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My Thin Skin

by Chris
Wed Jun 7th, 2006 at 01:56:52 AM EST

Abraham Lincoln:

The question recurs, what will satisfy them? Simply this: We must not only let them alone, but we must somehow, convince them that we do let them alone. This, we know by experience, is no easy task. We have been so trying to convince them from the very beginning of our organization, but with no success. In all our platforms and speeches we have constantly protested our purpose to let them alone; but this has had no tendency to convince them. Alike unavailing to convince them, is the fact that they have never detected a man of us in any attempt to disturb them.

These natural, and apparently adequate means all failing, what will convince them? This, and this only: cease to call slavery wrong, and join them in calling it right. And this must be done thoroughly - done in acts as well as in words. Silence will not be tolerated - we must place ourselves avowedly with them. Senator Douglas' new sedition law must be enacted and enforced, suppressing all declarations that slavery is wrong, whether made in politics, in presses, in pulpits, or in private. We must arrest and return their fugitive slaves with greedy pleasure. We must pull down our Free State constitutions. The whole atmosphere must be disinfected from all taint of opposition to slavery, before they will cease to believe that all their troubles proceed from us.

The challenge here isn't to find a modern parallel, but to avoid one. This is the bad song that's been stuck in your head for more than just a few years now. Digby quoted this portion of Lincoln's Cooper Union speech the other day in a post that everybody and their monkey should read. Go have a look, even if you have already read it a few times.

[Update] (9:38 am EDT): Since there seems to be a little confusion about this post, I've added some annotations after the jump.

Hi! Thanks for visiting. In order to explain myself, I'm going to break the post into four parts

I. Title
I really hate writing titles. I often find it the hardest part of writing a post. I've often used the title "I Hate Titles" when I just can't think of anything. The title of this post is My Thin Skin. The title has nothing to do with the content of the post itself, which I admit is a silly way to title a post. This particular title is a reference to something I was thinking about when I posted it. I was thinking to myself that I probably wouldn't be posting this were it not for some criticism I received pertaining to my last post. In his criticism of my post (here and here), Arthur Gilroy stated his belief that the Republican base does not change and can't be swayed. His comments reminded me a little of Digby's post and the quoted portion of Lincoln's speech in particular. When I wrote the title I was doing it to mock myself for having such thin skin, but you were never supposed to know about it. So much for that.

II. Speech
I think the quoted portion of the speech is really wonderful and is pertinent to the way I feel about the some of the concessions being made by the Democratic party. I think it's foolish to try to appeal to voters who will never vote for a Democrat, regardless of the candidate or that candidate's positions. I could be way off, but that's how I feel.

III. I write that "The challenge here isn't to find a modern parallel, but to avoid one." What I mean is that there are so many modern parallels that it would be a challenge not to think of one while you are reading the speech

IV. I write that "Digby quoted this portion of Lincoln's Cooper Union speech the other day in a post that everybody and their monkey should read." By this I mean that I think that Digby's post is wonderful and that I think you should read it.

I hope this has been helpful. I'll try to be clearer in the future.



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I'm not sure what you're saying - sounds like you think Lincoln believed this. Clearly, he was being ironic, and a bit sarcastic. He ended the same speech, according to Digby, with these inspiring words:

Neither let us be slandered from our duty by false accusations against us, nor frightened from it by menaces of destruction to the Government nor of dungeons to ourselves. LET US HAVE FAITH THAT RIGHT MAKES MIGHT, AND IN THAT FAITH, LET US, TO THE END, DARE TO DO OUR DUTY AS WE UNDERSTAND IT.

He's saying, if you try to please everyone, the only way is to give up the things that are important to you. And it's far more important to stand up for the things that are important than to win acceptance.

