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I'm Angry Abu Ghraib Photos Were Leaked

by susanhu
Wed Feb 15th, 2006 at 08:01:39 PM EST

This leak has hurt our ability to bring the U.S. government to account.

The premature leaked release of photographs that the Dept. of Defense has been ordered to hand over by a federal judge has deeply harmed the impact, importance, and publicity had these photos been instead released by a recalcitrant, secretive U.S. government.

The ACLU has spent untold hours and money trying to force the U.S. to release these photos. What the ACLU wants -- and what we should want -- is the U.S. government suffering the intense embarrassment of having to show the photographic evidence of its torture policies. Nothing less will do.

Despite its innumerable appeals, perhaps someday the U.S. government would have had to comply with the September 2005 court order (which I wrote about yesterday). I'm patient enough to wait for that historic day when Rummy et al., in a shameful, foot-shuffling (or in Rummy's case, his typical chickenhawk macho bluster), will be forced to hand over the images.

Since these new images have been leaked to the Australian media, the horror of the finally released photos by the U.S. will be severely diminished.

Is this what the U.S. government wanted? Did someone in our government leak these photos precisely to tamp down the impact when all are eventually released? Isn't that possible?

And why, and how, did an Australian TV show get the photos and videos? That's a rather long way from their repository in the D.C. area of the U.S. And that Aussie program is an equivalent in name, at least, and content, probably, to NBC's very pedestrian Natalie-Holloway-Entwistle-O.J.-Robert-Blake "news" program, Dateline NBC. However, its network, Myriad tells us in her comment below, is multi-cultural and the reporter airing the photo story has covered U.S. prison torture and mistreatment, as well as the Iraq war.

I figure that whoever leaked the photos/video to the Australian media did so because it wouldn't get enough press here to be a monster story, but it would get out to the people who are most interested in the story: People like us on this blog, ACLU and Amnesty and CCR members, and the rare officials who are.

The only way I want to see these images/video (Reuters has more) is when we receive all from the U.S. government itself after a judge forces them to reveal the images.

ALSO: We know these -- as bad as they are, including evidence of bullet wounds -- are NOT the worst of the photos, which purportedly (says Seymour Hersh) include photographs of young boys being sodomized and tortured.

See also: the WaPo's "Australian TV Network Airs More Abu Ghraib Photos."



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There is an Australian tv channel called SBS - it was created to serve the non-english speaking people of Australia & our multicultural background in general. As a result it has excellent in-depth news coverage, particularly of international issues & their implications for Australia. Their flagship program in this sense is Dateline, which has been running for 20 years.

An award-winning reporter for Dateline, Olivia Rousset, who has previously covered Abu Ghraib and the Iraq qar in general, was given these photos and videos by the ACLU. The Australian newspapers are sourcing them from the SBS website etc.

here is the transcript of the Dateline program on the new photos & videos of Abu Graib:

REPORTER: Olivia Rousset

These are the photos the American Government doesn't want you to see. While researching a story on guards at Abu Ghraib, I obtained a copy of the unreleased photographs and videos. Taken at the same time as the photos released in 2004 and often of the same abuses, this is the first time they have been shown to the public.

AMRIT SINGH, LAWYER, AMERICAN CIVIL LIBERTIES UNION: We hope that the release of these photographs will bring about further pressure to hold high-ranking officials accountable for what we now know to have been systemic and widespread abuse occurring throughout Iraq, Afghanistan and Guantanamo Bay.

American Civil Liberties Union lawyer Amrit Singh has not seen the photos. The ACLU has taken the Department of Defense to court to force the release of these pictures under the Freedom of Information Act.

AMRIT SINGH: The government has taken the position that the conduct of US soldiers depicted in these photographs is so egregious that the American public cannot have a right to it.
So it is a bizarre position, from our point of view, obviously, because the Freedom of Information Act, under which we are seeking these photographs, is precisely the legislation that was enacted so that the public could find out what its government is up to.

Last September the ACLU won its case but the government immediately appealed, stalling the release of the photos. The government's main argument against their release was that they would stir up anti-American sentiment. Judge Alvin Hellerstein directly responded to this in his decision.

