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Spineless Dems Whine to the Times

by BooMan
Sat Jan 14th, 2006 at 04:38:53 PM EST

The New York Times does an autopsy on the American judiciary. The money quote?

"Had she not cried, we would have won that day," said one Senate strategist involved in the hearings, who did not want to be quoted by name discussing the Democrats' problems at the hearing. "It got front-page attention. It was on every local news show."

For the love of Christ. It only gets worse.

Democrats said, Mr. Bush - even at time when many of his other initiatives seem in doubt and when he had been forced by conservatives to withdraw his first choice for the seat - appeared on the verge of achieving what he has set as a primary goal of his presidency: a fundamental reshaping of the federal judiciary along more conservative lines. Mr. Bush has now appointed one-quarter of the federal appeals court judges, and, assuming Judge Alito is confirmed, will have put two self-described conservatives on a Supreme Court that has only two members appointed by a Democratic president.

"They have made a lot of progress," said Ronald A. Klain, a former Democratic chief counsel for the Judiciary Committee and the White House counsel in charge of judicial nominations for President Bill Clinton. "I hate to say they're done because Lord only knows what's next. They have achieved a large part of their objective."

Asked if he had any hope that Democrats could slow President Bush's effort to push the court to the right, Mr. Klain responded: "No. The only thing that will fix this is a Democratic president and more vacancies. It takes a long time to make these kinds of changes and it's going to take a long time to undo them."

Senator Charles E. Schumer, a New York Democrat and a member of the Judiciary Committee, said it was now hard to imagine a legislative strategy that could slow Mr. Bush's judicial campaign, assuming vacancies continue to emerge, at least through the end of this year.

"To stop a president on judicial nominations, you either need a Democratic president, a Democratic Senate or moderate Republicans who will break ranks when it's a conservative nominee," Mr. Schumer said. "We don't have any of those three. The only tool we have is the filibuster, which is a very difficult tool to use, and with only 45 Democrats, it's harder than it was last term."

Few Democrats or analysts said they thought that Judge Alito's nomination could ever be blocked, noting that as a rule presidents tended to get their Supreme Court nominees approved by the Senate. "It may be a mistake to think that their failure demonstrates that they necessarily did something wrong," said Richard H. Fallon, a professor of constitutional law at Harvard Law School. Referring to one of the major Democratic complaints about Judge Alito's testimony, Mr. Fallon said: "As long as most of the public will settle for evasive or uninformative answers, maybe there was nothing that they could have done to get Alito to make a major error."

How about you just filibuster Alito? Is that so fucking difficult? The Dems act so helpless. Get a spine and whip your causus into line.



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May as well be an autopsy on the death of democracy.

What all of these clowns, D's and R's alike, refuse to acknowledge, or even contemplate, is that they are sealing their own fates as well as those of the country.  If they think that somehow they will benefit from this as a whole, it gives a completely new meaning for the term cognitive dissonance...first they came for...you know the ending.

BushCo™ has already proven their disdain for the rule of law and the historic value of a system of checks and balances.

The legislature, congress, whatever...is becoming irrelevant and is willingly acting as the instrument of their own demise.

Hope is increasingly difficult to find.

Peace

lTMF'sA...the revolution will not be televised...Peace

by dada on Sat Jan 14th, 2006 at 04:54:55 PM EST
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by judybrowni (judybrowni@usa.net) on Sat Jan 14th, 2006 at 07:52:06 PM EST
[ Parent ]
by judybrowni (judybrowni@usa.net) on Sun Jan 15th, 2006 at 04:10:54 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Whaaaaaat????????

"As long as most of the public will settle for evasive or uninformative answers, maybe there was nothing that they could have done to get Alito to make a major error."

Nothing??!!!  How about fighting?  Screaming?  Stand on your head if need be.  Whatever it takes, do it!!!  The public has to settle because the Democrats haven't done what is required.  Yell, scream, whatever.  Get all over the airwaves!!!      


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by boran2 (blogistan@yahoo.com) on Sat Jan 14th, 2006 at 05:08:42 PM EST
I'm thinking to myself that for fucks sake why don't the dems as you say filibuster, do something for pete's sake.  Even if that didn't work at least it would let people like us know that they are fucken trying to actually be an opposition party that has a few balls.  

I don't want talking, dithering and bullshit excuses.  I want some action by the dems, even if it's the wrong fucken action at this point but at least for christ sakes do something you mealy mouthed dipshits.

