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Bandar Retires, a New Spook Arrives

by BooMan
Wed Jul 20th, 2005 at 08:43:24 PM EST

It's the end of an era as Prince Bandar-Bush has resigned his post as U.S. Ambassador. His replacement, Prince Turki, has an interesting perpective on the war in Iraq.

"No matter how exalted the aims of the U.S. in the [Iraq] war, in the final analysis it was a colonial war very similar to the wars conducted by the ex-colonial powers when they went out to conquer the rest of the world."- Turki al Faisal- the new Saudi ambassador to the United States.

Prince Turki is a complex and thoughtful man, who headed up Saudi Arabia's intelligence services for 25 years. That means he is intimately familiar with the CIA, and our other intelligence agencies. He an insider's insider, just as Prince Bandar was before him.

Speaking of which, wouldn't you like a peek inside these briefcases?

A few months after September 11th, Bandar went to Aspen, where he has a thirty-two-room mansion. A major part of his success, one foreign leader told me, was that Bandar could be trusted to convey King Fahd's private views when they differed from his public statements. Bandar had gone to Aspen to relax, but also to do a little housecleaning in a place that has fewer diversions than Washington. He had brought with him sixteen of thirty or so locked attache cases that he keeps in McLean. They contain evidence of the covert operations and secret agreements that Bandar coordinated at the behest of King Fahd and the United States, mostly during the Reagan era - such as records of a Swiss bank account that Bandar had personally set up for the Nicaraguan Contras.

Both Prince Bandar and Prince Turki know enough secrets to put the whole Reagan administration in jail for life. And that bodes well for continuing 'good' relations between the Bushistas and Saudi Royal Family.



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I'm reading the piece linked via "briefcases."  Tragic ... the Palestinian failure.

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by susanhu (susanhuatearthlinkdotnet) on Wed Jul 20th, 2005 at 08:47:35 PM EST
on the broken link.  Fixed now.
by BooMan on Wed Jul 20th, 2005 at 08:51:12 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Prince Turki -- does he get teased a lot about his name?

Hickok: "You know the sound of thunder. Can you imagine that sound if I ask you to? Ma'am, listen to the thunder."
by susanhu (susanhuatearthlinkdotnet) on Wed Jul 20th, 2005 at 09:10:08 PM EST
He got very indignant when I (innocently) spelled it "Turkey" or something like that. I doubt Prince Turki gets teased about it much; apart from the fact that you don't tease princes who can have you beheaded, "Turki" is a pretty common name in Saudi Arabia, although I don't know whether it has any reference to the country we know as Turkey or not.

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by Our Man in Redmond (omir.the.storyteller -DORT- gmail -ART- com) on Thu Jul 21st, 2005 at 12:23:23 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Bush's oil buddies apply for turkee, eh?

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by Nonpartisan on Thu Jul 21st, 2005 at 02:14:43 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Remember when all those Saudi princes were getting killed off? Lots of different reasons, but many dead within the space of a year or so. Strange... of course, I still wonder about all the dead scientists too ;).

Our relationship with the Saudis is just one more thing that is putting us (and their own 'subjects') in great danger. Doesn't matter who it is, Democrat or Republican, it seems... and while a good portion of it does have to do with oil, I think part of it is that they know where the bodies are buried, as you said (sort of).

Then again... a lot of money relationships back and forth as well.. lots of Saudi investment in things in the US, and probably many other places in the world. Ah well, that's capitalism for you, I guess.

Why briefcases, by the way, I wonder? Seems it would be more efficient to at least carry that much material around in suitcases. It's not as if he has to actually carry any of them himself or anything.

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by Nanette (nanette at humanbeams dot com) on Wed Jul 20th, 2005 at 09:47:07 PM EST
I sent this to Jpol, who wrote:

This could be fairly significant.  I think the House of Saud is very frightened of being deposed.  Remember, we are the "great Satan" over there (not without some justification), and Prince Bandar is known to be joined at the hip to Dubya.  I don't think the Saudi Royal family has any intention of distancing itself from Dubya, but they may want to present that impression to the legions of Saudis who are not happy with either the Saudi Royal family, or their coziness with Bush.