JUDGE ALVIN HELLERSTEIN, STATEMENT: Our nation does not surrender to blackmail, and fear of blackmail is not a legally sufficient argument to prevent us from performing a statutory command. Indeed, the freedoms that we champion are as important to our success in Iraq and Afghanistan as the guns and missiles with which our troops are armed.

In a stinging rebuke to the Pentagon over America's freedom of information, Judge Hellerstein even quoted President Bush's State of the Union speech back at them.

PRESIDENT GEORGE BUSH, STATE OF THE UNION SPEECH: The attack on freedom in our world has reaffirmed our confidence in freedom's power to change the world. We are all part of a great venture to extend the promise of freedom in our country, to renew the values that sustain our liberty and to spread the peace that freedom brings.

What has now emerged is that well before the first pictures were leaked and even before the abuses were photographed, the ACLU had already filed an earlier freedom-of-information request concerning the treatment of detainees at Abu Ghraib.

AMRIT SINGH: And the government ignored that Freedom of Information Act request. At the time we filed our Freedom of Information Act request policies authorising the abuse of detainees had already been put in place, and detainees at Abu Ghraib were being tortured as we were asking for those documents. So it only goes to confirm that not only was what happened at Abu Ghraib horrific for the detainees, horrific for this nation, horrific for the American public to have on its conscience, the government engaged in a massive cover-up of what happened. And that is utterly astounding given that this country is, after all, in the eyes of some, a country which believes in the rule of law.

These are the photos that have already been seen. They were taken within weeks of the ACLU's freedom-of-information request. Images such as the man in the hood with wires attached to his fingers, and Lynndie England with a detainee on a leash were seared into the memory of the public, creating a PR nightmare for the administration's Iraq policy.
When this original batch of photographs was leaked to the press, members of Congress were given a private viewing of the entire set, including the unreleased ones.

SENATOR RICHARD DURBIN: The military dogs and the victim lying on the floor near a pool of blood, with a clear wound on his leg, it is so graphic.

ABC NEWS REPORTER: Several described a gruesome photo of a partially decapitated body, though no-one knew if the photo was taken at the prison or elsewhere in Iraq.

RICHARD SHELBY, REPUBLICAN SENATOR: I saw a horrible picture, it looked like somebody's face had been blown away or beaten away.

Despite some American journalists having seen and referred to these new photographs, none have so far been published.

Many of the new photos show Lynndie England and Charles Graner having sex, but more disturbingly the new photos and video apparently reveal more torture, sexual humiliation and killings seemingly perpetrated by soldiers at Abu Ghraib.

This video shows naked men apparently forced to masturbate in front of the soldiers and their camera.
Based on the American Army's own inquiry we can reveal the following details of the new photographs and videos. This man, listed as 'detainee 10', is thought to be an Iraqi general who was resisting relocation from the outside camp to the cell blocks, known as the hard site, at Abu Ghraib. The report states that he was pushed against a wall at which point guards noticed blood coming from underneath his hood. The 1.5-inch cut on his chin was sutured by a medic. While an army report lists a description of this photo as, "detainee apparently shot by MP personnel with shotgun using less than lethal rounds", the circumstances surrounding the incident are unknown.

An American soldier told me that this man was first held in the camp outside the hard site at Abu Ghraib, and that after causing problems with the other detainees, he was brought into the cells where the high value prisoners were kept. Known to the soldiers as 'shit boy', due to an alleged habit of covering himself in his own faeces, he was left without psychiatric care. He apparently became a plaything of the guards who experimented with ways to restrain him. He's filmed here from several different angles handcuffed to a cell, slamming his head into the metal door. The soldiers chose to film him several times from different angles rather than try to prevent his self-harm.

An American soldier who worked as a guard at Abu Ghraib told me these two women were arrested for working as prostitutes and were held in Abu Ghraib for 48 hours.

AMRIT SINGH: The government documents we have show that the overwhelming majority of detainees held in Abu Ghraib were in all likelihood innocent. So for people who think that, you know, that these detainees got what they deserved and this was just a lawful exercise of executive authority to get information - first of all, these detainees were in all likelihood innocent and secondly, we have documents from the FBI at Guantanamo saying that coercive interrogation techniques are not good at producing actionable intelligence. If anything rapport-building techniques are much better at producing actionable intelligence that can be used to sort of wage the so-called war on terror.

