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German Citizen Beaten-Sodomized-Drugs Injected and Flown to Kabul

by Oui
Tue Dec 6th, 2005 at 07:19:04 PM EST

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Khaled El-Masri Abducted by American Agents

WASHINGTON (New York Times) Dec. 6 -- A German citizen who alleges he was abducted, beaten and taken to Afghanistan in 2003 by American agents in an apparent case of mistaken identity, filed suit in federal court today against George J. Tenet, former C.I.A. director, and three companies said to have been involved in secret flight operations.

The suit came three days after Khaled el-Masri, a 42-year-old Lebanese-born former car salesman, was refused entrance to the United States after arriving Saturday in Atlanta on a flight from Germany with the intention of appearing at a news conference today in Washington. He spoke instead by video satellite link, describing somberly how he was beaten, photographed nude and injected with drugs during five months in detention in Macedonia and Afghanistan.

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El-Masri was born in Kuwait to Lebanese parents and moved to Germany in 1985. El-Masri is married and father of five, on New Year's Eve 2003 he boarded a bus in his hometown of Neu-Ulm in Germany for a holiday across the border in Macedonia. At the border El-Masri was stopped by Macedonian authorities, and his passport was confiscated.

He was detained by local authorities for 23 days and then handed over to what he believes was a team of CIA operatives, and flown to Afghanistan where he was subjected to abuse during four months in captivity.

In late May 2004 put on a plane back to Europe and was left in Albania on a hillside.

More to follow below the fold »»

CBS 60 Minutes: CIA Flying Suspects To Torture?

NEW YORK (CBS) March 6, 2005 -- Two Egyptians living in Sweden, Mohammad Al-Zery and Ahmed Agiza, were arrested by Swedish police and brought to an airport. An executive jet was waiting with a crew of mysterious masked men.

"America security agents just took over," says Tomas Hammarberg, a former Swedish diplomat who pressed for and got an investigation into how the Egyptians disappeared.

"We know that they were badly treated on the spot, that scissors and knives were used to take off their clothes. And they were shackled. And some tranquilizers were put in the back of them, obviously in order to make them dizzy and fall asleep."

An airport officer told 60 Minutes she saw the two men hustled to the plane. She didn't want to be identified, but she had no doubt about where the plane came from: "I know that the aircraft was American registration ... because the 'N' first, on the registration."

The so-called "N" number marks an American plane. Swedish records show a Gulfstream G5, N379P was there that night. Within hours, Al-Zery and Agiza, both of whom had been seeking asylum in Sweden, found themselves in an Egyptian prison. Hammarberg says Sweden sent a diplomat to see them weeks later.


60 Minutes has videotaped a secret jet the CIA
is said to be using to deliver terror suspects to countries
known for torturing people.
Source CBS

What did they tell the diplomat about how they were being treated?

"That they had been treated brutally in general, had been beaten up several times, that they had been threatened," says Hammarberg. "But probably the worst phase of torture came after that first visit by the ambassador. ... They were under electric torture."

The Egyptians say Agiza is an Islamic militant and they sentenced him to 25 years. But Al-Zery wasn't charged. After two years in jail, he was sent to his village in Egypt. The authorities are not allowing interviews.

"The option of not doing something is extraordinarily dangerous to the American people," says Michael Scheuer, who was a senior CIA official in the counterterrorist center. Scheuer created the CIA's Osama bin Laden unit and helped set up the rendition program during the Clinton administration. "Basically, the National Security Council gave us the mission, take down these cells, dismantle them and take people off the streets so they can't kill Americans," says Scheuer. "They just didn't give us anywhere to take the people we captured."

So the CIA started taking suspects to Egypt and Jordan. Scheuer says renditions were authorized by Clinton's National Security Council and officials in Congress, and all understood what it meant to send suspects to those countries.

But doesn't that make the United States complicit in the torture?

"You'll have to ask the lawyers," says Scheuer.

Cross-posted from my diary ::
Bill of Rice ¶ AQ Prisoners Moved to North Africa  

Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice upon her departure to Europe --

    "Good morning. We have received inquiries from the European Union, the Council of Europe, and from several individual countries about media reports concerning U.S. conduct in the war on terror. I am going to respond now to those inquiries, as I depart today for Europe. And this will also essentially form the text of the letter that I will send to Secretary Straw, who wrote on behalf of the European Union as the European Union President."

Bill of Rice - In Accordance With Our Laws Reflecting the Values of the American People  

The captured terrorists of the 21st century do not fit easily into traditional systems of criminal or military justice, which were designed for different needs. We have to adapt. Other governments are now also facing this challenge.

Macedonia Police Murder Seven Immigrants as Partner in U.S. War on Terror

Macedonia's 'mujahideen' - immigrants or terrorists?