Hickok: "You know the sound of thunder. Can you imagine that sound if I ask you to? Ma'am, listen to the thunder."
by susanhu (susanhuatearthlinkdotnet) on Wed Jul 20th, 2005 at 10:50:20 PM EST
Bandar has been playing the good cop in collecting payoffs for the many extralegal enterprises that the Saudis sponsored for Republican Presidents and other rogue operatives.

The niceties of American democracy limit Saudi control of this asset now verging on implosion. The logic of investment dictates that soon, managing appearances will no longer take precedence over the raw exercise of power.

The rogue network is at war with the intelligence services that still report to Congress. Even with Negroponte fronting, this fight could pit the Saudis against the American public, and call for harsh measures that don't fit Bandar's style.

We wrote their manual.

by macdust on Thu Jul 21st, 2005 at 05:32:36 AM EST
[ Parent ]
I guess Bandar will now finally stop trying to buy Barbi Benton's and George Gradow's home in Aspen.

Prince Turki's deployment to replace Bandar is a signal that the relations between the US and the Saudis are on a steep downward path, no doubt a part of the results of the Bush regime's destabilization program in the MidEast.

Methinks very expensive oil coming very soon now.

Denial is our most dangerous adversary.

by sbj on Wed Jul 20th, 2005 at 10:57:19 PM EST
Holy Toledo!  Turki al-Faisal bin Abdul Aziz is the new ambassador???  Uh this is something mighty curious.

Turki is one of the Sudairi Seven.  He also has a disturbing number of ties to Osama bin Laden, which would require me to write an entire diary to explain but click here to start.

And forget the Osama stuff, why would Abdullah send Turki outside the country? Sounds to me like Fahd is in rough shape and something's about to go down.

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by soj on Thu Jul 21st, 2005 at 01:02:06 AM EST
Oops it's early and I got my princes mixed up.  The ambassador is Turki Al-Faisal bin Abd Al-Aziz Al Saud but the "Sudairi Seven" member is Turki bin Abdulaziz Al-Saud.

Everything I said about Osama goes to the Turki who is now the ambassador in America tho :(

Pax

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by soj on Thu Jul 21st, 2005 at 01:08:10 AM EST
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 Paraphrasing from "The Outlaw Bank" (BCCI) --by Time mag reporters Jonathan Beaty and S.C. Gywne--  who mention that Prince Turki is a cousin of Bandar, and both of them are nephews of Kamal Adham, who was head of Saudi intelligence at the same time that Bush Sr was head of the CIA.  Kamal was also called The Saudi Vice President. (1976) The Bush Sr. CIA had helped the Saudi intel to modernize during that time.

During the BCCI scandal Adham spoke to a Saudi audience in 1992 and said that BCCI was more than a bank...it was a bank that owned banks, and it was a bank to allow the third world to get around the restrictions of the first world monitoring and forbidding.

He then claimed that Pakistan had a nuclear weapon. Previously, when the level of money laundering for drug and arms and more became known, Adham had hired the asst. of White House Chief of Staff John Sununu who had just quit his position (conveniently) to open a private practice. Adham paid Edward M. Rogers, Jr. the asst., $600k over two years.

But when Bush Sr. was asked for a reaction of Adham's statement about Pakistan's nuclear weapon (that BCCI helped to create.), Bush Sr. got word to the White House press corp that he knew nothing about Kamal Adham.

"The Reagan Administration, intent on continuing military aid to Pakistan during the Afghanistan War ( military aid to OBL, too,  as we now know), turned a blind eye, since U.S. law prohibited aid for military sales to nonnuclear countries known to be developing nuclear weapons...

In 1988/89, Bush was constrained to certify that Pakistan still did not 'possess a nuclear explosive device,' to continue justifying aid to Pakistan...at that time the third largest recipient of American aid...

...when Russia pulled out of Afghanistran, suddenly Bush made sure US aid was cut off."

 (which may explain some of the issues with the ISI)

According to the authors, Adham also knew that the White House was aware of all of BCCI's activities, and had known for a while...because the CIA was using BCCI too...

by fauxreal on Thu Jul 21st, 2005 at 01:07:14 AM EST
Raw Story has this story linked up to its homepage.  congrats :)

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