From these original photos we know that this man is Munadel al-Jumaili. These are new photos of his corpse. I was told these two photos were taken in the room, where he was killed whilst under CIA interrogation.
The reason for the deaths of these men is also largely unclear, however, the number next to the corpse of this detainee corresponds to an entry in another army report. He is listed as one of three men killed during a riot in the camp at Abu Ghraib. The riot began when the detainees were protesting their living conditions, which, according, to army reports, were filthy, crowded and dangerous.

Two soldiers from Abu Ghraib have told me that during the riot when the guards ran out of rubber bullets they were ordered to use lethal rounds. The detainees were fenced in a camp compound with nowhere to run or hide.

REPORTER: Any regrets?

SOLDIER: No, ma'am.

REPORTER: Any apologies?

Accountability for the abuses has been sheeted home to seven low ranking guards. These 'bad apples', as Secretary of Defense Rumsfeld called them, are serving various sentences - the longest being 10 years for the ringleader, Charles Graner, and three years for his then lover, Lynndie England.

There have been 10 government investigations into the abuse and torture of detainees in Iraq, Afghanistan and Guantanamo Bay, but no high ranking officials have been held accountable.

REPORTER: What do you think of what happened to those seven soldiers who were charged when the scandal first emerged?

AMRIT SINGH: Well, I think looking at the documents that we have received under the Freedom of Information Act so far, it is very clear to us that the actions of these soldiers were part of a larger program to abuse detainees that was put in place by high ranking officials.

We have consistently called out for an independent commission to evaluate the responsibility of high ranking officials but nothing has been done so far. If anything, these high ranking officials who put in place policies that resulted in the abuse of detainees have been exonerated and promoted.

Americans pride themselves on free speech and open government. This is why Amrit Singh and the ACLU feel these photos should be released.

AMRIT SINGH: The photographs really have to be released so that the public has some idea of what exactly happened at Abu Ghraib. And it has been our position consistently through this litigation that the subject of detainee abuse has been a matter of intense public debate and the appropriate high ranking officials who put the policies in place that resulted in the abuse of detainees have not been held accountable. And it is now for the public to decide for itself, by looking at these documents, what needs to be done.

Can I also just point out that from a non-American point of view, with Australians not only serving in Iraq, but one officer implicated in the Abu Ghraib scandal, we and the rest of the world has just as much right to have investigative journalists do their job, and reveal these photos and their story. These happenings affect my country, and many others, not just the USA.   


"this just can't get more disturbing!" - Willow

by myriad (imogenk at wildmail dot com) on Wed Feb 15th, 2006 at 08:21:06 PM EST
bold emphasis mine above, and here is   a link to Dateline

"this just can't get more disturbing!" - Willow
by myriad (imogenk at wildmail dot com) on Wed Feb 15th, 2006 at 08:24:08 PM EST
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Thanks, Myriad!  I added your info and your name to my story.

However, this:

, I obtained a copy of the unreleased photographs and videos.

That's a leak, unless i missed something else in the story.

Hickok: "You know the sound of thunder. Can you imagine that sound if I ask you to? Ma'am, listen to the thunder."

by susanhu (susanhuatearthlinkdotnet) on Wed Feb 15th, 2006 at 08:56:48 PM EST
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that according to the ACLU lawyer interviewed above, the ACLU apparently absolutely supported and wanted this 'leak'. - IE, you worry that the release of the new pictorial evidence undermines the ACLU's case, yet it is the ACLU that sanctioned it.

From that point of view, and the point I was trying to make, is that this evidence has not been released without the ACLU's knowledge and sanction, so I find it hard to see it as someone trying to undo their case. Rousset clearly went straight to the ACLU when she got hold of the photos etc. and framed the story around their case.

"this just can't get more disturbing!" - Willow

by myriad (imogenk at wildmail dot com) on Wed Feb 15th, 2006 at 09:48:29 PM EST
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I don't see how this undermines the ACLU case, and, as the transcript reveals, they were consulted and in fact participant in the release.

These happenings affect my country, and many others, not just the USA. 
 

I wish more people in the international community would come to this conclusion and act on it in efforts to expose to the rest of the world just what kind of criminality runs rampant  in the federal gov of this country.

It seems to obvious to me that we, the people, do not have the means (in many cases, because we do not have the will) to hold this gov accountable for its actions or to "humiliate" it into doing anything it doesn't want to do.

