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300,000 Marched in Chicago Yesterday. Anybody Know?

by Stu Piddy
Sat Mar 11th, 2006 at 02:10:29 PM EST

300,000 to 500,000 people marched in Chicago to protest The Border Protection, Antiterrorism, and Illegal Immigration Control Act of 2005.
The Police estimated 300,000 according to Channel 2 News Chicago. Which means there were at least 400,000 to 500,000 people.

http://cbs2chicago.com/topstories/local_story_069125525.html

I live in Chicago. I didn't know anything about it until I heard about the march on the news. It was a march apparently organized by word of mouth and internally in various communities. Yet I live in Uptown which claims to be the most diverse community in Chicago. Maybe I'm out of it. I didn't see anything in the papers about an upcoming march. It got a few minutes of coverage on TV. 300,000 to 500,000 people gets a few minutes of coverage in Chicago, I can't imagine what the coverage was in the rest of the country.

Here's the on line link to the Chicago Tribune. If you look very carefully you will find a single link called "immigrant march"

http://www.chicagotribune.com/

The Saturday Chicago Tribune did show a front page picture of the crowd with a headline and then a not very detailed article. Seems like they don't really know much about it either. Their estimate was 100.000 people. Amazing how they low-balled the police estimate which low balls the organizers estimates as a rule. If the police say there were 300.000 people then that is AT LEAST how many people were there. Minor on line Coverage from the Chicago Suntimes

http://www.suntimes.com/index/

But it doesn't matter because all the awful politicians in Chicago were there to support the crowd. They had to. That's 300,000 to 1/2 million votes ( if everybody there were all to be registered) they could lose. Even Mayor Daley who has installed TV cameras on many city corners and hopes to have the entire city monitored electronically ala Big Brother and who did not endorse John Kerry for president was there.

There is nothing that scares a government more than to see 300 to 500 thousand people in the street...protesting.

And they were protesting against Bush too. They were protesting about a bill sponsored by Jim Sensenbrenner that seeks mass deportations of Illegal immigrants, sending illegal workers to jail and making it a crime to have aided an illegal immigrant.

300,000 Marched in Chicago Yesterday. Anybody Know? | 38 comments (38 topical, 0 editorial, 0 hidden)

I knew. (4.00 / 5)

I also live in the Chicago area. The word I heard about this demonstration was passed around in the university communities (I'm near Northwestern and Loyola), the coffeehouses, and, above all, the churches: very grass-roots. The politicos didn't start it, and so their PR offices didn't flog it with the media. I would guess that Richie (Daley) and Co. hopped aboard when they saw estimates of the turnout numbers, figuring they needed not to be among the silent or the missing.

No guesses yet, though, as to whether they intend to be among the useful or the effective.

by Lady T on Sat Mar 11th, 2006 at 02:19:58 PM EST

Re: 300,000 Marched in Chicago Today (4.00 / 3)

Holy Moley Batman.

I am also in Chicago--have not been out of my hobbit hole much lately, but heard nothing about this--unless I missed a World Cant Wait email.

Fuck. I'd a been there. Looks like it was one helluva party.

(What'd I say the other day, Maryb? moccasin telegraph).

Geez, maybe it is safe to go back in the water after all--I should get out more.

Pls people, rec this diary--word on this should spread. This was a big f-in protest.

BRING. IT. ON.

juslilolme at Historical Footnotes

by starkravinglunaticradical (non) on Sat Mar 11th, 2006 at 02:34:58 PM EST

Re: 300,000 Marched in Chicago Today (4.00 / 3)

Holy shit did you see those pictures? Who is the Illinois Coalition for Immigrant and Refugee Rights? They did a great job.

Organizers say they hired as many as 200 buses to bring immigrants in from the suburbs, other parts of the state and even bordering states. Those included 40 buses from Aurora, 33 from Melrose Park and two each from DeKalb and Rock Falls.
Many marchers said they had taken the day off work to come, while others were given the day off by sympathetic employers.
*
Some employers even shut down for the day to send workers. Jalapeno Produce in Round Lake closed and sent 100 workers to march, said employee Irma Perez. Workers from Passaglia's West Loop Auto Body -- on Morgan near Jackson -- climbed to a rooftop and hoisted a large sign expressing unity with marchers.

