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Why No to Clinton

by BooMan
Sat Nov 10th, 2007 at 12:17:45 PM EST

Depending on your age, you may know Pat Caddell as George McGovern's wunderkind pollster or you may know him from the 2004 election as a disgruntled and angry political commentator on MSNBC. Caddell basically invented the modern poll tested political campaign. He got his start doing a school project during the 1968 election in Jacksonville, Florida. Jacksonville was George Wallace country. Yet, as Caddell went around asking people about their political preferences he was shocked at how many people expressed support for Robert Kennedy. So, Caddell began drilling down to understand why people supported Wallace, and why they supported Kennedy. After all, Wallace and Kennedy had gone to war over the desegregation of the University of Alabama and they had opposing views on the Vietnam War. Joe Klein explains in his book Politics Lost: How American Democracy Was Trivialized by People Who Think You're Stupid.

The answers came in blunt, simple sentences:
    "They're tough guys."
    "They'll protect the little guy."
    "You can believe them."

Which gets straight to the problem with so many Democratic nominees. Was Michael Dukakis a tough guy? Could you believe Bill Clinton? Which Al Gore was going to show up to which debate? Where did John Kerry stand on the war? As Terence Samuel notes, this is not the kind of image that we need in our next nominee.

Clinton's fumbles in the last Democratic debate -- on immigration and her seeming inability to give a straight answer -- threw into sharp relief the fact that the GOP nominee will have a fair amount of Democratic vulnerability to work with if she is the nominee.

The last debate raised a fair number of uncomfortable questions for Democrats, not all of them about Clinton. It was a nightmarishly familiar scene: the equivocating, tap-dancing candidate unable, at the critical moment, to say exactly what she believed -- think Al Gore on guns or John Kerry on abortion and the $87 million that he voted for before he voted against. It undermined the growing sense that Clinton had been remade into a tougher, more solid candidate, who, whatever her other issues, was going to come ready to beat the Republicans at their own game.

Hillary has worked hard to project an image of toughness, but she hasn't mastered it at all, the art of creating trust. She's polished. She's eloquent. She's sharp on the issues. She's qualified. But she isn't really all that tough and, more importantly, she isn't trustworthy. She doesn't project trustworthiness.

Ironically, (considering prior gaffes) it's Joe Biden that projects toughness and straightforwardness. The rest of the field seems too prone to caution, afraid someone, somewhere, might get offended by something they say. They try to have it both ways on too many issues. None of them are worse than Clinton.

Look at this:

After a tour, the candidate took questions from the crowd.

She called on a young woman. "As a young person," said the well-spoken Muriel Gallo-Chasanoff, "I'm worried about the long-term effects of global warming. How does your plan combat climate change?"

"Well, you should be worried," Clinton replied. "You know, I find as I travel around Iowa that it's usually young people that ask me about global warming."

There's a good reason for that, too. The question was a plant, totally rigged in advance, like a late-night infomercial. Just before the public forum a Clinton staffer had chosen the young woman, a student at Grinnell College, and asked her to ask that specific question.

We accused Clinton of using a plant at Yearly Kos, too, although Peter Daou denied it and I accepted his word. Regardless, we don't need this kind of candidacy. Do we really want more of this?

Do we want the Kathleen Willeys of the world to come crawling out of the woodwork accusing the Clintons of murdering their cats?

Say no to the Clinton campaign. Her nomination will put everything at risk and make us all want to throw up every single day.



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Very well said. This is what I have been trying to articulate for some time. Hillary is the Republicans' dream nominee for the Dem ticket because they can so easily smear her with her own double-speak. And even if she should win, we'll be left with her brand of propaganda. She'll out-do Bush with fake townhall style meetings and public appearances because she is convinced that this is how to govern. I never bought it and I still don't. I'm tired of not being able to believe 50% of what comes from the mouths of our leaders... and I don't think I'm alone. We need a leader who, regardless of what you think of their policies, at least you know where they stand. I think even the dittoheads would agree with that.
by RandyH on Sat Nov 10th, 2007 at 12:44:30 PM EST
planting questions hardly makes for sharp distinctions.
by BooMan on Sat Nov 10th, 2007 at 01:28:24 PM EST
[ Parent ]
This is why Ron Paul is raking in the money -- like him or not, you'll get an ANSWER out of the guy.  Personally, I think he'd dead on regarding pulling US troops back to the states & closing most bases overseas.  