The more the international community steps up to the plate to remind us and our government that there is a whole, wide world beyond the shores of New York and Los Angeles that is being devastated by our actions, the better.

We need to get a serious grip on the fact that we are not "the world" just a very small but pathetically arrogant part of it.

The rest of the world is not the "playground" of the world--and when the "games" Americans play begin having an effect on everyone else--it is time for the rest of the world to stand up and do whatever they think is appropriate to expose the BS and to get it to stop.

juslilolme at Historical Footnotes

by starkravinglunaticradical (non) on Thu Feb 16th, 2006 at 10:05:17 AM EST
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I think it is a deliberate attempt to distract the public from Dick Cheney's shooting of another  hunter.

"First, they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win." Mahatma Gandhi
by Street Kid on Wed Feb 15th, 2006 at 08:25:17 PM EST
Yes we know that the hunters will begin to riot if we don't divert their attention to less important issues.

"We have always known that heedless self-interest was bad morals; now we know that it is bad economics;" - Franklin Delano Roosevelt
by Salunga on Wed Feb 15th, 2006 at 08:36:52 PM EST
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verbally admitted to concerning the photos.  Just an opinion but these are not the worst of what has been verbally admitted to being part of the photos. It is far from the worst that we will eventually see.  I think that someone has released these photos because the total release has been tied up and the American public has almost forgotten about Abu Ghraib.  Someone isn't going to let the American public forget about Abu Ghraib no matter how long the present administration ties up releasing the photos.  Somebody other than those in charge has all the goods too!

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by Militarytracy on Wed Feb 15th, 2006 at 08:46:49 PM EST
Right on, Tracy.  And you just reminded me that I meant to say in my story that the expected photos of boys being raped/sodomized were NOT in the Aussie stories.

Hickok: "You know the sound of thunder. Can you imagine that sound if I ask you to? Ma'am, listen to the thunder."
by susanhu (susanhuatearthlinkdotnet) on Wed Feb 15th, 2006 at 08:53:35 PM EST
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I think it's safe to deduce that Rousset received the photos and videos from a source linked close to the ground, ie Abu Ghraib guards/maybe red cross. I think it's a fair guess that whoever the source was didn't have all the photos/videos, probably only some.

"this just can't get more disturbing!" - Willow
by myriad (imogenk at wildmail dot com) on Wed Feb 15th, 2006 at 09:52:57 PM EST
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Copies of all of it, anyway. I would like for him to drop it all. I even wrote him an open letter on my blog when the first ones came out.

There are probably several people who have copies, and I would also invite them to pack them up and give them to Socialist Workers or Teheran Times or Muslim Uzbekistan or Telesur, anybody who will just let them out.

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by DuctapeFatwa (DuctapeFatwa@yahoo.com) on Wed Feb 15th, 2006 at 08:54:00 PM EST
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Most especially:  We need the photos/videos of the boys being sodomized.

I'm still very sore with Sy Hersh and The New Yorker for thinking that the rest of the photos were too sensitive for their readers to handle.  

(I've heard him say that a couple times in speeches -- although I've also wondered if he really wanted them all published, but David ___, editor of the New Yorker, refused to do so.)

Hickok: "You know the sound of thunder. Can you imagine that sound if I ask you to? Ma'am, listen to the thunder."

by susanhu (susanhuatearthlinkdotnet) on Wed Feb 15th, 2006 at 08:59:34 PM EST
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I agree with Militarytract that these are far from the worse photos. I hope we will get to see the rest. I support the ACLU case to have them released, but we could be kept waiting until hell freezes over. Besides this does not make the ACLU case moot. It can go forward. We should have seen these photos 2 years ago - these and all these rest. So, I am very thankful these few additional photos and videos were released. It is amazing that government officials have to comment anonymously because they fear prosecution. Also the government is complaining about another "leak". I think the Bush administration is coming unraveled. I would not be surprised if Cheney resign in weeks - certainly before the fall elections. That resignation sets the stage for impeachment of the President. Except for the ongoing human tragedies we witness with every additonal day of war (4 children killed today) this was a great day! Let justice roll down like the mighty waters!
by Synergy on Wed Feb 15th, 2006 at 09:00:25 PM EST
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in what way am I not getting real?  How do you know that this isn't the first phase of an operation to leak these slowly but surely?

