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Bill Kristol is Starting to Lose It

by BooMan
Mon May 1st, 2006 at 01:19:42 PM EST

I think Bill Kristol is starting to become a little bit unglued. His latest missive is so poorly written and confusing, I feel like taking out my red pen and marking it up for bad construction and lack of clarity. When an accomplished wordsmith like Kristol loses the ability to communicate effectively, you suspect something has gone sour in the noggin. He spends most of the column making an argument he vehemently disagrees with, only to divulge at the end that the argument is not his, but the State Department's, except not really. Or is it?

At bottom, there is something that is worrying Kristol, and he finally gets around to stating it in the last lines.

Much of the U.S. government no longer believes in, and is no longer acting to enforce, the Bush Doctrine. "The United States of America understands and believes that Iran is not Iraq." That's a diplomatic way of saying that the United States of America is in retreat.

What's the Bush Doctrine, you ask? Well, it started out with that statement about the United States not making any distinction between the terrorists that carried out 9/11 and the host countries that harbor such terrorists. That was the rationale for invading Afghanistan after they refused to turn over Usama bin-Laden. But, then it kind of morphed into a doctrine that made no distinction between the terrorists that carried out 9/11 and nations that don't harbor such terrorists.

"the Bush Doctrine has come to be identified with a policy that permits preventive war against potential aggressors before they are capable of mounting attacks against the United States"

Now, to be fair, Iran did a lot more harboring of the 9/11 terrorists and their handlers than is generally acknowledged. So did Pakistan and Saudi Arabia, for that matter. Germany wasn't exactly stellar in that department, either. But, we aren't making a case for tough action against Iran (or any of these other countries) based on the old harboring terrorists criteria. We are basing it Iran's intention to enrich their own uranium. The theory is that Iran cannot be trusted to use the uranium for non-military purposes, nor can they be trusted to refrain from using it for offensive and pre-emptive purposes, nor can they be trusted not to use it in terrorist attacks (either directly or through proxies). Each of these assertions should be taken separately.

Kristol wants the U.S. to attack Iran (oh, and Sudan).

COLBERT: Who do we go after next? Iran? Come on!
KRISTOL: I think we may have to take military action against…
COLBERT: Let’s get some boots on the ground, sir!
KRISTOL: I wish…we may have to do that. We have to do that in the Sudan.
COLBERT: Is the military option on the table in Iran?
KRISTOL: Absolutely, absolutely. And in Sudan.

But Kristol now sees the United States as unwilling to take military action against Iran. Strangely, he doesn't argue for impeaching Bush and Cheney for a failure of leadership that led to a loss of national will. He blames the State Department. He mocks Condi Rice by putting the following in her mouth...

Sure, hawks will worry that proclaiming "Iran is not Iraq" signals that the Bush administration is now terrified even to threaten the use of force against terror-sponsoring dictatorships seeking weapons of mass destruction. But all options, at least theoretically, are still on the table.

I have been saying for months that the defeat in Iraq signals the end of the rationale for the U.S. Empire. Kristol seems to sense this and to fear it. He looks around and cannot find a safe harbor for himself. He says Rumsfeld should have been fired a year or two ago. Rice is weak-kneed. Cheney, utterly discredited, should consider resignation. Bush, a puppet and an incompetent, can't set things right. Kristol plays around with blaming the implementation of the Iraq plan, rather than the decision to invade itself. But, he knows that the tide of the argument is running against him. He knows that that argument has less shelf life than the one that held that Vietnam wasn't a mistake of strategy, but of tactics.

Where does that put neo-conservatism? Where does it put unilateralism? What does the post-Iraq environment and national mood do for PNAC's statement of principles?

...the United States must be prudent in how it exercises its power. But we cannot safely avoid the responsibilities of global leadership or the costs that are associated with its exercise. America has a vital role in maintaining peace and security in Europe, Asia, and the Middle East. If we shirk our responsibilities, we invite challenges to our fundamental interests. The history of the 20th century should have taught us that it is important to shape circumstances before crises emerge, and to meet threats before they become dire. The history of this century should have taught us to embrace the cause of American leadership

Once this country finally rids itself of this odious administration and extracts itself from Iraq, we are going to have a national debate about what America's 'vital role' should be in promoting peace and security, and how best to do that going forward. Kristol's model is dead, it's implementers discredited. I think the whole spectacle is starting to rattle him.



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starting to lose it?

Why his head hasn't yet imploded from the cognitive
dissonance is only a testament to his powers of denial.