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by maryb2004 on Sat Mar 11th, 2006 at 02:59:42 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: 300,000 Marched in Chicago Today (4.00 / 3)

well, and in terms of our conversations the other day about creative ways to stage BIG protests: two things stand out to me here

1. the 'theme' was a significant, absolutely essential domestic issue
(and an immigration march is the perfect theme for this issue in chicago, I believe we have since surpassed LA in terms of Mexican immigrant population; wonder how a march organized around labor/auto industry issues would fare in Detroit; GLBT issues in San Francisco, etc.)

2. (sorry folks, but it's conspicuous): most of the protesters were not 'native born' Americans: Well, so be it, if our fellow americans who happen to come from places where people are more inclined to protest, let them take the lead--and let's get on board next time.

I went back through my emails and found no announcement from any org (and I'm on quite a number of lists).

juslilolme at Historical Footnotes

by starkravinglunaticradical (non) on Sat Mar 11th, 2006 at 03:07:15 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: 300,000 Marched in Chicago Today (4.00 / 3)

#2 is not only conspicuous, it is logical in this instance.

People are more apt to come out for something that DIRECTLY affects them or their family in an immediate way. If there was a law in the works that was going to directly discriminate against red headed people -- you'd see a lot of red headed people and their families and friends protesting.

Help me raise money for Jay Nixon, the next Democratic governor of Missouri

by maryb2004 on Sat Mar 11th, 2006 at 03:12:33 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: 300,000 Marched in Chicago Today (4.00 / 2)

what I'm saying is that maybe this is a better way to attract large crowds than the big answer, moveon, ufpj, etc. marches: nothing to say that other 'interest' groups can't 'latch on' to a single-issue march that effects huge numbers of people--obviously, that happened here--but if the march is organized around ONE issue pertinent to a huge demographic....

you know, sometimes I feel like the whole 'hodge-podge' marches are a 'turn-off' for some people (kinda like: if I'm going to march against everything, I may as well not march at all); but specific DOMESTIC issues affecting large demographics might be the ticket.

juslilolme at Historical Footnotes

by starkravinglunaticradical (non) on Sat Mar 11th, 2006 at 03:33:49 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: 300,000 Marched in Chicago Today (4.00 / 2)

I agree.

IMO single tangible issues are preferable to multiple amorphous issues in every case -- from demonstrations to voter turnout. People can understand a single tangible issue. They can explain to their friends why they are going to protest it or vote against it (or for it) and they can convince their family and friends to join them.

Help me raise money for Jay Nixon, the next Democratic governor of Missouri

by maryb2004 on Sat Mar 11th, 2006 at 03:36:30 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: 300,000 Marched in Chicago Today (4.00 / 4)

this march worked because it was planned by the grass roots, the people actually involved in the issue. Unless you are involved in an issue, it will be difficult to plan a march.

by duranta (yocandra42@hotmail.com) on Sat Mar 11th, 2006 at 07:47:39 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: 300,000 Marched in Chicago Today (4.00 / 7)

Would someone tell me what good Move On is?

These people put together a real grass roots movement. That's a lot of power that could be channneled for real political change.

by Stu Piddy on Sat Mar 11th, 2006 at 03:51:48 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: 300,000 Marched in Chicago Today (4.00 / 5)

Fuck MoveOn.

MoveOver. ;-)

David Swanson has posted a whole list of Marches happening in the month of March here at TruthOut

We should maybe try to spread the word on each of these individual marches a day or two before they happen, no?

(some of them require longer planning. But, harking back to the "single-issue" thing, maybe it is a good idea to diary each one separately--sorry, I'm bogged down with work right now, and just keep popping over between paragraphs).

Anyway-- a good long list is in the TruthOut link, with links to individual marches.

Maybe Booman would agree to do a frontpage series on March Madness (as in pissed as hell ness!) and keep announcements for these marches frontpaged .... in a "calendar of events" type fashion?

juslilolme at Historical Footnotes

by starkravinglunaticradical (non) on Sat Mar 11th, 2006 at 04:08:42 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: 300,000 Marched in Chicago Today (none / 0)

that kind of power IS political change.

by brokenkeyboard on Sun Mar 12th, 2006 at 06:52:19 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: 300,000 Marched in Chicago Today (4.00 / 3)

Now I am wondering if something went down in Mexicantown that was not reported...wouldn't suprise me in the least.

(SW Detroit w/a large Hispanic population.)

"First, they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win." Mahatma Gandhi

by Street Kid on Sat Mar 11th, 2006 at 05:53:12 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: 300,000 Marched in Chicago Today (none / 0)

I would think that we'll have to wait for the Metro Times to come out on Wednesday.