Hickok: "You know the sound of thunder. Can you imagine that sound if I ask you to? Ma'am, listen to the thunder."
by susanhu (susanhuatearthlinkdotnet) on Wed Feb 15th, 2006 at 09:02:45 PM EST
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I understand your logic, Susan, but in this case your logic is wrong.

The steady drip drip of a story is infinitely more significant than any big, one-off story. Political candidates delay their entry in order to keep the story in play. The worst scandals are the ones that last the longest, even when there is relatively little new information coming out.

Leaking the photos bit by bit is the best way to keep it in the public mind.

by inkadu on Wed Feb 15th, 2006 at 09:09:12 PM EST
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Because you said you were angry these photos were leaked instead of the government being forced to release them. Tell me this. If you had the photos would you publish them on the Booman Tribune? I know the answer. The answer is "Hell, yes!" The Aussies did everyone a favor IMO. I do understand why it is important to hold our government accountable. I would prefer our government to have voluntarily released these photos. That wasn't going to happen. Stalling isn't helping anything. The ACLU case can and should continue, and I, along with you, support it. Keep the Bush administrations feet to the fire! Peace out.
by Synergy on Wed Feb 15th, 2006 at 09:10:02 PM EST
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I am NOT ANGRY with the Aussie media.

I'm upset with the leaker because they weaken the ACLU's case.

Hickok: "You know the sound of thunder. Can you imagine that sound if I ask you to? Ma'am, listen to the thunder."

by susanhu (susanhuatearthlinkdotnet) on Wed Feb 15th, 2006 at 09:18:55 PM EST
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Got a phone call and didn't finish.

I want the U.S. government HUMILIATED by being forced by a judge to release those photos and videos.

That's what I'm really after.... having them be forced to do what they have stalled and stonewalled for two-plus years now.

Hickok: "You know the sound of thunder. Can you imagine that sound if I ask you to? Ma'am, listen to the thunder."

by susanhu (susanhuatearthlinkdotnet) on Wed Feb 15th, 2006 at 09:22:53 PM EST
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My guess is that humiliation must be imposed on the White House from outside. Thankfully, there are war crimes tribunals that are typically set up precisely for those purposes. It may take a few years, and that may be frustrating, but I suspect that our nation's victims are a patient lot. The Abu Ghraib photos and videos, as horrifying as they may be, are but a small piece of a larger picture - that larger picture being a pervasive pattern of human rights abuses that have occurred.

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by James Benjamin (durito_don at yahoo dot com) on Thu Feb 16th, 2006 at 12:48:25 PM EST
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Again, substantiation for your thoughts on this point, from Salon.com's justification for publishing the images:

The horrors carried out during the last three months of 2003 by U.S. soldiers at Abu Ghraib prison are shockingly familiar and, at the same time, oddly remote. The torture photographs that were published when the prisoner-abuse scandal first exploded have lost their power to shock. We have all seen the pictures repeatedly: a pyramid of unclothed prisoners; a naked detainee cowering in front of snarling dogs; captives wearing punitive hoods that seem borrowed from a medieval inquisition; American soldiers grinning over Iraqi dead bodies and, always, that chillingly ironic thumbs-up sign.

Eventually this visual repetition numbs the senses. All these ghastly images have been viewed so often that they seem to belong to a different war conducted by a different superpower in a different century. Yet the photographs that news organizations have so far published represent only a partial sample of the government's chilling documentary record from Abu Ghraib.

When Salon's national correspondent Mark Benjamin obtained the never-before-released photographs that accompany this essay, we had to both establish their authenticity and to answer the basic question of our justification for publishing. The images themselves partly answered the why-publish question for us. Speaking for myself, I remain haunted by one of the more seemingly banal pictures in this new collection from the dark side. Taken on Dec. 6, 2003, the photograph shows a uniformed and seemingly untroubled Army sergeant leaning against a corridor wall completing his paperwork. All routine, except standing next to the sergeant is a hooded and naked Iraqi prisoner. Just another day of methodical record-keeping at Abu Ghraib.



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by starkravinglunaticradical (non) on Thu Feb 16th, 2006 at 11:50:42 AM EST
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Although the inhumanity depicted in this batch of photos is absolutely
horrific, I insist that the administration hand over all video & photos, at the very least, before their trials. These items are proof of crimes against humanity & hiding them will forever stain this land. The fact that they were released by another nation does not absolve this one from accountability & responsibility.