I think the surprise for the dems might be that the backlash isn't going to be against repugs but against all our chickenshit dems.

'Poverty is the worst form of violence'--Gandhi

by chocolate ink on Sat Jan 14th, 2006 at 05:09:13 PM EST

And this is what you get if you don't enforce some kind of ideological purity. Welcome to the Partisan Party, where all that matters is the Party and the Poll.



Kill because somebody was killed. Get killed because he killed. Do you think peace will ever come like that?
by Egarwaen on Sat Jan 14th, 2006 at 05:10:13 PM EST
How are they gonna raise money unless they can whine about how mean, how unethical, how selfish the thugs are compared to the nice, the ethical, the selfless Dems?

I NEED a short, concise, tight, brief bunch of messages, so

I can doorbell my affluent very involved precinct AND at least have them give money to planned parenthood, or Jim McDermott (our congress critter)or ... I don't know.

how do you give money to Howard without supporting the rest of the worthless sacks of shit at the DNC? How do the worthless bastards at the DCCC and DSCC get money? ugh.

It would be nice if it was part of something national.

Example:
$17.76 = Money cuz of howard, the other 32.24 OR 82.24 is NOT going to ANY goddam Dem org ...

I don't know. I got 300 math papers to grade.

r.  

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by rmdSeaBos (sea$$bos$%84 at yah) on Sat Jan 14th, 2006 at 05:12:48 PM EST
woke up this morning with the Democratic blues
spineless and out played from their toupees to their shoes
if you're going to a gun fight
take your white flag and wave it high
if you're challenged, step back, whimper and then go ahead and cry
Oh the Democratic blues are terrible indeed
you loose your heart and self-respect with all deliberate speed
They're as avid and well prepared as a remedial basket-weaving class
They querulously whine a bit when kicked sharply on the ass
Oh when your champions are losers
cowardly and so mild
and befuddled by stratagems that could be predicted by a child
And you know they got instinctive skills to meet each new attack
by pulling out their knives and stabbing their allies in the back
You've got the Democratic blues
and I fear there is no cure
Oh the Democratic blues
they got me down for sure.
by citizen k (trout_in_milk -> yahoo.it) on Sat Jan 14th, 2006 at 05:17:08 PM EST
analyzing the confirmation hearings won't get anywhere. They are corrupted beyond any useful purpose at this point. Imagine one of the questioners Graham actually coached the nominee in the White House. How is that fair? Did anyone of the Republicans ask any question of significance? No it was "Aren't you just wonderful?" The weeping wife is minutiae, so trival it deserves no mention.

So the useless puppet theatre is now just a tired tradition. The truth is, whoever gets to be president, gets to nominate whomever he wants and if that president has got the numbers in the Senate whomever he nominates will be confirmed.

Confirmation hearings went downhill with the Clarence Thomas nomination. And the same parties are still there, Hatch, Spectre, Biden, playing the same weary game.  

To thine own self be true. W.S.

by sybil on Sat Jan 14th, 2006 at 05:33:27 PM EST
Ain't that the truth. The Dems keep falling for the same crap over and over again.
by citizen k (trout_in_milk -> yahoo.it) on Sat Jan 14th, 2006 at 05:39:30 PM EST
[ Parent ]
The truth is, whoever gets to be president, gets to nominate whomever he wants and if that president has got the numbers in the Senate whomever he nominates will be confirmed.

I'm pretty sure that Harriet Miers has a different analysis.
This guy was nominated by the religious right otherwise known as the republican base. 'Oh, my god, she cried, we're dead in the water' is the response of the senate Dems to their base. That and Chuck Schumer's lack of imagination.
 

by the other colleen on Sat Jan 14th, 2006 at 09:11:12 PM EST
[ Parent ]
of Republican Senators supporting her, in advance.

It is a two-part numbers game:

  1. The president nominates
  2. The Senate confirms by over 50 votes.


To thine own self be true. W.S.
by sybil on Sun Jan 15th, 2006 at 01:36:10 AM EST
[ Parent ]
The far right have representatives who advocate their positions and fight for them. Bush had no stomach for a nasty fight. The majority is represented by flaccid, chickenshit, cowardly, bozos who inspire derision not fear. Chuck Schumer, empty suit number 1, seems to be in lifelong campaign for the role of Cowardly Lion.

