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Italian regional elections: the left is smashing the right!

by Donna in Rome
Mon Apr 4th, 2005 at 01:53:08 PM EST

I'm so excited, it's great to finally feel good about some election results... I'm just expanding here on a couple of comments I made to a thread on dKos... news is still developing, it's dinner time over here, and I can't stay online very long, so please be patient with what little I have to say.

The results of the Italian regional (and some provincial) elections are being tallied up, and the center-left "Unione" is cleaning up practically in all but a couple of regions (winning 11 out of 13!).

First of all, even though it's not totally over or official yet, what I consider the most astounding and exciting surprise result is what is probably taking place in Puglia (Apulia) -- deep down in "macho" (as journalist Lucia Annunziata just mentioned) southern Italy: apart from being a candidate of Rifondazione Comunista (the most left-wing part of the center-left coalition), the probable winning candidate, Nichi Vendola, is also openly gay!

As Annunziata said, this is both historic - the first gay regional governor in Italy - and proof that Italian society has progressed much more than anyone (especially Berlusconi's right) might have suspected.

I did hear a really asinine comment from a right-winger in an interview on TV here this afternoon, when they were discussing the first exit polls. He attributed the exit poll results (which already gave the center-left as victorious in most cases) as a result of the people's depressed mood after the death of the Pope! Good grief, as if people were grieving at the polls, and were able to (miraculously?) pull out a vote, but then not connect when it came time to answer an exit poll? What kind of ass-backward logic is that? Someone else (also a right-winger) said, very solemnly, that the Pope's death had definitely "influenced" the vote. At most I would have thought that there could have been a bit of a fall in voter turnout (I, myself, almost forgot yesterday); but instead, the turnout has been quite high (71.4%). But one thing that is sure is that whoever went to vote did not change their vote at the last minute, or lose their mind when they went to answer a question, just because the Pope died.

Luckily no one over here tried to say that the exit polls might have been very far off-kilter; and indeed, it seems they've been pretty much right on target (which is the way it should be, isn't it?).

These elections have nothing to do with the Parliament or the actual national government. But the results do show that the voters are no longer leaning to the right, also because they have punished even some incumbent center-right governors who had supposedly governed their regions fairly well (although I can't confirm or deny that).

So, even though the center-right is denying it, these elections have become a nationwide stance and message against Berlusconi and his cronies and politics, whether they like it or not.

The fact is, people are getting fed up with the economic situation here, the fact that Berlusconi & Co. pass laws for their own benefit, and that they've started to mess with the Italian Constitution (sound familiar?). That has been pointed out as one of the main reasons for the Italian citizens' disapproval. Some in the U.S. seem to be attributing the change in the voters' mood to the international scene: the war in Iraq (and recent relations/disputes with Blair & Bush), the Sgrena affair, etc. These may have been the straw that broke the camel's back, but strangely enough I haven't heard them even mentioned in the commentary and political analyses on TV yet.

As former "Clean Hands" judge Antonio Di Pietro said, in order to get elected, the campaigning Berlusconi had made it sound as if everyone would be better off with him in office when, in the end, it's only Berlusconi himself and a few of his buddies who are better off. As they say,"You can fool all of the people some of the time..."



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This is great news for all of us in Europe!

We were all expecting a center-left victory but, if confirmed, it's a landslide!

Here is a link to the results map

Viva Italia!

"ne te courbe que pour aimer..." René Char

by Melanchthon on Mon Apr 4th, 2005 at 02:10:15 PM EST
Thank you for the link, which can be useful for others... I was too much in a rush to do any web searching and linking, and just reported what I was hearing on TV.

Thanks again.  :-)

"Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it." - Mark Twain

by Donna in Rome on Mon Apr 4th, 2005 at 02:17:46 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Nice headline - hope we will see more of this kind, in the UK too. Finally a silver lining on the horizon.