Is it 2009 yet?

by Teacher Toni (tacoralatyahoodotcom) on Sun Mar 12th, 2006 at 09:00:28 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: 300,000 Marched in Chicago Today (4.00 / 5)

And ... anyone who lives in or around Round Lake Beach needs to start buying from Jalapeno Produce. They CLOSED for this and sent 100 people.

Jalapeno Produce joined the Round Lake Beach business family recently. Located in the same mall as Big Lots, Jalapeno Produce carries fresh vegetables and fruit, canned foods and a great butcher counter.

Help me raise money for Jay Nixon, the next Democratic governor of Missouri

by maryb2004 on Sat Mar 11th, 2006 at 03:28:38 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: 300,000 Marched in Chicago Today. (4.00 / 6)

The protest was covered in the Santa Fe newspaper today. I was mightily heartened by the turnout. Before I moved last fall, it seemed that a crowd of 50 was good for the protest about the Supreme Court nominees.

If you want things to get better, be prepared to deal with change.

by Kahli on Sat Mar 11th, 2006 at 02:40:36 PM EST

Re: 300,000 Marched in Chicago Today. (4.00 / 5)

I am sitting here looking at these images, just awestruck.

And to think I MISSED it.

But: this could be the start of something big.

So call me a dumb American with a 'big-ness' fetish (I freely fess up). I can no longer 'get my groove' on for teeny, tiny little symbolic marches: had I known this was going on, and if it were going on EVERY weekend, I'd be there. And I bet if this were happening in every major city, everyone would be there (minus the faithful remaining few [currently 37%]).

Look at the pictures, folks, that was one helluva party.

Damn. Missed it. Grrrr.

juslilolme at Historical Footnotes

by starkravinglunaticradical (non) on Sat Mar 11th, 2006 at 02:47:44 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Most encouraging and hopeful story I've seen in (4.00 / 6)

quite a while. I hope that the numbers will grow, and that larger demonstrations will be seen in many cities.

Not all those marching are voters, they are just taxed without representation, however they are more important than voters in many ways. If everyone working in the US without papers purchased from Washington stayed home from work just one day....

one man's conspiracy is another man's business plan
Blog updated as needed

by DuctapeFatwa (DuctapeFatwa@yahoo.com) on Sat Mar 11th, 2006 at 02:44:59 PM EST

Re: asdf (4.00 / 4)

as I keep saying, it's not about VOTES (or voters).

My suggestion immediately after the election in fact was:

OK. Everybody out on the street.

Red to the Right.
Blue to the left.

Let's see which line is longer.

As long as the vote is rigged, it is the only way to determine what we the people in the US of A really want.

Out. On. The. Street.

<pls step away from that blog! ;^)<p> We need big demos like this in every city every weekend.

Enough is enough.

juslilolme at Historical Footnotes

by starkravinglunaticradical (non) on Sat Mar 11th, 2006 at 02:51:10 PM EST
[ Parent ]

This picture says it all (4.00 / 7)

Thanks for the diary, Stu. I'm gonna be offline for the next couple of days but will see what I can dig up from the organizers, perhaps they are organizing something on a national level. Paz

Latino Político | "We are condemned to kill time, thus we die bit by bit." - Octavio Paz

by Man Eegee (man.eegee at gmail.com) on Sat Mar 11th, 2006 at 03:06:00 PM EST

the wierd part is (4.00 / 4)

Like others here, I'm on a ton of immigration related lists and heard nothing about this until the night before... but that's not the weird part...

I knew something was up in Chicago because for the past week the traffic at my site quadrupled... all from Chicago, all looking for info on 4437, and I said to my wife a few days ago that something was going on but I didn't know what.

What a pleasant surprise to see a half a million people in the streets protesting this bill... now if that doesn't give you some hope.. hooray for Chicago , well done!!!

Migra Matters: progressive immigration reform

by Duke1676 (Duke1676@Yahoo.com) on Sat Mar 11th, 2006 at 03:22:42 PM EST
[ Parent ]

300,000 Marched in Chicago !!! (4.00 / 4)

Lovely demonstration of People Power & grassroots organing!

I'd heard about it in CA; FlashpointsRadio did a story on it last night

it's a great program to try to catch on a regular basis . . .

". . . the more educated you are, the more indoctrinated you are. After all, propaganda is largely directed towards the privileged." -Noam Chomsky

by Arcturus on Sat Mar 11th, 2006 at 05:02:11 PM EST

Re: 300,000 Marched in Chicago Yesterday. Anybody (4.00 / 3)

lower numbers were reported.