Truths that can't be spoken by democrats:

  1. The military is bleeding the country to the bone, getting us nowhere fast and should be largely dismantled -- right now.
  2. Americans by and large are being led by the nose back to Jim Crow racism and a world of brutality and ignorance.  Lynch mobs come next.
  3. If women don't realize it fast, they'll wind up losing not only the right to choose but the right to vote.  In the kitchen with a broken leg.
  4. We're one country among many and we've been acting like arrogrant assholes for too long to get away with it much longer.  
by John Brown (ruptured_duck@snotmail.com) on Sat Nov 10th, 2007 at 01:56:17 PM EST
I'm not sure where you are getting 2 and 3, but 1 is indeed something that can not be uttered and 4 is obvious to all but the least self-reflective.
by BooMan on Sat Nov 10th, 2007 at 02:05:04 PM EST
[ Parent ]
The "least self-reflective" could probably constitute a ruling majority right about now...

The Underground Railroad
by Oscar In Louisville on Sat Nov 10th, 2007 at 03:38:19 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Where do I get #'s 2 and 3?  

  1. How about dragging a black man behind a truck in Texas until his body falls off the chain?  How about nooses showing up all across the US, aimed directly at scaring the crap out of black people?  How about the destruction of black New Orleans to provide a playground for the rich (whites)?  Remember the Jena kid -- railroaded straight into prison?  Isn't anybody paying attention to where this is headed?

  2. Ann Coulter publicly stating she'd prefer women losing the vote.  All the religious right lacks is a "Prophet" leading the way back to righteousness -- starting with removal of all rights for women (in the works right now) and ending with women back in their place, silent, terrified, abused.  Again, isn't anybody paying attention to what the religious right is saying or does it all just blend into the noise..

When they come for you and yours, lets hope you'll see it then.

Of all the suits on the stage, only Kucinich even begins to tell the truth about America.  

by John Brown (ruptured_duck@snotmail.com) on Sat Nov 10th, 2007 at 05:12:43 PM EST
[ Parent ]
I believe the question was why you believe Democrats couldn't utter #2 & #3.

The Underground Railroad
by Oscar In Louisville on Sat Nov 10th, 2007 at 05:24:44 PM EST
[ Parent ]
by 1watt on Sat Nov 10th, 2007 at 02:29:07 PM EST
My governor just endorsed her. Boo. Hiss.
by Renee in Ohio on Sat Nov 10th, 2007 at 02:45:30 PM EST
This is clear as a bell. We don't need a DLC-AIPAC candidate to continue the Republican Neocon agenda. Will she not attack Iran when prodded? The question itself cautions us to not take a chance with an equivocator.

by shergald on Sat Nov 10th, 2007 at 03:06:41 PM EST
Chris Dodd.
by priscianus jr on Sat Nov 10th, 2007 at 09:11:11 PM EST
Kucinich!

I'd rather a guy who honestly thought he saw a UFO (UNIDENTIFIED flying object)than a bunch of frauds who believe non-existent guardian angels fly with our C-130 "Angels of Death".  This is especially true of those who believe that anything they do, no matter how heinous, can be forgiven with enough money (Papal Indulgence) and a statement of contrition.

How about a leader who is accountable to US?  

Pelosi can pray all she wants to, but she'd damned well better pay attention to the protesters and get us out of the endless wars-for-oil.  Bush thumps the Bible, but shreds the Constitution.  Cheney's advisers push towards a delusional vision of Armageddon, but we in the real world don't want the total destruction of our home planet.

Perhaps it is time for a leader who isn't a media creation.

by hauksdottir on Sun Nov 11th, 2007 at 03:13:08 AM EST


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