SKOPJE (BBC News) March 20, 2002 -- When Macedonian police shot dead seven men earlier this month it was claimed a new front had opened up in the war on terrorism. The men, supposedly of Pakistani origin, were killed in a gun battle just to the north of the capital Skopje, according the Macedonian Interior Ministry.

Their mission, said the Interior Minister Ljube Boskovsi, was to target the US, British and German embassies in the country. "They were aiming at terrorist acts against the most noteworthy embassies in this country, as well as towards people at the top of the government", said Mr Boskovski.

"We knew that there was a large terrorist group in town. And that's why we increased the patrols on the terrain".

Macedonia men cleared of murder

SKOPJE (BBC News) April 22, 2005 -- The prosecution had alleged the killings of six Pakistanis and an Indian in 2002, were ordered by former Interior Minister Ljube Boskovski. Mr Boskovski, due to face unrelated war crimes charges at the UN's Hague tribunal, was charged over allegedly committing war crimes during the 2001 conflict between the Macedonian government and ethnic Albanian rebels.

A court in Macedonia has acquitted four men accused of murdering seven South Asian migrants and making it look as if they were members of an al-Qaeda cell.

The presiding judge said there was insufficient evidence against the men, three of whom are former policemen.

"Treason doth never prosper: what's the reason?
For if it prosper, none dare call it treason."

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Most Americans and a majority of people in Britain and South Korea say torturing terrorism suspects is justified at least in rare instances, according to AP-Ipsos polling.

The United States has drawn criticism from human rights groups and many governments, especially in Europe, for its treatment of terror suspects. President Bush and other top officials have said the U.S. does not torture, but some suspects in American custody have alleged they were victims of severe mistreatment.

The polling, in the United States and eight of its closest allies, found that in Canada, Mexico and Germany people are divided on whether torture is ever justified. Most people opposed torture under any circumstances in Spain and Italy.

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one man's conspiracy is another man's business plan
Blog updated as needed
by DuctapeFatwa (DuctapeFatwa@yahoo.com) on Tue Dec 6th, 2005 at 07:37:42 PM EST

he boarded a bus in his hometown of Neu-Ulm in Germany for a holiday across the border in Macedonia

Eh?? Either the NYT's or my geography is severely challenged.

by Londonbear (bearATzooDOTcoDOTuk) on Tue Dec 6th, 2005 at 09:18:46 PM EST
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My fault - poor edit from article ::

El-Masri ... boarded a bus in his hometown of Neu-Ulm for a holiday in Macedonia. At the border ...

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"Treason doth never prosper: what's the reason?
For if it prosper, none dare call it treason."

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by Oui on Wed Dec 7th, 2005 at 02:59:41 AM EST
[ Parent ]
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meet?

I just don't know what to say of my fellow inhumane Americans anymore:
insanity reigns in the White House.

IT'S TIME TO CLEAN-UP CONGRESS IN 2006!

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LEAVE Iraq to the Iraqis

"Treason doth never prosper: what's the reason?
For if it prosper, none dare call it treason."
 

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by Oui on Tue Dec 6th, 2005 at 07:30:36 PM EST
I think it would be a great experience, so would c.
Maybe here?
by ask on Tue Dec 6th, 2005 at 10:42:23 PM EST
[ Parent ]
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West coast » East coast » Jump the ocean »

Agree with you not in Vegas but close to any National Park or great outdoors would be excellent.

If BooMan chooses to be close to people, in metropole the Netherlands there are - too many - monasteries vacant and offered for conferences.

"Treason doth never prosper: what's the reason?
For if it prosper, none dare call it treason."

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by Oui on Wed Dec 7th, 2005 at 03:14:40 AM EST
[ Parent ]
After Angela Merkel said Tuesday that the US admitted it erred in detaining a German national, Rice's aides challenged her comments, saying they weren't sure "what was in (Merkel's) head" when she said what she did.

Speaking to the press after a meeting with US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice in Berlin Tuesday, Merkel said she had discussed the case of Khaled el-Masri, a Lebanese-born German national who was reportedly abducted by CIA operatives and held in Afghanistan for several months.

"The American administration has admitted that this man was erroneously taken," Merkel told reporters.

But senior US officials, who are travelling with Rice on her European tour, disagreed with Merkel's interpretation. After the news conference, they met with the chancellor's aides and asked for a explanation, saying Rice had not actually admitted to a US mistake over Masri.

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one man's conspiracy is another man's business plan
Blog updated as needed
by DuctapeFatwa (DuctapeFatwa@yahoo.com) on Tue Dec 6th, 2005 at 10:48:28 PM EST
Looks like that new relationship between Germany and the US is going strikingly well.
by James Benjamin (the_bokononist at yahoo dot com) on Wed Dec 7th, 2005 at 12:37:23 AM EST
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Condi with Merkel: Confessions of a Dangerous Mind?
by Saturday @EuroTrib ◊ Tue Dec 6th, 2005

Condoleeza Rice's visit to Berlin was much anticipated by us all here and by all people who want to know the facts behind the CIA "rendition" scandal. As far as I am concerned, I am glad to say: I am not disappointed.

