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Huckabee/Obama: Who's the Radical?

by BooMan
Tue Dec 11th, 2007 at 12:37:17 PM EST

Mike Allen and Ben Smith team up for the latest in the thou shalt not be a liberal genre of political journalism. In an article headlined Liberal views could haunt Obama, Allen and Smith lay it out.

When Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) was seeking state office a dozen years ago, he took unabashedly liberal positions: flatly opposed to capital punishment, in support of a federal single-payer health plan, against any restrictions on abortion, and in support of state laws to ban the manufacture, sale and even possession of handguns.

No corresponding article notes that Mike Huckabee's conservative views might haunt him, although Allen does note in passing a CNN poll that finds:

In head-to-head matchups -- the first to include Huckabee -- the former Arkansas governor loses to Sen. Hillary Clinton of New York by 10 percentage points (54 percent to 44 percent), to Sen. Barack Obama of Illinois by 15 points (55 percent to 40 percent) and to former Sen. John Edwards of North Carolina by 25 points (60 percent to 35 percent).

Of course, our corporate media explains this not as a result of policy, but of differential name recognition.

But Huckabee's double-digit deficits with the leading Democrats likely suggest that the Arkansas Republican still lacks widespread name recognition nationally, according to Keating Holland, CNN's polling director.

Right. Could be. Or it could be that Huckabee doesn't believe in evolution, thinks people with AIDS should be quarantined, and thinks, as Matt Tiabbi put it, "America wouldn't need so much Mexican labor if we allowed every aborted fetus to grow up and enter the workforce."

Huckabee, unlike Bush, isn't playacting with this religion stuff. He's actually nuts. And, while it's true that his name recognition isn't so great, insanity is generally a problem in a presidential candidate (see Ross Perot). A healthy percentage of the population isn't going to give the nuclear codes to a man that thinks the world is 4004 years old. But, back to Obama...he's liberal...that's bad.

“No candidacy of his avowed liberalism has succeeded in the United States in much more than a generation,” said Republican strategist Kieran Mahoney, a national political adviser to former Sen. Bob Dole’s 1996 presidential campaign.

Mahoney said GOP consultants typically have to game out: “Is this a guy who has the nuance and cleverness to hide the fact that he is an unrepentant liberal?”

“That’s the question you have when you’re trying to beat these guys,” Mahoney said. “He’s not even trying.”

Actually, Obama has done several things that have annoyed progressives. He's overhyped the Social Security crisis, he's bad-mouthed the blogosphere, he's stiff-armed secularists, and he's campaigned with a homophobe. So, it's not like he isn't trying to appear moderate. Allen and Smith call his earlier positions 'extreme'.

The 12-page packet giving Obama’s more extreme 1996 views was prepared as part of his quest for the Illinois Senate’s 13th District on Chicago’s South Side.

I'm ready for a fight over whether or not these views are extreme. They're mainstream views among progressives, Canadians, and Europeans. Can you say that Huckabee's views are mainstream?



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"No candidacy of his avowed liberalism has succeeded in the United States in much more than a generation," said Republican strategist Kieran Mahoney, a national political adviser to former Sen. Bob Dole's 1996 presidential campaign.
We're supposed to take this person's opinion seriously...why, again?

Obama's views are mainstream.  Huckabee's are not.  The problem is the people that share Huckabee's insane opinions are so much louder that the delusional clamor drowns out the rational discourse others are having.

Tengo un sueño.
by ejmw (ewitham (at) umich (dot) edu) on Tue Dec 11th, 2007 at 12:53:29 PM EST
Shorter, paraphrased Huckabee
Huckabee acknowledged the prevailing scientific view then, and since, that the planet Earth revolved around the sun, but said that was not certain.

Well.......not exactly....... just yet.
But it is coming.  Soon.  Very soon.
Bet on it.

He was talking about AIDS transmission, but hey, when it comes to sciency kinda stuff we can't worry about facts-n-such in our 4000 year old world.

"Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity"

by MikeInOhio (miken45054@yahoo.com) on Tue Dec 11th, 2007 at 02:13:57 PM EST
If Obama's views knock him out, it won't be the "liberal" ones, but his attempts to short-circuit them with lame "outreach" to the fools and crazy people on the right. The trouble with the Dole hack's theory is that we haven't had an unabashed liberal candidate in a generation.

As to Huckabee, I have to disagree that insanity is a bar to the presidency. It didn't stop Bush (and no, that ain't just rhetoric). Or, for that matter, Reagan or Nixon. And I ain't so sure about Clinton either.

Bush is "the first President to admit to an impeachable offense." --Former Nixon counsel John Dean

by DaveW on Tue Dec 11th, 2007 at 02:19:40 PM EST
Yes, but take on the esteemed Paul Krugman and your stated positions, clearly progressive, mean nothing to progressive purists.  A five hundred pound hammer comes down on your head from the lefty blogosphere for daring to fight back on a very key issue for early primary voters, healthcare.
by RollaMO on Tue Dec 11th, 2007 at 02:21:55 PM EST


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