Yeah, it's sad, believe me Missy
When you're born to be a sissy
Without the vim and verve
But I could show my prowess
Be a lion, not a mowess
If I only had the nerve

I'm afraid there's no denyin'
I'm just a dandylion
In spite of all my rants
But my power suit needs drying
When fists start a flying
I'm pissing in my pants

When Republicans are frettin'
Us Democrats are sweatin'
it puts me out of humor
I could give 'em such a lickin'
if I weren't a giant chicken
shaking chuckie schumer

I can talk as if I was tough
but inside I'm a powder puff
a shaking little wimp
I'd be brave as John Paul Jones
or at least I'd have a backbone
if I wasn't such a putz

by citizen k (trout_in_milk -> yahoo.it) on Sun Jan 15th, 2006 at 12:46:26 PM EST
[ Parent ]
because they know it is a numbers game that they will lose and they fear reprisal from the winners.

To thine own self be true. W.S.
by sybil on Sun Jan 15th, 2006 at 02:19:50 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Quick advice to voters: register or re-register independent. Refuse to throw your support to any politician who refuses to stand for the issues you consider important. If you run into a candidate who is reasonably kosher, give that candidate tentative support to the extent that s/he remains kosher. That was the gist of Malcom X's advice to his followers in his last year of life, in the wake of the continued civil rights abuses perpetrated against blacks. I think it's sage advice for any of us. If the Dems think they got us in their back pocket, they'll continue to act like a bunch of wimps and Eichmanns. Just the way it is.

The Mahatma X Files. Peace With Attitude.
by James Benjamin (the_bokononist at yahoo dot com) on Sat Jan 14th, 2006 at 05:48:29 PM EST
Cognitive dissonance indeed!

"Had she not cried, we would have won that day,"

"As long as most of the public will settle for evasive or uninformative answers, maybe there was nothing that they could have done to get Alito to make a major error."

Yet in how many front page postings and diaries have we read the experts and expressed our observation on how apathetic the public is?

So which is it? A public that settles or a public that doesn't pay attention?

Who is this public? Not me and not you.

Yet when I read this stuff - I begin to believe it too - and the result? I want to throw up my hands, maybe take a break from the news, find a hobby...

Can you say "ma-nip-u-la-tion?"

If you haven't, I strongly recommend that you read MilitaryTracy's Diary, Funked.

Something we love is dying.

What do we do?


Those who dance are considered insane by those who can't hear the music. (George Carlin)

by tampopo on Sat Jan 14th, 2006 at 06:10:19 PM EST
I'll let George Axelrod do the talking, here:

             
                                 MRS. ISELIN
                Tom, I know you have very strong
                personal feelings about Johnny.  And
                about me.  What I would like to find
                out is how strong they really are.  
                To put it as simply as possible, if
                Johnny's name were put forward at the
                convention next week, would you
                attempt to block him?

                                SENATOR JORDAN
                You're joking, of course?

                                MRS. ISELIN
                Mr. Stevenson makes jokes.  I do not.

                                SENATOR JORDAN
                You're seriously trying for the
                nomination for Johnny?

                                MRS. ISELIN
                No.  We couldn't make it.  But I
                think he has a good chance for the
                second spot.  I've answered your
                question but you haven't answered
                mine.

                                SENATOR JORDAN
                What question?

                                MRS. ISELIN
                Will you block us?

                                SENATOR JORDAN
                Will I block you?    I would spend
                every cent I own and all I could
                borrow to block you.  There are
                people who think of Johnny as a
                clown and a buffoon.  But I do not.  
                I despise John Iselin and everything
                that Iselinism has come to stand for.  
                I think if John Iselin were a paid
                Soviet agent he could not do more to
                harm this country than he's doing
                now.
 You asked me a question.  Very
                well.  I'll answer you.  If you
                attempt to deal with the delegates
                or cause Johnny's name to be brought
                forward on the ticket or if in my
                canvass of the delegates tomorrow
                morning by telephone I find that
                you're so acting, I will bring
                impeachment proceedings against your
                husband on the floor of the United
                States Senate.  And I will hit him,
                I promise you, with everything in my
                well-documented book.

This scene has run over and over in my mind in recent years. We have Democrats who seem to be taking their marching orders from the GOP, and a president who couldn't be doing more damage to the Constitution if he were dipping his hand into the al Queda suggestion box.

Sigh.


