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Red State: Used Car Salesmen

by BooMan
Tue Nov 28th, 2006 at 11:15:34 AM EST

Over at Red State they ran a poll on what our best option is in Iraq. Here are the results.

Cut and Run
11% (62 votes)
S-U-M-M-I-T
3% (19 votes)
Stay the Course
9% (52 votes)
Can we unleash hell yet?
63% (357 votes)
Redeploy to the country of Kurdistan (which we create by fiat) and wait six months.
14% (78 votes)
Total votes: 568

This is what the teaching of the American myth does to the people that are subjected to it. Sixty-three percent of Red Staters think we have not yet unleashed hell, but that it is now our best option to do so. Another fourteen percent think we should create a Kurdistan by fiat. I doubt any of these 77% of respondents have ever questioned our right to go around unleashing hell and creating countries by fiat. And if we ever get attacked again, I doubt any of them will be able or willing to marry up the cause and effect of the event. In their mind, it is our right to do whatever we want to do. We can invade a country under false pretenses. We can rip up all their contracts and sell off all their state-owned property. We can carve out little nations out of bigger ones. If they don't like it, we can unleash hell. And if we are hated for it, it is not our doing, but a result of Islamic fascism. If they make us uncomfortable, we will just kill more of them and turn the desert into glass.

Here's a typical comment from the Red State thread:

I'd destroy every mosque whose imams promote violence, and do it with pork products.

ALL allied ordinace would be slathered with pork fat, and loaded down with ampules of bacon cologne.

All terrorists' remains would be buried by the military with pork products, especially pork weiners, and a pigskin shroud.

Anyone considered target worthy of being kidnapped by terrorists would have their clothing and skin be pork slathered and saturated.

This type of thinking is a direct result of a total lack of self-reflection on how our policies effect other people. It's too simple to accuse the left of hating America. We love America as much as anyone. But we don't look at it with rose-colored glasses. We are not always in the right. Our leaders' motives are not always altruistic or noble. Some people have legitimate problems with how we conduct our foreign policy. And I don't mean just Bush's foreign policy, but our foreign policy since World War Two. Winning the Cold War doesn't atone for sixty-years of failed policy in Iran, in Vietnam, in Angola, in Central America, in the Middle East...

Hunter S. Thompson put it best, "America...just a nation of two hundred million used car salesmen with all the money we need to buy guns and no qualms about killing anybody else in the world who tries to make us uncomfortable."

That perfectly describes the attitude at Red State.



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They're just echoing their spiritual godfather Rush Limppaw.

A conservative is a man with two perfectly good legs who, however, has never learned how to walk forward. Franklin D. Roosevelt
by Steven D on Tue Nov 28th, 2006 at 11:22:03 AM EST
All the more reason why we have to do what we can to influnce our culture in a civilized direction.

Meanwhile, as the US slides toward barbarism, the southern hemisphere marches toward progress.

by Jaded Prole (partisanpoet@excite.com) on Tue Nov 28th, 2006 at 11:44:36 AM EST
The poll is incomplete.  Choices missing from the poll are:

  1. Pie

  2. Armando sucks

  3. Is something happening in Iraq?


Oh, there you are, Perry. -Phineas -SLB-
by boran2 (blogistan@yahoo.com) on Tue Nov 28th, 2006 at 12:39:45 PM EST
They want to "unleash hell." At the same time, they vehemently attack any report of the hell that has been unleashed.

An awful lot of those tough talkers are unemployed guys in their thirties, who have never had a date, who are still living in their mother's basement--that was the profile of the loser who recently sent fake anthrax around.

One scary thing is that Red State is supposed to be one of the more reputable wingnut sites.

by Arminius on Tue Nov 28th, 2006 at 12:53:22 PM EST
Hating other people does not automatically mean "loving America".

That is such unthink hate ==love.

by redwagon on Tue Nov 28th, 2006 at 01:03:50 PM EST
Everything you've said is true, BUT we have not truly unleashed hell yet.

These clowns think we'll be at the top of the heap if we would only turn the Middle East into glass, so what are we waitin' for?  They're the ones who get all excited when Slim Pickens rides that nuclear missile down into oblivion in Dr Strangelove, which is otherwise commie pinko BS.

Wingnuts see the world in terms of competition and threats - they don't care about other people because they are seen as threats - wingers utterly lack empathy.  Wingnuts live in a survival of the fittest, reptilian world.  They therefore see our nuclear arsenal as our last best hope to end up on top of this mess, regardless of all the worldwide havoc - hell unleashed - this would cause.

by alyosha on Tue Nov 28th, 2006 at 01:16:40 PM EST
Well said Mr. Boo. Kurt Vonnegut said it well, too. I wish I had the quote, but it was something along the lines that ideas were a dangerous thing in the hands of human beings, since we typically evaluate them in terms of whether we want to be considered friends of the person who came up with the idea, rather than whether it was a good idea in the first place. I suspect he would've liked HST's used car salesman analogy, too. ;)

For the curious, it's somewhere roughly at the end of the first third of Breakfast of Champions.... a story about.... a used car salesman.

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We listened to PEN American Center's "State of Emergency" and found 1940s books by Curzio Malaparte only at Alibris. (Selection (MP3) excerpted from "The Skin.")

Alibris - Books You Thought You'd Never Find
Banned Books * Are you a fan of Film Noir, Art House, Documentaries or Hong Kong Action? * Searching for a long-lost children's book or a first printing of Miles Davis' Kind of Blue on vinyl? Find it at Alibris!

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