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by KNUCKLEHEAD on Wed Feb 15th, 2006 at 08:47:58 PM EST
earlier today on CNN (she's one of those pentagon reporters who laugh at Rummy's little jokes while people die. Here's a little portion of the transcript:

But the Pentagon certainly is not happy that these pictures, these additional pictures, which had not been distributed publicly in the past, Pentagon not happy that they are out. And the reason is, the Pentagon had filed a lawsuit trying to prevent their publication in the United States out of concern, they say, that it would spark violence in the Arab world to see these photographs and it would put U.S. military forces at risk.

What puzzled me was how preventing their "publication in the United States" would prevent any violence in the Arab world if they were published everywhere else.

by Ed J on Wed Feb 15th, 2006 at 08:57:56 PM EST
Oh, Ed. It's clear you don't have the logical mind for working in the Pentagon.

Hickok: "You know the sound of thunder. Can you imagine that sound if I ask you to? Ma'am, listen to the thunder."
by susanhu (susanhuatearthlinkdotnet) on Wed Feb 15th, 2006 at 09:03:43 PM EST
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Eyes Wide Open

Salon.com has obtained a cache of torture photos and videos from Abu Ghraib, along with previously unreleased investigation reports which detail "a total of 1,325 images of suspected detainee abuse, 93 video files of suspected detainee abuse, 660 images of adult pornography, 546 images of suspected dead Iraqi detainees, 29 images of soldiers in simulated sexual acts, 20 images of a soldier with a Swastika drawn between his eyes, 37 images of Military Working dogs being used in abuse of detainees and 125 images of questionable acts."

We have put together a special page containing the photos released by Salon.com (which, as the website notes, represent only a small fraction of the total), along with other materials, including video of the recent Australian TV broadcast that first brought this new belching of Bush-filth to light. You can find it here: Abu Ghraib Part II. *WARNING FOR UNPLEASANT PHOTOS AND FOOTAGE*

Yes, we said Bush-filth. Let's lay the blame for these tortures squarely where it belongs: on the shoulders of the "Commander-in-Chief." It's only fair; if this gibbering goon is going to lay claim to unrestricted powers, then by God he will have to bear unrestricted, unmitigated responsibility as well. And in truth, it has been well-documented by now that the widespread, systematic -- and on-going -- use of torture throughout America's new worldwide gulag was instigated at Bush's order, "justified" by the pretzel logic of his legal bagmen -- Alberto Gonzales and John Yoo, among many others -- and promulgated through presidential "executive orders" and directions laid down by Donald Rumsfeld.

Of course, these Abu Ghraib photos themselves represent only a small fraction of the atrocities carried out -- in our name -- in secret hell-holes around the globe. The photos depict the raw and brutal dawn of a system that has become progressively more refined, more "professional," now largely removed from the hands of untrained grunts with digital cameras, and instead carried out in secret by CIA agents and other operatives of the America's mammoth "security organs" -- again, acting under presidential orders, and presidential protection.

What shall we say when history asks how such crimes came to be committed in the name of America? Will we say that we stood silently by, shrugging our shoulders, filling our bellies, closing our eyes? Or will we be able to say: We saw. We dissented. We resisted. We condemned.

For all those who want to open their eyes to the horrors of the illegal war in Iraq, and to the brutality and moral corruption of the "War on Terror" click here... Go, see, open your eyes, and let them know -- these torturers, these bloodstained betrayers of our common humanity -- let them know that you know what they are, what they have done.

by ghandi (admin@chris-floyd.com) on Thu Feb 16th, 2006 at 09:50:56 AM EST
We have the Australian Video Documentary online for those that are interested in viewing it. It's not very pleasant to watch.

http://www.chris-floyd.com/abu/

by ghandi (admin@chris-floyd.com) on Thu Feb 16th, 2006 at 09:52:52 AM EST
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Alibris - Books You Thought You'd Never Find
Banned Books * Are you a fan of Film Noir, Art House, Documentaries or Hong Kong Action? * Searching for a long-lost children's book or a first printing of Miles Davis' Kind of Blue on vinyl? Find it at Alibris!

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