That boy is crraaazzy!

by Ozzie on Mon May 1st, 2006 at 01:34:34 PM EST
Great diary! I saw the Kristol/Colbert interview...and could not believe what came out of his mouth. And I don't think Kristol himself was too happy about what he finally admitted outloud. He knew how stupid he sounded.
Go Colbert!!

Colbert is making even Mahr look tame.

Banned but hopefully not forgotten.

by Mattes on Mon May 1st, 2006 at 01:39:12 PM EST
I thought the Bush Doctrine was "9/11 justifies everything".

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by esquimaux (esquimaux1 at gmail dot com) on Mon May 1st, 2006 at 01:42:37 PM EST
Is it just me or is "9/11 justifies everything" starting to remind you of that quote from Vietnam:

We had to destroy that village in order to save it.

Glen

by glenj (glenjo yaya gmail dit com) on Mon May 1st, 2006 at 08:02:04 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Yup. That's why we should call it "the Trade Center attack".

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by technopolitical on Tue May 2nd, 2006 at 12:48:50 AM EST
[ Parent ]
I can't help but be reminded of this old Kinks song:

Catch Me Now I'm Falling

I remember, when you were down
And you needed a helping hand
I came to feed you
But now that I need you
You won't give me a second glance
Now I'm calling all citizens from all over the world
This is captain america calling
I bailed you out when you were down on your knees
So will you catch me now I'm falling

Help me now I'm calling you
Catch me now I'm falling
I'm in your hands, it's up to you
Catch me now I'm falling

I remember when you were down
You would always come running to me
I never denied you and I would guide you
Through all of your difficulties
Now I'm calling all citizens from all over the world
This is captain america calling
I bailed you out when you were down on your knees
So will you catch me now I'm falling

Help me now I'm calling you
Catch me now I'm falling
I'm in your hands, it's up to you
Catch me now I'm falling

When you were broke you would come to me
And I would always pull you round
Now I call your office on the telephone
And your secretary tells me that she's sorry,
But, you've gone out of town.

This is captain america calling
This is captain america calling

Help me now I'm calling you
Catch me now I'm falling
I'm in your hands, it's up to you
Catch me now I'm falling

Catch me now I'm falling
Catch me now I'm falling
Catch me now I'm falling
Catch me now I'm falling

I stood by you through all of your depressions
And I lifted you when you were down
Now it's your chance to do the same for me
I call your office and your secretary tells me
That you've gone out of town

This is captain america calling
This is captain america calling

Catch me now I'm falling
Catch me now I'm falling

I was the one who always bailed you out
Of your depressions and your difficulties
I never thought that you would let me down
But the next time you're in trouble
Better not come running to me

Now I'm calling all citizens from all over the world
This is captain america calling
I bailed you out when you were down on your knees
So will you catch me now I'm falling
Catch me now I'm falling

Catch me now I'm falling
Catch me now I'm falling
Catch me now I'm falling
Catch me now I'm falling  


Oh, there you are, Perry. -Phineas -SLB-

by boran2 (blogistan@yahoo.com) on Mon May 1st, 2006 at 01:48:59 PM EST
Millions for defense, not a penny for tribute . . . and not a penny for pre-emptive, offensive, or illegal war.

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by Omir the Storyteller (omir.the.storyteller -CAT- gmail -DOG- com) on Mon May 1st, 2006 at 01:49:04 PM EST
One thing that Mr. Kristol states jumped right out at me.  After disparaging Cheney (by common wisdom GWB "handler"), he goes on to claim that the President is a puppet.

A puppet for whom????

Really, serious question.  Do we have names (and not abstract conspiracy theories, I mean something substantial)?  I don't mean tin hats here, especially when this comes from a PNAC-er.  Is that a slip from what Booman calls a sour noggin?  I personally don't have a clue because I would like something more substantive in evidence or theory that The Da Vinci Code.

Really, Mr. Kristol, who IS pulling our president's, The President of the United States, strings!

There more I think about this PNAC slip-of-the-tongue, the more frightened I become.

"The law was made for one thing alone, for the exploitation of those who don't understand it, or are prevented by naked misery from obeying it."-B. Brecht

by Jeffersonian Democrat (rzg6f@virginia.edu) on Mon May 1st, 2006 at 02:09:44 PM EST
Kristol didn't actually call Bush a puppet.  Sorry if that wasn't clear.  He has been critical of his competence.
by BooMan on Mon May 1st, 2006 at 02:15:09 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Oh, whew, thanks Booman, I almost had a coronary.

