wouldn't get too excited about it.

It's just that I loathe this woman.  Truly.

An untypical Negro

by blksista (gab1954@gmail.com) on Fri Oct 7th, 2005 at 05:40:18 PM EST

She's a sneaky one, and a very difficult person.  Where did I read the stories about how difficult she was for the troops / inspectors to work with in Iraq?

Hickok: "You know the sound of thunder. Can you imagine that sound if I ask you to? Ma'am, listen to the thunder."
by susanhu (susanhuatearthlinkdotnet) on Fri Oct 7th, 2005 at 05:48:22 PM EST
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WMD: Weapons of Miller's descriptions

Miller, with a special knack for writing what the Pentagon liked to read, was the sole reporter embedded with the 75th Exploitation Task Force, which operated Mobile Exploitation Teams (MET Alpha, MET Bravo) hunting for WMD in Iraq. Her stories, which were widely reprinted or reported in other newspapers, on cable TV, and on talk radio, helped convey the impression to the nation that illicit weapons had been found in Iraq, supposedly validating the decision for war.

As she and others have explained, Ahmad Chalabi, an Iraqi expatriate, was the source of much of her information; some of the time she credited him directly. She had mentioned him much earlier: In an interview in 1998, shortly after Operation Desert Fox (four nights in which the United States and Britain bombed numerous targets in Iraq), she said that Chalabi told her he had been given only "a few hours' notice" of the impending attack.

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  • by Oui on Fri Oct 7th, 2005 at 06:15:26 PM EST
    [ Parent ]
    by catnip (llamg88 at hotmail.com) on Fri Oct 7th, 2005 at 06:25:28 PM EST
    [ Parent ]
    dKos diary
    by catnip (llamg88 at hotmail.com) on Fri Oct 7th, 2005 at 06:19:36 PM EST
    [ Parent ]
    a novel, or a series of novels, I could not imagine that anyone would believe the twists and turns of this story.  The editor would read it the first time, and throw it in the trash can.  "Nobody would believe this!"

    It is time for Democrats to remember who got us in this mess, oppose them and not each other.
    by keepinon (jaukkuri@sbcglobal.net) on Fri Oct 7th, 2005 at 10:18:17 PM EST
    Might it be indelicate to suggest where cher Judith found those extra notes?
    by NorCalJim on Fri Oct 7th, 2005 at 10:46:09 PM EST
    on those babies. What a CO-INCIDENCE. 85 fun-filled, action-packed days in jail, and she just NOW remembers these notes?

    Ck the computer file to see when they were created. Sheesh.

    by LookingUp on Sat Oct 8th, 2005 at 04:34:15 AM EST
    Good point.

    But can a search warrant be issued for a journalist's computers?  Or WH staff?

    Hickok: "You know the sound of thunder. Can you imagine that sound if I ask you to? Ma'am, listen to the thunder."

    by susanhu (susanhuatearthlinkdotnet) on Sat Oct 8th, 2005 at 01:40:37 PM EST
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