"If Adolph Hitler flew in today, they'd send a limousine anyway" -- Joe Strummer

by urizon (cognitivediss@gmail.com) on Sat Jan 14th, 2006 at 07:05:17 PM EST
Evidently the Democrats never expected the Republicans to use any spin or theatrics in the process, since they reminded us to be dignified. This suggests that they probably also don't expect Alito to be an extreme Justice, since as the Republicans remind us he wasn't an extreme witness.

It'd be nice if there were a way for the Democrats to learn what everyone else shown below understands about the Republicans.

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We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King, "Beyond Vietnam"

by Gooserock on Sat Jan 14th, 2006 at 07:09:46 PM EST


We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King, "Beyond Vietnam"
by Gooserock on Sat Jan 14th, 2006 at 07:12:00 PM EST
[ Parent ]
In the children's books "A series of unfortunate events" there are often well-meaning and ineffectual adult characters who repeatedly offer the children a moment of hope, but always cave in to the nasty plans of the evil adults. It's easy to imagine Joe Biden and Pat Leahy in one of those books. They never understand that it's not enough to mean well and say the right thing.
 
by citizen k (trout_in_milk -> yahoo.it) on Sat Jan 14th, 2006 at 08:33:02 PM EST
[ Parent ]

and to an extent, in politics anywhere,saying the "right thing," or even the wrong thing if it is phrased and orated skillfully enough, seems to be pretty much all that is required.

Well, naturally, they must do the bidding of their corporate sponsors, that is, after all, why they are there.

But as far as the voters and their devotees are concerned, stirring speeches of pretty words are like designer jeans to a thirteen year old girl. She may not care if she has a warm jacket or whether the jeans fall apart in the wash. ;)

one man's conspiracy is another man's business plan
Blog updated as needed

by DuctapeFatwa (DuctapeFatwa@yahoo.com) on Sat Jan 14th, 2006 at 08:45:40 PM EST
[ Parent ]
this whining reminds me of hte whining about the swift boat liars,

or the whining about the lies about the various florida vote fiascoes,

or the whining about the lies about willie horton,

or the whining about the lies about getting the government off the backs of the people ...

I am SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO fed up with the Dems ...

rmm.

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by rmdSeaBos (sea$$bos$%84 at yah) on Sun Jan 15th, 2006 at 02:22:34 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Torture, rendition, mass murder, invading nations illegally....these are the things Alito and Bush support and they are not as awful as a woman in tears.

Hilliary should take a cue. During her forthcoming debates she merely needs to shed tears when she is attacked by mean old John McCain and walk off the stage....or maybe it could be the other way around.

Crying like a baby gets you what you want in the self indulgent world of America...

by Stu Piddy on Sat Jan 14th, 2006 at 07:12:45 PM EST
Yeah, then maybe we'll get a single-payer health care plan in this country.  Want some citizen support for one?
Hell, I'll cry with you, as will many others who were fucked over by Medicare D.

And establish one by goddamn executive order!!!!!

"First, they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win." Mahatma Gandhi

by Street Kid on Sat Jan 14th, 2006 at 08:03:00 PM EST
[ Parent ]
When your democracy inhales for the last time and repugs finally finds out what it means, you bet the Democrats will get the blame.

It's fucking hilarious watching what happens in the USA these days. It's a fucking shame.

by high5 (high5104@yahoo.com) on Sat Jan 14th, 2006 at 05:02:45 PM EST
Why the hell don't they just admit to caving in?  Jesus Christ,  tell the truth for once, and maybe, just maybe, you'll regain some respect from me!!!

"First, they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win." Mahatma Gandhi
by Street Kid on Sat Jan 14th, 2006 at 07:44:33 PM EST
would the repubs role over and let a democrat president slip a pro-choice judge through without a fight?
by observer393 on Sat Jan 14th, 2006 at 10:14:55 PM EST
Dems need to be held accountable-just like any other public servants-They DO NOT get a pass because they have a D after their names,especially if they are obvious sellouts-plenty of them have been in office for WAAAY too long- lost touch and got rich.
Although I think it is not a good thing to elect millionaires (in general) there were a few,think FDR and Kennedy, who were not beholden to contributers,and so could actually act in the public interest.
It's the ones who BECOME millionaires in the process that you have to watch out for.
Reagan is a prime example of that- the repubs MADE him rich- and used him as a tool-just like what happened with Bu$hie-poo.
All this going on about yanking yourself up  by your bootstraps-is so much claptrap,ask any one who has never been a useful tool-unlike that A-hole Clarence Thomas.
by shycat (painebillATHotmail) on Sun Jan 15th, 2006 at 01:37:16 PM EST


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