"The law was made for one thing alone, for the exploitation of those who don't understand it, or are prevented by naked misery from obeying it."-B. Brecht
by Jeffersonian Democrat (rzg6f@virginia.edu) on Mon May 1st, 2006 at 02:23:24 PM EST
[ Parent ]
That article of his you linked to is the most pathetic thing of his I've ever read.  I think Colbert got in his head, big time.  He is clinically depressed if that is the best he's got right now.  I'm serious about that, and well he should be depressed, considering how badly his PNAC strategery is going... and all the death and destruction and debt creation that has been unleashed for NOTHING.

...at least we don't look like Neanderthals in the drawing rooms of Europe and Georgetown.

That is so pathetic, because the opposite of what he says is true.  He is in total denial if he really believes that.  Condi's got nothing.  The State Department is just as screwed up as the rest of this regime.  I can't believe her positives are so high here at home.

Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has. -Margaret Mead

by blueneck on Mon May 1st, 2006 at 02:10:03 PM EST
point of view.  What positives does Condi have here at home?  How do we not look like Neanderthals in the drawing rooms of Europe and Georgetown now?  Did Condi finally learn how to really speak Russian on her days off while the rest of this administration was busy improving their golf game?

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by Militarytracy on Mon May 1st, 2006 at 02:20:14 PM EST
[ Parent ]
I hear that Condi wears really nice shoes.  Maybe that's it.

Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has. -Margaret Mead
by blueneck on Mon May 1st, 2006 at 02:48:31 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Billy is a 4th rate hack in thrall to a 3rd rate thinker (Strauss.)  

You can't loose what you never had: a grip on Reality.

Och nu den svenska kocken bakar en Alaskan älg jägare. Bork! Bork! Bork!

by ATinNM on Mon May 1st, 2006 at 02:42:26 PM EST
Where you been AT?  That's a funny typo "loose...grip on reality".

I think 'lose' is the most misspelled world in blogtopia.  Why is that?  

by BooMan on Mon May 1st, 2006 at 02:44:49 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Been here 'most every day.  Just don't seem to comment much.

Re:  lose/loose, I was just following Wittgenstein:

Tractatus Muchus Logico-Writus, 2.0122

Things are independent in so far as they can occur [emphasis added] in all possible [original] situations, but this form of independence is a form of connexion with states of affairs, a form of dependence.

So. There.  (nyah)

Och nu den svenska kocken bakar en Alaskan älg jägare. Bork! Bork! Bork!

by ATinNM on Mon May 1st, 2006 at 03:03:54 PM EST
[ Parent ]
How wonderful that we have met with a paradox. Now we have some hope of making progress.- Niels Bohr
by BooMan on Tue May 2nd, 2006 at 06:09:10 AM EST
[ Parent ]
I watched Kristol on the Fox Sunday news panel yesterday and noted how unhappy, even unhealthy, he appeared. His comments meandered and seemed to die from his lack of energy. He looked like he was sitting on the point of a sharp stick.
by donkeytale on Mon May 1st, 2006 at 02:48:48 PM EST
You raise an interesting point at the end of your commentary:

...we are going to have a national debate about what America's 'vital role' should be in promoting peace and security, and how best to do that going forward.

This is the kind of issue we need to be developing a plan for now so that we can hit the ground running when the current regime implodes.

Some thoughts, although it probably is a topic for several diaries:

(1) Terrorists are not the root cause of problems in the world; they're a symptom of the desperation of poor people in countries ruled without freedom, with the support of the West.  Carter had it right (yet again): the foreign policy of the US must be to stand up for the freedom of the people of the world, or our claim to be "a beacon of freedom" is a sham.

(2) Promoting peace and security is best pursued by promoting equitable economic development among the less fortunate around the world.  Not just giving nations power supplies and industrialization, but small-scale, locally-managed power supplies and means of production.  When these are locally managed (in a representative manner, not by a local warlord) and scaled for local use, there will in the great majority of cases be add-on environmental benefits as well, as local people are not often going to be interested in poisoning their own air, wells and rivers.  Another add-on benefit is that the great majority of people would rather stay at home with their families than migrate to the US (legally or illegally) so addressing human needs around the world resolves phony immigration issues as well.

Yeah, I know, the same old hippie ideas from the 1970's, probably still bouncing around "the drawing rooms of Europe" as well.  Show me where they've been tried and proved wrong and I'll go crawl under my rock.

The problem is that there's not nearly as much money to be made from just and equtable development by those who already have power and wealth (so they think).