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by Fran on Mon Apr 4th, 2005 at 09:48:50 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Thank goodness. I was worried over the past few years, when it seemed that just about every govt in Europe was turning rightward. Cool on the first openly gay governor too.

Every excuse in the book is made when citizens vote out right wingers, from fear of terrorism to now, the Pope. Anything but, that is, the fact that their policies and results may just be deplorable.

Anyway, congrats!

(P.S. What do three little boxes on the poll results say? the ones giving (I guess) the parties, and the numbers.)

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by Nanette (nanette at humanbeams dot com) on Mon Apr 4th, 2005 at 03:21:54 PM EST
The dark blue box on the top says : centre-right
The red one says : centre-left
The light blue one says : still undecided

The numbers are the number of regions for each party.

Basilicata region votes later. It is currently held by the left and will most probably remain so.


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by Melanchthon on Mon Apr 4th, 2005 at 03:31:55 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Thanks. Wow! Talk about a landslide...

Does Italy hold it's national elections anytime soon? And will this have a likely effect on .. on... I can't spell his name without looking it up?

Maybe you guys should do an election/political landscape diary series too, when you get the time :)

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by Nanette (nanette at humanbeams dot com) on Mon Apr 4th, 2005 at 03:56:56 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Under the English-language version of the Italian Constitution, Part II (Organization of the Republic), Title I (Parliament), Section I (The Houses), Article 60, "The Chamber of Deputies and the Senate of the Republic are elected for five years."  This would presumably only be shortened by a vote of no-confidence by one or both of the Houses -- Chamber of Deputies or Senate.

Since the last national/parliamentary elections were in May 2001, one should reasonably expect the next elections to take place just over a year from now.  Until then, Berlusconi probably gets to stay in place, barring an unforeseen implosion within his coalition.

by The Maven on Mon Apr 4th, 2005 at 04:25:28 PM EST
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Aha, thanks. I wasn't sure if they had the same system as other places, where they seem to just call elections whenever.

If it's not that far away, hopefully he will get washed away in the tide of this vote-left feeling.

Of course, that would probably depend on his having a strong opposition? It's distressing that in so many countries (including the US) you hear "there is no real opposing party" or no one that stands out as someone who could get elected.

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by Nanette (nanette at humanbeams dot com) on Mon Apr 4th, 2005 at 04:29:32 PM EST
[ Parent ]
And clicking on the name of any region brings up the actual vote tallies for that region, along with further links to other charts, exit poll numbers/projections and results from prior elections.  Lots of really useful stuff on the site, though it certainly helps to be able to fumble one's way through Italian.

Without going through each region's numbers, it looks as though generally the center-left coalition gained approximately 7% as compared against the last regional elections five years ago, pretty much all of it at the expense of Berlusconi's center-right coalition.

As the 2000 regional elections were seen as presaging Berlusconi's return to power, let's hope that this is a sign that he'll be swept away in the next parliamentary elections.  Goodbye and good riddance to crony capitalism.

by The Maven on Mon Apr 4th, 2005 at 04:03:49 PM EST
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"Goodbye and good riddance to crony capitalism".

I second that!  

by CabinGirl on Tue Apr 5th, 2005 at 06:51:17 AM EST
[ Parent ]
that the Exit Polls actually had it right? I wonder why.......:-)

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by Euroliberal on Tue Apr 5th, 2005 at 07:26:46 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Thanks - I can feel your excitement. Election fever. I miss it!
by Welshman on Mon Apr 4th, 2005 at 04:42:59 PM EST
Just because they postponed the calling of elections by a day here and you are already having withdrawals.

BTW did you catch this comment over on the Kos?  It is really good I have encouraged him to write a diary.