Many took up enthusiastic chants like "Si, se puede (Yes, it can be done)" and "La raza unida nunca sera vencida (A people united will never be defeated)."

"First, they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win." Mahatma Gandhi

by Street Kid on Sat Mar 11th, 2006 at 05:49:22 PM EST

Re: 300,000 Marched in Chicago Yesterday. Anybody (4.00 / 6)

At the end of the day, organizers say it was more than half a million protesters. Police estimated the crowd at 300,000.

This is from Channel 2 local News. It is their report that the police estimated 300,000. Both the Sun times and Tribune said over 100,000. Why? The Police are always the source of estimates that are always below the organizers no matter what march or protest.

by Stu Piddy on Sat Mar 11th, 2006 at 06:52:24 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: 300,000 Marched in Chicago Yesterday. Anybody (4.00 / 2)

Oh, ok...

"First, they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win." Mahatma Gandhi

by Street Kid on Sat Mar 11th, 2006 at 06:54:10 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: 300,000 Marched (4.00 / 4)

Lou Dobbs reported the number of people at 75,000. He wondered aloud as to why there were so many American flags in the march.

A one year federal offense is inhuman and draconian.

Remember, Halliburton is building the concentration camps in which these people will be housed, a step away from imprisoning American citizens there.

by duranta (yocandra42@hotmail.com) on Sat Mar 11th, 2006 at 07:44:49 PM EST

I think Lou is just looking out for his fans (4.00 / 3)

Half a million might alarm them, and surprisingly, I agree with Lou on this one. I wouldn't want them to get alarmed either. This was one march. Hopefully, as I said in the previous comment, there will be more marches, and larger ones. No need for trumpets in these situations, if it is a promise of spring, we will know by the sea of daffodils, and Lou can keep on showing consideration for his audience, and no one will need to alarm him by pointing out the exact moment that it begins to be dubbed in Spanish. ;)

one man's conspiracy is another man's business plan
Blog updated as needed

by DuctapeFatwa (DuctapeFatwa@yahoo.com) on Sat Mar 11th, 2006 at 07:58:17 PM EST
[ Parent ]

The Security State is Coming (4.00 / 5)

The Chicago Police do not overestimate. But the Chicago Tribune, Suntimes and Lou Dobbs do. I guess this march was supposed to be a secret, it's being buried by the lack of interest and comment.

Duranta mentioned Detention centers:

By Business Editors
(c) 2006 Business Wire
ARLINGTON, Va.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Jan. 24, 2006--KBR announced today that the Department of Homeland Security's (DHS) U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) component has awarded KBR an Indefinite Delivery/Indefinite Quantity (IDIQ) contingency contract to support ICE facilities in the event of an emergency. KBR is the engineering and construction subsidiary of Halliburton (NYSE:HAL).
With a maximum total value of $385 million over a five-year term, consisting of a one-year based period and four one-year options, the competitively awarded contract will be executed by the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers, Fort Worth District. KBR held the previous ICE contract from 2000 through 2005.

This is one of the reasons for the March. The people marching know what may be happening to them and or those that they know.

We have a secrutiy state coming upon us, it's sneaking up slowly. I thought they would intern the Katrina people in camps but they just spread them out all over the country so they couldn't revolt.

THese 300,000 people in Chicago....I think the minorities in the North are going to respond much more violently to an imposition of this law or any placement of people they know in camps.

I just saw a madman on TV interviewed by Tim Russert. His name is Gary Bernsten. He of " Bin Laden I almost got em' " fame.

He says this country needs national unity in the war on terror. He wants to run for public office.

Translation: We need to impose national unity on the population through state security enforcement. There can be no dissent in this war.

The people who were protesting know what's coming.

by Stu Piddy on Sat Mar 11th, 2006 at 08:10:16 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: The Security State is Coming (4.00 / 4)

I left out the most salient part from above.....

The contract, which is effective immediately, provides for establishing temporary detention and processing capabilities to augment existing ICE Detention and Removal Operations (DRO) Program facilities in the event of an emergency influx of immigrants into the U.S., or to support the rapid development of new programs. The contingency support contract provides for planning and, if required, initiation of specific engineering, construction and logistics support tasks to establish, operate and maintain one or more expansion facilities.
The contract may also provide migrant detention support to other U.S. Government organizations in the event of an immigration emergency, as well as the development of a plan to react to a national emergency, such as a natural disaster. In the event of a natural disaster, the contractor could be tasked with providing housing for ICE personnel performing law enforcement functions in support of relief efforts.

by Stu Piddy on Sat Mar 11th, 2006 at 08:14:18 PM EST
[ Parent ]

The sleeping giant has awakened! (4.00 / 3)

Here is the write up from Illinois Coalition for Immigrant and Refugee Rights.