Ecological collapse is already happening. Your resentment of the word doesn't change the fact that it is occurring.

by Knoxville Progressive (green_planet_2000 (at) yahoo (dot) com) on Mon May 1st, 2006 at 02:57:26 PM EST
Kristol's #1 job now is to preserve and defend the (supposed) validity of the neoconservative dogma, rather than allow that dogma to be seen as the dysfunctional, delusional claptrap that it is; rather than to let that dogma be seen as the primary cause of the disasters propagated by the Bush regime under it's influence.

Fukuyama tried the same thing a while back, seeking to shift blame on to the implementers of neocon doctrine, rather than on the doctrine itself. Even the craven shitbird neocon Eliot Cohen tried a similar approach last December in the WSJ.

But all tyrants and their mouthpieces do this once their insane megalomaniacal actions start to fail to achieve their aims. Pinochet blamed the Chilean people for not supporting him firmly enough; the Argentine generals blamed other countries for sabotaging them; Pol Pot, Shah Pahlavi, Mao, Marcos, Noriega, the various "death squad" dictators in Central and South America; none of these creatures was ever able to acknowledge that their own ideology, their own vision was flawed. And these creatures are the soulmates of the neocons; this is the continuum upon which they operate.

Kristol now is struggling mightily with the cognitive dissonance that is at the core of his delusional state of mind. He hasn't yet been able to accept the simple truth that his grand scheme for hegemony across the planet has failed so utterly and so early in the game. Like a true captive of the Straussian cult, he is still programmed to believe that the doctrine is solid regardless of whether it appears to be delivering the desired results or not, and that any glitches are merely the result of interference by "others", (i.e. non-Straussians), whose intellect and determination are so obviously inferior.

I've known a lot of people over the years who gone into and comeout of cult environments. Kristol is but one, yet he stands out because usually those who propagate whatever idiotic dogma is required to keep cilt followers in thrall do not actually fall for their own delusional ideology. Kristol has, which, in my book, makes him more of a sociopath about to blow than just a disillusioned cult believer. Likely he'll go to his deathbed spouting the nonsense that we in the US need to achieve control of the entire planet.


Denial is our most dangerous adversary.

by sbj on Mon May 1st, 2006 at 05:59:21 PM EST
.
In closing link of PNAC's statement of principles? ...

"But I will not let myself be reduced to silence."

▼ ▼ ▼ MY DIARY

by Oui on Mon May 1st, 2006 at 01:27:28 PM EST
thanks Oui, fixed now, I hope.
by BooMan on Mon May 1st, 2006 at 01:29:14 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Once this country finally rids itself of this odious administration and extracts itself from Iraq, we are going to have a national debate about what America's 'vital role' should be in promoting peace and security I think that the starting point for any such debate should be an expansion of Eisenhower's parting warning about being weary of the Military-Industrial complex. The main two points of expansion I would make are: 1. The political extension to a fascist like system because of the control and benefits to this MI complex, and 2. The need for bogeymen creation to fool the average, conservative leaning American voter and the media control needed to pull this off over time. If the media did its job of determining whether threats like Iraq and the Soviet Union were really threats or just hype, American voters might then be able to see real threats to their security instead of the Repub bogeymen just meant to make blinded, patriotic following the require norm. We have had this fascist Bush administration experience mainly because of the fear factor, but the MI complex has gotton fat and rich as the plan said. Anyway, these are the seeds for future discussions, IMO.
by NG on Mon May 1st, 2006 at 04:03:25 PM EST
The problem with the perfect storm of neo-cons and religious fascists is that both see the world in a Manichean way of Us vs Them, Good vs. Evil and they define those poles not by behavior or action but by the group they happen to be in.  Since they have taken power in the United States they have tried to make reality fit their fantasy and the only thing they have accomplished is the destruction of the reputation of the United States, and of its military.

The clean up for the Bush disaster will make the Katrina clean up look like a picnic.

All Progressives need to become ardent supporters of the Second, as well as the , First Amendment

by phronesis (swwiener@gmail.com) on Mon May 1st, 2006 at 04:15:20 PM EST
I chuckle every time I hear him disavow the White  House.  Bill's perhaps the leading neocon out there saying "It's not my fault."  Bolton said last week that the Iraq fiasco wasn't cooked up at the PNAC.

Later in the week I'll do a piece on the PNAC paper trail.

I agree with you, Booman.  The neoconservative policy was a total bust.

Jeff

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by Jeff Huber on Tue May 2nd, 2006 at 10:18:10 AM EST


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