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by Luam (LuamDK at gmail.com) on Mon Apr 4th, 2005 at 07:56:45 PM EST
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I wonder if higher turn out is always good for the left.  I wonder if the fact that European turn out rates are often 20% higher than the US is related to how far political parties are shifted to the right in America.

the turnout has been quite high (71.4%)
by DavidByron (davidbyron20@yahoo.com) on Mon Apr 4th, 2005 at 07:11:05 PM EST
and the downturn in the economy lately is on everyone's lips.

bearing in mind that italy's aging population still has vivid memories of 'la miseria' befor the great economic leap forward during the 50's and 60's as italy industrialised and suddenly become one of the biggest world economies.

berlusconi got in because he's the 5th richest man in the world, owns and plays the media and sports fever almost every italian is afflicted with, and promised a bigger chicken in everyone's pot, which hasn't happened.

small businessmen voted often against their consciences just to get out of the economic hole, and as always, pacts with the devil are a bad idea.

what really made me laugh was the suggestion people voted left because of the pope dying.

lol!

if there's any truth to this, it's because the pope spoke up against consumerism.

justice will come for beluscrony, as it will for phony blair, and all the others. the limb of delusion they're so far out on is starting to show huge cracks.

reality bites!

Being an adult means knowing that sometimes it's your responsibility, even if it's not your fault. Claude Muncey

by melo on Tue Apr 5th, 2005 at 01:07:32 AM EST
who it was who so very solemnly said that the Pope's death influenced the vote. Yesterday, in the flurry of news, channel-switching, miscellaneous commentary, and various commenters, I had just jotted down the fact of the "analysis" without thinking of where it came from.

It was Bobo Craxi! The son of Bettino Craxi! And the pious, solemn look on his face when he said it was so ridiculous.

Of course you know what kind of brains must be in that head if you remember that Italy must be the only country in the world where the renewed Socialist Party (with Bobo and some of his father's old cronies) is a diehard member of the center-right coalition! It's evidently out of allegiance to the memory of Craxi Sr., and his friendship with Berlusconi (Berlusconi's rise to fame, wealth, and financial power took place during Craxi's corrupt reign) -- even though at the time of Craxi Sr., the party was still on the left, where it "normally" should be.

So you've got Berlusconi (whose group always criticizes how many different "pieces" the center-left coalition has, pointing the finger specifically at Rifondazione Comunista as if it were a radical fringe group) with a "Casa delle Libertà" (what a horrible, pompous-assed name!) group that ranges from the Socialist Party to the former fascist, ex-MS, DN and the separatist Lega Nord. His Forza Italia group has even appropriated the word "liberal" to describe themselves, the center-right!

Anyway, it's only one more proof that the surviving (and/or resuscitated) culprits of the "Clean Hands" "Tangentopoli" scandals are now alive and well in the center-right, where they can be sure that attempts will be be made to pass laws meant to protect them, not hunt them down and put them in jail.

"Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it." - Mark Twain

by Donna in Rome on Tue Apr 5th, 2005 at 01:31:33 AM EST
[ Parent ]
What would this mean for Italy's support of sending troops to Iraq?

To thine own self be true. W.S.
by sybil on Tue Apr 5th, 2005 at 08:13:32 AM EST
the Berlusconi government will want to ignore the message sent it with the vote.

In any case, the people of Italy were never pro-war, and some of the biggest antiwar demonstrations and cool initiatives took place here. Berlusconi did what he wanted anyway, evidently more concerned with bonding with Bush and making sure he'd be visible on the international scene by being buddies with the big kids (in this case bullies) on the playground, and obviously interested in trying to make a name for himself for posterity as an international statesman. His ego knows no limits.

"Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it." - Mark Twain

by Donna in Rome on Tue Apr 5th, 2005 at 01:31:52 PM EST
[ Parent ]
This is great news! I love your headline, Donna - makes me wistful for what could have been 6 months ago or so. The news of an openly gay governor - wow! This is very exciting for the people of Italy, I know, and we feel your excitement!
by Mindmouth (Mindmouth99@yahoo.com) on Tue Apr 5th, 2005 at 01:51:33 PM EST


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