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by Real History Lisa (lpeaseRemoveThis@gte.net) on Wed Jun 7th, 2006 at 03:07:20 AM EST
I understand and that's why I posted it. What did I write that made you think that I didn't understand his words or his irony? I'm being sincere with that question because it seems like everything I post lately doesn't convey what I intended to convey. I thought that by not using too many of my own words that I could avoid that problem here.
by Chris on Wed Jun 7th, 2006 at 07:14:08 AM EST
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what lincoln was saying was this:

When two sides are trying to work things out, compromise is best.

But when the other side takes no prisoners and refuses to accept anything less than your utter annihilation, all that remains is to act as your conscience sees fit, with the confidence that you will prevail in the righteousness of your conscience.

I see nothing particularly ironic about that, nor was he advocating that one should always stand on principle, regardless of the situation.

The biggest problem with American politics today is that it has long since ceased to be about two competing philosophies doing their best to argue what is right for America and craft good policy: it has become outright war--and one side is playing with guns, while the other plays with knives and gentleman's agreements.

That leaves two options: roll over and accept subjugation, or fight in the manner that your conscience dictates.

by thereisnospoon on Wed Jun 7th, 2006 at 05:04:00 AM EST
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It really made me feel good about how hard I have felt it is for me to live in Alabama right now.  God knows he couldn't be more right on....no matter how "centrist" a winning candidate we give them they are consistently the same shade of "victimized" in the solid red states (God do they hate Bill Clinton where I live, his name is like a curse word with the Democrats down here hating the hell out of him because he wasn't a real Democrat and the Republicans hating him because they hate anybody who isn't one of them.)

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by Militarytracy on Wed Jun 7th, 2006 at 08:57:53 AM EST
Poor Chris. Just so you'll know--I got it the first time. And I love your sense of humor. But I am glad to find out what your title meant. :)

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by kansas on Wed Jun 7th, 2006 at 09:45:05 AM EST
I got it the first time too Chris.

I think it's foolish to try to appeal to voters who will never vote for a Democrat, regardless of the candidate or that candidate's positions. I could be way off, but that's how I feel.

If you're way off don't feel bad because I think it's safe to say that most of us, at least here at Bootrib, are way off too. But we aren't :o)

The only other problem is that I couldn't find my monkey ;o)
No comments on that please ;o)  

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by supersoling (colorsplash62@optonline.net) on Wed Jun 7th, 2006 at 09:58:25 AM EST
Your original post was perfectly clear. You know some people are never going to get you. So don't dumb things down too much.
by Elisa on Wed Jun 7th, 2006 at 10:09:49 AM EST
I got it (and the title!) the first time.  Don't worry so much.
by CabinGirl on Wed Jun 7th, 2006 at 10:16:41 AM EST
And the title?! Braggart! I'll bet your monkey told you.

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by kansas on Wed Jun 7th, 2006 at 10:19:45 AM EST
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Um, I was participating in that thread...the monkey never tells me anything.
by CabinGirl on Wed Jun 7th, 2006 at 10:22:09 AM EST
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You must have the Speak No Evil one.  :)

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by kansas on Wed Jun 7th, 2006 at 10:25:57 AM EST
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If I didn't worry, I wouldn't be me now would I?
by Chris on Wed Jun 7th, 2006 at 11:16:12 AM EST
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Excellent.

This has also been Armando's almost singular focus on Kos for a couple of years now.

I know Armando has made himself persona non grata here and even on Kos now, but the blogosphere owns him a debt of gratitude for hammering Lincoln 1860 again and again and again...

by thereisnospoon on Wed Jun 7th, 2006 at 03:45:35 AM EST
Armando has made himself persona non grata here.  He was just being ornery the other day, but that was the other day and nobody bottled it up inside tiny snark.  This too shall pass.

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by Militarytracy on Wed Jun 7th, 2006 at 08:43:17 AM EST
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Armando is persona non grata on Kos? I do not do not do not mean to turn this into one of those threads, I'm just curious about what happened.

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by kansas on Wed Jun 7th, 2006 at 09:03:31 AM EST
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