After her meeting with Rice, Merkel said that "the American administration has admitted this man has been erroneously taken."

But after she left Berlin, Rice's staff members told a Reuters reporter that "we do not know what had crossed Merkel's mind" when she said that.

Meaning: They accused Merkel of being either deaf or a liar. Nice start into the much-anticipated new US-German relationships, I would say.  

Der Spiegel Story ::
"Everyone Knew What Was Going On in Bondsteel"

Princess Warrior

Captain America and the Crusade against Evil

"Treason doth never prosper: what's the reason?
For if it prosper, none dare call it treason."

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by Oui on Wed Dec 7th, 2005 at 05:04:39 AM EST
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Merkel Says Minister Must Report on Alleged Abduction

Dec. 6 (Bloomberg) -- German Chancellor Angela Merkel said her foreign minister must tell parliament what the previous government knew about the alleged kidnapping of a German citizen by the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency.

Merkel today made the announcement after talks with U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice in Berlin. A press conference after the talks was dominated by the subject of alleged CIA flights carrying suspected terrorists to secret prisons using European airspace.


Der Spiegel

The German newspaper Sueddeutsche Zeitung today reported that Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder's office, under current foreign minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier, knew about the CIA's alleged kidnapping in Macedonia of a German, Khaled el-Masri, and his deportation to Afghanistan in 2003.

"It is desirable for Foreign Minister Steinmeier in the name of the previous government to give a report" on the case to a parliamentary oversight committee, Merkel said. Merkel said she had discussed the case with Rice, saying "the U.S. had conceded" that seizing el-Masri was "a mistake".

"Treason doth never prosper: what's the reason?
For if it prosper, none dare call it treason."

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by Oui on Wed Dec 7th, 2005 at 07:44:16 AM EST
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Today Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice will not be amongst friends when all FM of the Atlantic Alliance meet in Brussels. Answering questions before Dutch parliament on Tuesday 6 December, FM Bernhard Bot declared the answers received so far from Ms Rice are clearly insufficient.

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FM Bot stated there will be tough questioning inside the NATO meeting, and the first chance to meet Condi Rice face to face. There cannot be any light between our definition of human rights and what binds the United States government. Commentators in the Dutch media have lambasted statements of Condoleezza Rize, indicating adherence to U.S. laws and international obligations is quite different to International Human Rights and binding International Treaties of the Geneva Conventions.

  • FM Bot on Nominee John Bolton  
  • FM Bot Reluctant to Send Troops to Uruzgan, Afghanistan
  • NATO - Profile Jaap de Hoop Scheffer

    "Treason doth never prosper: what's the reason?
    For if it prosper, none dare call it treason."
     

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  • by Oui on Wed Dec 7th, 2005 at 08:58:35 AM EST

    reconnaisance flights over Syria?

    I didn't think so.

    one man's conspiracy is another man's business plan
    Blog updated as needed

    by DuctapeFatwa (DuctapeFatwa@yahoo.com) on Wed Dec 7th, 2005 at 09:06:37 AM EST
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    about this story is that Swedish poice participated. This is disturbing, and probably why the Swedes waited two weeks to send a diplomat to check on the men.

    Sorry if I'm repeating someone's remark.

    Regarding the swedes, it is sad to see that even there, global economics outways decency.

    by duranta (yocandra42@hotmail.com) on Wed Dec 7th, 2005 at 12:12:40 PM EST
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    Cross-posted from my diary --
    Malawi - Bot - Cheney - EU criticism  An Overview and Update

    CIA Flights They Gripe About?
    Here's Europe's AGREEMENT for them

    The meeting gave the US permission for "renditions" -- kidnapping Muslims off the streets of Europe -- and CIA flights to take them to prison without trial (and, it turns out, to torture). Here's the link -pdf file.

    Furthermore, the US has secret CTICs -- joint-venture spy nests -- in over 25 countries!

    Condoleeza Rice is right, Gerhard Schroeder is wrong: The secret services in these countries certainly knew what we were doing because they were doing it with us! I will list the countries I know about.

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    Bombardier Dash 8-Q315 at Mazar i Sharif -
    OAMS in Afghanistan Registration N505LL
    May 8, 2003
    Photo Richard Potts

    DIA & Israeli Spying

    My personal view, I find nothing in the document that leads to extrajudicial rendition and CIA torture flights.

    "Treason doth never prosper: what's the reason?
    For if it prosper, none dare call it treason."

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    by Oui on Thu Dec 15th, 2005 at 12:17:26 PM EST


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