Who kicked the sleeping giant?

On Friday, March 10, 2006 Chicago's downtown was paralyzed by an immigrant march estimated at more than 100,000 people. They carried hand-lettered signs saying: "We are America," "My Mexican immigrant son died in Iraq," "I'm a dishwasher--not a criminal," and "Don't deport my parents." The peaceful crowd stretched two and half miles, from Union Park on the West Side to their destination in Federal Plaza. No immigrant justice march like this has happened in Illinois history since some 80,000 immigrants marched down State Street demanding an 8-hour workday in 1886.

But that is not the only place a march has taken place. The article goes one to mention other marches.

Last week 5,000 Mexicans gathered in Oregon;
March 6, some 30,000 Latinos from the Washington, D.C.

Yes, the sleeping giant has awakened.
Hoy Marchamos! Manana Votamos! ("We March Today. Tomorrow we Vote!")

by XicanoPwr (chicanopwr at gmail.com) on Sat Mar 11th, 2006 at 10:46:08 PM EST

Didn't know. Thnx. What blogs are for! n/t (4.00 / 2)

by Gaianne on Sun Mar 12th, 2006 at 01:21:38 AM EST

Re: 300,000 Marched in Chicago Yesterday. Anybody (4.00 / 2)

Yes, weird, indeed. I heard about this from my sister last night (Friday). She said she was listening to WGN radio on the way home from work. For the first, she noted, WGN, reported something about the political environment by way of a traffic report. She heard WGN say that traffic out of the city on the way home would be delayed by the immigration bill protest.

My question is how the blogs missed that this would happen or was happening?

This, I say, from the district of the district of the despicable Sensenbrenner.

by MilwMom on Sun Mar 12th, 2006 at 01:24:40 AM EST

I don't think most of the participants are (4.00 / 2)

that involved with blogs. ;->

one man's conspiracy is another man's business plan
Blog updated as needed

by DuctapeFatwa (DuctapeFatwa@yahoo.com) on Sun Mar 12th, 2006 at 02:49:02 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Blogs don't know about this in advance? (none / 0)

WTF? There's no excuse for this people. The "blogs" need to send some "ambassadors" into these communities, like NOW!

This is the very first I've heard a word about it.

Thanks for the this headsup diary Stu Piddy.

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by NorthDakotaDemocrat (NorthDakotaDemocrat at yahoo dot com) on Sun Mar 12th, 2006 at 04:09:20 AM EST

Saw a brief bit on FOX (none / 1)

Heh, "they do the jobs Americans don't want to do"

like march in the streets..

Shame on the media
and Shame on us for sitting on our asses.

"Time is for careful people, not passionate ones."

by roseeriter (roseeriter@yahoo.com) on Sun Mar 12th, 2006 at 04:38:39 AM EST

Turn the country over to immigrants. (4.00 / 2)

You said it all

They do the jobs that Americans don't want to do like March in the Streets.

I say turn the country over to the immigrants...Let them run it. We will all be better off.

by Stu Piddy on Sun Mar 12th, 2006 at 12:52:56 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Turn the country over to immigrants. (none / 0)

actually "turning this country over to the immigrants" is what got us into this mess to begin with (AIM: Fighting Domestic Terrorism since 1492).

Could be that we just turned it over to the WRONG immigrants.

So, the second time around, turning it over to these immigrants from the South--may be the ticket!

juslilolme at Historical Footnotes

by starkravinglunaticradical (non) on Mon Mar 13th, 2006 at 12:04:39 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Turn the country over to immigrants. (none / 0)

It certainly would be a more liberal country to begin with.

by Stu Piddy on Mon Mar 13th, 2006 at 12:45:25 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: 300,000 Marched in Chicago Yesterday. (none / 0)

I'll be damned. I honestly thought everybody around town knew this was happening (perhaps I was suckered by the folks with whom I spoke, who thought of it simply and wholly as an obstacle to getting home!), and never imagined that I should have spoken up. Apologies, gang. I had no idea that I had something under my hat that y'all needed to know.

I will surely remedy that in future, and post dates/times of other demonstrations as I find news of them, on this topic and others.

by Lady T on Sun Mar 12th, 2006 at 05:18:08 AM EST

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